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« on: February 17, 2017, 03:53:43 AM »
So I have to make some changes really soon to my flatty if I'm gonna make the opener... Outside of my rigging I need to change,  I'm thinking about pulling the edelbrock 750's off my blower in favor of 2 600 double pumpers,  and setting them up for E85... I can't run a chiller with my setup.  My tunnel ram was frosty cold,  my blower and plenum are hot as fuck, iv got all the timing pulled out for pump gas and it been OK,  but I think cooling the intake charge with more tune ability from the holleys and maybe being able to put alil more lead to it might make it happier!!???  Your thoughts???  The thread is yours gentleman!!  I'm all ears..  👍👍

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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2017, 04:56:45 AM »
Why can't you run a chiller?
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2017, 05:03:26 AM »
Why can't you run a chiller?
My intake and plenum won't allow it,,,  it's a different setup,,  looks Bitchen,  but can't put a chiller on it...  Looks like a weird cross tunnel ram.. 

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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2017, 05:06:09 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2017, 05:09:31 AM »
Looks badass yo!👍

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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2017, 05:16:09 AM »
Looks badass yo!👍

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Ohhhh f#ckoff Mr Ford guy.....  That's the shit already on my yellow turd....  I'm looking for advise from people that know something!!!  Lmfao!!  😅😅😅😅👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2017, 05:16:58 AM »
Okay gotcha. You're going to battle heat no matter what without a chiller but you're on the right path if you're not going to run one.

The car guys would kill to have our ability to cool the charge like our boats are able to do with unlimited cooled raw water access.

I thought about E85 but it's hard to find at the river where my boat lives 99% of the time. I think the Terrible's and AM/PM in Parker used to carry it years ago but not anymore. I've stuck with a chiller and AvGas.
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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2017, 05:26:10 AM »
Okay gotcha. You're going to battle heat no matter what without a chiller but you're on the right path if you're not going to run one.

The car guys would kill to have our ability to cool the charge like our boats are able to do with unlimited cooled raw water access.

I thought about E85 but it's hard to find at the river where my boat lives 99% of the time. I think the Terrible's and AM/PM in Parker used to carry it years ago but not anymore. I've stuck with a chiller and AvGas.
I also play at big river 99% of the time,  but E85 is becoming available close to me so I can just jug my fuel out with me instead of getting hammered for Parker oil premium .which isn't cheap at all!!!

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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2017, 05:29:41 AM »
I also play at big river 99% of the time,  but E85 is becoming available close to me so I can just jug my fuel out with me instead of getting hammered for Parker oil premium .which isn't cheap at all!!!

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I'm in the Big River area as well. That's a very cool setup you got. I'll follow along as I'm interested to hear what you do and the results.
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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2017, 05:43:28 AM »
I'm in the Big River area as well. That's a very cool setup you got. I'll follow along as I'm interested to hear what you do and the results.
I'll keep you posted,  I just bought the 2nd 600 double pumper so I need to talk to the carb guy about his thoughts...  I really want to hear from the main players on here for their thoughts..  GT, FLUSHER, 609,PROPLESS, MASHONIT,, K034,,,, not a lot of talk about E85,n boats..  Just looking for feedback,  just like you.. Lol

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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2017, 05:50:03 AM »
I already know my main E85 PLAYER ON THIS FORUM.. Isn't gonna chime in,  even tho he runs it in everything he street races!!  Fucker!!  Lol

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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2017, 05:54:52 AM »
Ohhhh f#ckoff Mr Ford guy.....  That's the shit already on my yellow turd....  I'm looking for advise from people that know something!!!  Lmfao!!  😅😅😅😅👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

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Oh I agree, I know nothing. Doesn't mean your turd of an engine doesn't look good.........for a Chevy. Lol

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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2017, 06:03:01 AM »
I already know my main E85 PLAYER ON THIS FORUM.. Isn't gonna chime in,  even tho he runs it in everything he street races!!  Fucker!!  Lol

