OK now you and Dave want to run your wake barges, You boys are gonna splash us little guys right off the course   As for your question Proppy I dont know just getting into it, Skip seems to know the ins and outs tho

As I understand it 21' hull length, does not include the pump.

I believe in C/J it was changed to 24' overall including the pump.

Huh...

well, there ya go. you can run a 30' jetboat 

i think its safe to say that 23' and under is acceptable for the jets since its the norm for the NE and NF classes.

Ok, You have a good point there, but me being a rookie, and having the tuna barges out there too, well, hmmmmmm

just ignore this rule. its there to keep the word 'nostalgia' true. The word "replica" makes it so vague that you can run any year boat.

Take the CJ53 boat for example. its a one-off D'Cucci. The hull was actually made for an I/O class they race on the east coast, but they laid this one up for a jet. Toby and the Cucci's ran it in NJ for a few years, no questions asked.

Good point Tony! and kinda what I was thinking anyway when it peaked my interest. Over the summer I'm QUITE sure i've navigated the Moo over rougher stuff at Saguaro and Bartlett Lakes here in PHX at speed than I'd ever see in race conditions (Figured that chit out real quick on those lakes, thanks to you guys, Brad, Omar and GT in particular!) If in doubt, check with the Eastsiders on PB, Some of them have witnessed some my shenannigans, (The worst in a 5, at speed , probably 60-65 at the time, in full roost!, on a dare, near dusk, no boats at the dock.)

Tuna boats, wake barges, BRING'EM! I say! Driving is what it's all about. (I say that, and while I figured Moo out for the most part, this Streaker REALLY perplexes me! New cables and a PD, then we'll see where we're at, but drives totally different).

Ray

This whole thing makes me want to bite the bullet and ressurrect my old Bieser and race the damn thing! It IS, or was, more than 20 years old, but would be something short of 21' and, well, maybe a flat bottom, flex bottom, sumpin like that, lol.

NJ is on the sanction and schedule for Havasu Landing in January, I won't be ready until Ming in March

Hey what happenend to the Puddingstone race, I didnt see it on the list

a bit confusing that one set of rules says yes and the one on this thread doesnt, and if it is needed will the one you have Brad be legal

Dammit Skip, I wanted to see how many posts we could get out of him talking to himself....Pretty funny.

GT

Mark-

Build your boat according to this set of rules and I can assure you that you'll be fine.

APBA & SCSC Revised Nostalgia Jet General Rules 

1) Required:  Minimum of 4 - 5 Boats.

2) Maximum length of 21'.  All boat hulls are to be twenty (20) years or older, or a similar replica of a hull twenty (20) years or older.

3) Entry Fee:  $100/average per day, rates may vary.

4) Plus APBA Membership fee (can apply for Single Event rather than full membership). All drivers and riders must be listed as APBA Inboard Endurance members.  All drivers and riders must provide proof of a certified FAA or DOT physical.

5) Plus SCSC membership fee - $20/year, or affiliated race site club membership.

6) Certified Life Jacket & Helmet, Per APBA specified rules.  Helmet and jacket must meet APBA rule, (ii) For participants in open and unrestrained cockpits, the upper fifty percent (50%) of the helmet must be neon, florescent, red, orange, yellow, or international orange, and meet current certification.  All rookie drivers must place a 1? wide ?X? on the back of helmet for a period on one calendar year.  All safety equipment MUST be worn properly per manufacturers specified instructions.  Failure to do so will be disqualification for that heat race.

7) Boats to be in safety compliance, Per APBA specified rules.  Safety inspections are mandatory and boats must be in mechanically sound condition and pass required APBA safety rules.

 No Jet-A-way required.

9) MANDATORY GPS - ALL competitors must have a hand held GPS to compete.  GPS must have max speed sensor and recording.  All GPS units will be checked prior to and after each race.  If the GPS unit is inoperative or does not register or registers a skewed reading, that driver will be penalized one lap.  Second offense will result in disqualification from racing at that weekend.  A Driver will not be scored and lose any points earned if found to have raced without a GPS on board.

10) Maximum speed 80.9 MPH.  Speed will be monitored and recorded by a hand held GPS unit with recall.  Any competitor who exceeds 80.9 ? 84.9 mph will be penalized one lap.  Any competitor who exceeds 84.9 mph will be disqualified for the weekend.  Any competitor who is penalized for two weekends will no long be eligible to compete in any future Nostalgia class(es) races.

11) Kill switch is required and lanyard should be attached to driver at all times.

12) Neck collar.

13) Helmet restraints.

14) All drivers must wear long durable pants and a long sleeve shirt.  It is recommended that drivers wear a full length, one or two-piece, 1 layer driving suit.
 
15) Any engine (ci), as many carbs as wanted, injection, super chargers, blowers, turbos, anything including Turbine engines.  Any fuel, gas, diesel, etc may be used.

16) Turning Rudder - must be equipped with a rudder that extends at least 4 inches below the lowest point of the jet nozzle housing and has a minimum surface area of 16 inches.

17) Jet-O-vator or Place Diverter adjustable nozzles may be used.  A Diverter stop is required and the rooster tail is not to exceed 4?-5? off the water, this also includes fixed nozzle boats.  Diverter shall remain in the full down position at all times when operating in or near pit row.  Upon departure from pit row, the nozzle shall remain in the full down position until safely on the racecourse.

18) Through bolted loader must be securely attached using 4 - 5/16" black oxide bolts.

19) The numbers must be starting with cj, and per APBA specified rules.

20) The race heat will consist of a minimum of 2 warm-up laps and 4 race laps.

21) Infraction/Penalty for buoy:  Hitting a buoy results in one lap penalty.  Killing or damaging a buoy results in one lap penalty and $200 fine.

22) Have fun and be safe.  Safety is of paramount concern.  All rulings by race officials for the Nostalgia Classes will be done to promote and maintain safety.  All competitors will operate under that premise and there will be NO compromise for safety.

  Why funny   Wasn't talking to myself, was asking questions, if I was talking to myself I would have answered, and then it would have been funny