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Cj rules and NJ rules
« on: August 04, 2008, 10:12:33 PM »
Can some one cut and paste or provide a link to ALL of the Complet rules for Compjet and Nostalge Jet?
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Re: Cj rules and NJ rules
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2008, 05:51:54 AM »
APBA Competition Jet Rules


1)   Required:  Minimum of 4 Boats.
2)   All Competition Jet Drivers will qualify according to Rule 11 of the APBA Inboard Racing rules.
3)   Any equipment or modification to hull, engine or jet not specifically prohibited will be allowed.
4)   Any type of design hull will be allowed as long as it is safely constructed.  Minimum length overall will be sixteen (16) feet.  Maximum length overall including pump and extension shall be twenty-four (24) feet.  Minimum beam overall shall be six (6) feet.
5)   Boats to be in safety compliance, per APBA specified rules.  Safety inspections are mandatory and boats must be in mechanically sound condition and pass required APBA safety rules.
6)   Power will be supplied by one (1) U.S. built automotive or light truck engine with a maximum displacement of 515 cu. in.  Cylinder block is limited to cast iron, aluminum cylinder heads are optional.
a.   Engine must be naturally aspirated.
b.   Engine must be mounted forward of the jet drive.
c.   Fuel will be restricted to gasoline of the type regularly available for automotive, marine or aviation use.  The use of any other gases, liquids or any fuel additive substance by any means of induction into the engine is prohibited.
d.   Throttle cables to have return springs and safety clamps or ties to ensure throttle operation at all times.
e.   The driver and/or crew must be seated forward of the engine.
7)   Jet drives - intake adapter, impeller housing, impeller, shaft and bowl must be the product of an approved manufacturer and be available as specified by the CJ Technical Committee.  Other parts may be of any design or manufacturer.
a.   Single jet drive only.
b.   Impeller and impeller housing to be mounted above the keel.
c.   No Jet-a-Way or drive line guard required.
d.   Must be equipped with a turning rudder that extends at least four (4) inches below the lowest point of the jet nozzle and have a minimum surface area of sixteen (16) inches.
e.   Jet-O-Vater or Place Diverter adjustable nozzles may be used.  A Diverter stop is required and the rooster tail is not to exceed 4'-5' off the water, this also includes fixed nozzle boats.  Diverter shall remain in the full down position at all times in or near pit area or launch ramps until safely on the racecourse.  Failure to do so will result in a one (1)-lap penalty.
f.   A through bolted loader must be securely attached using four (4) - 5/16" or larger black oxide grade 8 bolts.
8)   Kill Switch are required.  All boats will be equipped with a positive safety switch that will break the ignition circuit in the event the driver is thrown from the boat and the switch will be properly attached to the driver prior to the starting of the engine.  A break or the release must not be more than ten (10) pounds pull maximum.
9)   All Drivers and Riders must be members of APBA and provide proof of a certified FAA or DOT physical.
10)   Certified Life Jackets and Helmets must be worn.  Helmet and Jacket including Helmet Restraints must meet APBA rule, (ii) For participants in open and unrestrained cockpits, the upper fifty percent (50%) of the helmet must be neon, florescent, red, orange, yellow, or international orange, and meet current certification.
11)   All drivers must wear long durable pants and a long sleeve shirt.  It is recommended that drivers wear a full length, one or two-piece, 1 layered driving suit.
12)    All safety equipment MUST be worn properly per manufacturers specified instructions.  Failure to do so will be disqualification for that heat race.
13)   All boats and trailers will be numbered as per APBA specified rules and start with CJ.
14)   Infraction/Penalties, Entry fees, and local membership fee's will be established by the affiliated race site club.
15)   Class will be governed by APBA Inboard Racing rules as applicable.
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Re: Cj rules and NJ rules
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2008, 05:53:11 AM »
APBA & SCSC Revised Nostalgia Jet General Rules 

1) Required:  Minimum of 4 - 5 Boats.

2) Maximum length of 21'.  All boat hulls are to be twenty (20) years or older, or a similar replica of a hull twenty (20) years or older.

3) Entry Fee:  $100/average per day, rates may vary.

4) Plus APBA Membership fee (can apply for Single Event rather than full membership). All drivers and riders must be listed as APBA Inboard Endurance members.  All drivers and riders must provide proof of a certified FAA or DOT physical.

5) Plus SCSC membership fee - $20/year, or affiliated race site club membership.

6) Certified Life Jacket & Helmet, Per APBA specified rules.  Helmet and jacket must meet APBA rule, (ii) For participants in open and unrestrained cockpits, the upper fifty percent (50%) of the helmet must be neon, florescent, red, orange, yellow, or international orange, and meet current certification.  All rookie drivers must place a 1? wide ?X? on the back of helmet for a period on one calendar year.  All safety equipment MUST be worn properly per manufacturers specified instructions.  Failure to do so will be disqualification for that heat race.

7) Boats to be in safety compliance, Per APBA specified rules.  Safety inspections are mandatory and boats must be in mechanically sound condition and pass required APBA safety rules.

8) No Jet-A-way required.

9) MANDATORY GPS - ALL competitors must have a hand held GPS to compete.  GPS must have max speed sensor and recording.  All GPS units will be checked prior to and after each race.  If the GPS unit is inoperative or does not register or registers a skewed reading, that driver will be penalized one lap.  Second offense will result in disqualification from racing at that weekend.  A Driver will not be scored and lose any points earned if found to have raced without a GPS on board.