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my bro actually tried to talk me into setting up my engine for e85 when we were building it but in my little town it wasn't available so I ditched that plan

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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2017, 06:11:28 AM »
Oh I agree, I know nothing. Doesn't mean your turd of an engine doesn't look good.........for a Chevy. Lol

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Did you just give me a compliment??  Is all that rain up there getting to you brother?????  Lol. It's gonna start raining frogs at my house soon isn't it!!!!!  😅😅😅😅

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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2017, 06:12:53 AM »
my bro actually tried to talk me into setting up my engine for e85 when we were building it but in my little town it wasn't available so I ditched that plan

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Ya,,  availability has kept me away as well...

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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2017, 06:26:27 AM »
Did you just give me a compliment??  Is all that rain up there getting to you brother?????  Lol. It's gonna start raining frogs at my house soon isn't it!!!!!  😅😅😅😅

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Weeeeelllllll, it was a back handed compliment, but sure if it makes you happy. Lol
It is going to rain sparkles, butterflies and unicorns at your house.

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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2017, 06:35:29 AM »
Weeeeelllllll, it was a back handed compliment, but sure if it makes you happy. Lol
It is going to rain sparkles, butterflies and unicorns at your house.

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Damn!!  I have selectfull  reading disorder,,  all I saw was you know nothing and my Chevy was cool!! Gets me thru the day tho!!!  😅🔫

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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2017, 06:39:19 AM »
Boards have been pretty dead lately. Probably winter slumber, at least this subject will bring cool convo when the smart dudes show up.

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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2017, 06:43:10 AM »
Have you looked into water/methanol injection? It will cool the charge significantly for you.

I'm running mine right in front of the carb, but this is after induction on my set up. I run 1/3 F & L racing methanol, 2/3 distilled water. I've experimented with more methanol, but going beyond 1/3 requires fuel mixture jetting adjustments. I have a very efficient intercooler. I picked up 100 rpm on the top end with a $450 system.

Call Rodney at Prometh, formerly Alcohol Injection Systems. I worked on his phone system for him and traded for my methanol injection system. He's a good guy who will give you accurate and honest advice. He's not about the sale, it's about the solution. He runs his business like I've run mine for the last 20 years, straight forward honest advice. He's in Oxnard.

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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2017, 06:43:23 AM »
Fuck!!  I guess I should have just posted on smack talk..  Everyone would have chimed in to bash the vdrive!!  Lmfao!!! 

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« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2017, 06:48:51 AM »
That last comment was for fordlover not j2..

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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2017, 06:55:37 AM »
That last comment was for fordlover not j2..

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Dude, I've read enough of your late night posts to know who you're bitchen about  O0 You been to bed yet? Besides I got a Chevy  :thumbup:

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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2017, 07:02:55 AM »
Have you looked into water/methanol injection? It will cool the charge significantly for you.

I'm running mine right in front of the carb, but this is after induction on my set up. I run 1/3 F & L racing methanol, 2/3 distilled water. I've experimented with more methanol, but going beyond 1/3 requires fuel mixture jetting adjustments. I have a very efficient intercooler. I picked up 100 rpm on the top end with a $450 system.

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That would be awesome if you could spray it out of a nitrous style plate .. I do keep forgetting my intake has plugged injector bungs tho.....  Hmmm maybe another option.....  Thanks j2

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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2017, 07:33:13 AM »
That would be awesome if you could spray it out of a nitrous style plate .. I do keep forgetting my intake has plugged injector bungs tho.....  Hmmm maybe another option.....  Thanks j2

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Just curious,  is this a normal issue with blowers or just with your particular setup?

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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2017, 07:54:48 AM »
Just curious,  is this a normal issue with blowers or just with your particular setup?

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Yes running induction creates lots of heat. If you can't run an intercooler then a lot of people run the water/meth injection to simply cool the charge increasing horsepower.

 


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