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« Reply #50 on: January 11, 2018, 10:42:57 AM »
Here's how things went..

At the races in March 2017, 702 was caught pulling away from the class then sand bagging just enough to stay out in front. Instead of singling him out, there was a collective agreement to P&G the top 3 boats Sunday morning. When Billy was approached by Shirl Sunday morning he was very defensive. Billy said "You're not touching my motor - fuck your class and shove it up your ass". Shirl responded with that he was not allowed to participate in CompJet until he submitted to the test. (I was right there and heard all of the above with my own ears). He then went on to race in GPS100 (he broke out and was asked to leave that class) then the GN class for the final on Sunday.

At the Long Beach race in 2017, 702 boat showed up. Shirl was not able to make it to the venue Saturday to enforce his ruling on CJ702. He raced in the class on Saturday without submitting to a P&G test as required by the class rep. I addressed this with Ross and his response was that our class rep has no say so weather a boat can or can not participate in our class. I explained to him the situation and he didn't care. Because the Long Beach race was a national, the 702 boat was required to be tested at the end of the day Sunday. I stood there and watched - there was many inconclusive tests. I could see the person performing the tests getting impatient. They concluded its was a 470-something cubic inch motor leaving many of us scratching our heads. The person performing the tests basically said 'sorry, I got more important classes to go test'.

So let me ask this and let it sink in: How does a 470 cubic naturally aspirated motor in a 21' boat break out in a GPS100 class?

There is some speculation that he showed up to long beach with a smaller motor since he knew he would have to face a test.

So there was 3 boats on the roster to show up to Thanksgiving 2017. When it was relayed to the class that the 702 boat would not be showing up, the class was cancelled. 2 of the boats still wanted to come race and asked if they could run in the GPS100 class. Ross said no. The 702 boat shows up anyways and is allowed to run in the GPS100 class, where he sank another boat with his big wake. The class rep of the GPS100 class then banned him from the class.

So why was Shirl's ruling overruled, but the rep from GPS100 was allowed to ban him?


There is many unanswered questions above. I am done arguing about it - I just want some consistencies. This class is a joke and will die if this boat continues to ridicule the class and make it a laughing stock.

From what I gather, people in the class don't want to do anything about this hull. I have yet to hear anyone other than myself really speak up about it. Terry is over it and said hes done racing, same with Shirl - he sold his boat. I am done until that hull is not legal in the class.

What is it going to take for Ross to acknowledge that the class is in shambles because of this boat? All Ross cares about is boat count. He thinks we need the 702 boat but it is the complete opposite.

For the record - I am not trying to ban Billy. He may be a jerk, but I agree that we need racers. I think the hull should not be legal. The hull is not in the spirit of the class. If Billy made a legit compjet boat, I would be all about it. His Catalina ski race boat has no place in our class.
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« Reply #51 on: January 11, 2018, 11:40:47 AM »
Ok, thanks Brad for the info. Are there any other associations hosting a comp jet type class currently? I guess it's a wait and see what happens type situation currently. Sorry to hear it's still bit of a challenged situation. Are the CJ'S not allowed to run GPS100 at all or was that just a single event situation where Ross denied the 2 boats entry? That call seems confusing to me. I was under the impression you could run just about anything in GPS 100 so long as you didn't break out of the speed limit. (note: I have not read the rule book)
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« Reply #52 on: January 11, 2018, 11:46:56 AM »
Ok, thanks Brad for the info. Are there any other associations hosting a comp jet type class currently? I guess it's a wait and see what happens type situation currently. Sorry to hear it's still bit of a challenged situation. Are the CJ'S not allowed to run GPS100 at all or was that just a single event situation where Ross denied the 2 boats entry? That call seems confusing to me. I was under the impression you could run just about anything in GPS 100 so long as you didn't break out of the speed limit. (note: I have not read the rule book)

SCSC is the only org that recognizes CompJet Circle Boat Racing.

I dont know what the rules are for GPS100. I assume the same, but also, I have not read the rule book. I am not sure why the 2 boats were denied and 702 was allowed - thats a question for Ross.
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« Reply #53 on: January 11, 2018, 12:05:31 PM »
Thanks again for the info. Brad. I hope this all gets resolved soon and the CJ class can resume its flourishing and highly competitive   and entertaining status in circle boat racing. I'm sure, like you, all the other racers with boats sitting idle for now are really frustrated and looking for an equitable solution to this situation so you can resume racing and having fun. It seems a class rule update to limit hull configurations and maybe even lengths is in order to keep the playing field more safe and level so to speak. They have them in the flat bottom classes, seems this is essentially no different. 
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