10) Maximum speed 80.9 MPH.  Speed will be monitored and recorded by a hand held GPS unit with recall.  Any competitor who exceeds 80.9 ? 84.9 mph will be penalized one lap.  Any competitor who exceeds 84.9 mph will be disqualified for the weekend.  Any competitor who is penalized for two weekends will no long be eligible to compete in any future Nostalgia class(es) races.

11) Kill switch is required and lanyard should be attached to driver at all times.

12) Neck collar.

13) Helmet restraints.

14) All drivers must wear long durable pants and a long sleeve shirt.  It is recommended that drivers wear a full length, one or two-piece, 1 layer driving suit.
 
15) Any engine (ci), as many carbs as wanted, injection, super chargers, blowers, turbos, anything including Turbine engines.  Any fuel, gas, diesel, etc may be used.

16) Turning Rudder - must be equipped with a rudder that extends at least 4 inches below the lowest point of the jet nozzle housing and has a minimum surface area of 16 inches.

17) Jet-O-vator or Place Diverter adjustable nozzles may be used.  A Diverter stop is required and the rooster tail is not to exceed 4?-5? off the water, this also includes fixed nozzle boats.  Diverter shall remain in the full down position at all times when operating in or near pit row.  Upon departure from pit row, the nozzle shall remain in the full down position until safely on the racecourse.

18) Through bolted loader must be securely attached using 4 - 5/16" black oxide bolts.

19) The numbers must be starting with cj, and per APBA specified rules.

20) The race heat will consist of a minimum of 2 warm-up laps and 4 race laps.

21) Infraction/Penalty for buoy:  Hitting a buoy results in one lap penalty.  Killing or damaging a buoy results in one lap penalty and $200 fine.

22) Have fun and be safe.  Safety is of paramount concern.  All rulings by race officials for the Nostalgia Classes will be done to promote and maintain safety.  All competitors will operate under that premise and there will be NO compromise for safety.

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Re: Cj rules and NJ rules
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2008, 04:39:17 PM »
Can you run FI or dual carbs. 

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Re: Cj rules and NJ rules
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2008, 04:50:19 PM »
Can you run FI or dual carbs. 

I don't see it specifically ruled out...and Harold Bruce was running dual carbs in Long Beach.
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Re: Cj rules and NJ rules
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2008, 05:20:20 PM »
what happend to the boat running the external rudder in Idaho. Was it  legal?

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Re: Cj rules and NJ rules
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2008, 05:47:06 PM »
what happend to the boat running the external rudder in Idaho. Was it  legal?

at this time it has been determined as legal.
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Re: Cj rules and NJ rules
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2008, 07:27:20 PM »
Can you run FI or dual carbs. 
rule 6a engine must be naturally asperated

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Re: Cj rules and NJ rules
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2008, 07:30:33 PM »
rule 6a engine must be naturally asperated

Naturally  asperated; No turbochargers, superchargers, or blowers. EFI is OK, Multiple carbs OK.
If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

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Re: Cj rules and NJ rules
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2008, 07:51:22 PM »
Naturally  asperated; No turbochargers, superchargers, or blowers. EFI is OK, Multiple carbs OK.
yeah i see what you see ;) but if memory serves me no efi. but i could be wayyyyy wrong on that :-\

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Re: Cj rules and NJ rules
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2008, 07:53:54 PM »
No horsepower advantages with EFI  :-\

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Re: Cj rules and NJ rules
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2008, 07:54:40 PM »
I'm wondering how come nobody runs FI in the class if allowed.   I wasent in long beach, did the external rudder boat run again in same config or did it go back conventional. Im mostly a v driver but have owned and own a jet now, it sure is squirley in the rear at speed. ;D

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Re: Cj rules and NJ rules
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2008, 07:56:50 PM »
No EFI, MFI and yes their is HP advantages in both over carbs.  Racing EFI is awsome to say the least.

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Re: Cj rules and NJ rules
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2008, 08:34:12 PM »
I'm wondering how come nobody runs FI in the class if allowed.   I wasent in long beach, did the external rudder boat run again in same config or did it go back conventional. Im mostly a v driver but have owned and own a jet now, it sure is squirley in the rear at speed. ;D

yes, he ran the same setup in long beach as he did in burley.

and I assume FI is legal as terry was trying to talk brock into putting it on the 222 at one point
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Re: Cj rules and NJ rules
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2008, 10:43:31 PM »
No EFI, MFI and yes their is HP advantages in both over carbs.  Racing EFI is awsome to say the least.

I don't know about the "horsepower advantage" thing, fuel/air mix is fuel/air mix, I would agree that throttle response would be better, also adjustability would be enhanced, but if the setup is correct, not sure it make a noticable pony improvement, I would take a properly tuned carb setup over an electronic fuel injection setup just based on simplicity and reliability issues alone, injection is bitchen, but with all things being equal I still like the carbs. (mainly because of the simplicity) I'm all about keeping things simple when racing.
If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

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Re: Cj rules and NJ rules
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2008, 01:46:53 PM »
Which is it - Collar or helmet restraint, or both? My boat is from NWSRA and has no letters. Am I to place a CJ on the boat prior to running?

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Re: Cj rules and NJ rules
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2008, 01:49:24 PM »
IMO, the only benefit I can see to FI or EFI is ease of tuning.... no jet changes, power valves, floats.... etc. But I have seen horsepower from switching from EFI to carb, but that is in atv land....

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Re: Cj rules and NJ rules
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2008, 01:52:52 PM »
Which is it - Collar or helmet restraint, or both? My boat is from NWSRA and has no letters. Am I to place a CJ on the boat prior to running?
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I dont see CJ being required.....it could be, but i dont think it would be enforced.

the requirements are for either a collar or restraint....you can wear both. i prefer the restraint over the color.
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