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Ralph Brunt

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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #650 on: December 19, 2009, 08:30:49 AM »
OK,.it may be the only one in existence and you may wonder why
ok I'll bite why you? and how do you come to know so much about the southwind brand?
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #651 on: December 19, 2009, 08:37:14 AM »
I will expand on the history.......I have to appologize about the pics to follow, they are pre-digital and scans of pics. The one thing I like is that they look fast, just sitting there.....



And the other part is that, at one time, were the "Worlds Fastest Jet Boats".


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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #652 on: December 19, 2009, 10:09:06 AM »
ok I'll bite why you? and how do you come to know so much about the southwind brand?

If someone knows & has already posted it, I give the short version......
It seems from reading all the posts on here that most of you have just discovered these Tunnels. I gave a hint on my first posts about the Berkley Advertisement. It's the name of the driver of the World Record. It's the history of how they came to be sold and how they progressed till they kind of went away. Also why others copied that bottom. And also a little twist on the bottom that, I'm sure no one knows, and it has to do with one of the boats on that poster.....
This one..



I got to ride in this boat. Talk about an E ticket! It was a Tunnel, but it had modifications, the only one Southwind built! I was at Buena Vista one day and this boat pulled in. I was wiping down mine and he came over to me......we chatted for awhile and the rest is history...
I'll try to explaine the mods. The biggest one was the jet "placement".
When I walked up to it, the first thing I saw was that the jet extension had been cut off and the jet was flush with the back of the hull. When I asked about the change, he told me because the cav plates were fixed, they wanted to get the nose higher in the air in order to get more speed, less friction.  (sidebar...I have seen, & have a pic somewhere, of a Tunnel with footpetal, v-drive type ajustable cav plate)...The other mod was ????. I may have to draw this to explaine it. There is a tunnel on each side of the jet. On the outside & bottom edge of the tunnel, they had incorperated a 1" x 1" piece about 2' long, looked like a C, to help channel the water & keep the rear of the boat glued to the water. It worked, an E ticket ride...





 
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #653 on: December 19, 2009, 10:28:41 AM »
ok I'll bite why you? and how do you come to know so much about the southwind brand?

I have been around friends who had boats for about 6yrs when I went to Valley Boats here in town. In the window was a Tunnel, no engine. I inquired about it.....At the time, comparable boats like Sanger, etc, were about $4000. These had a price tag of $8200. All custom made, color, coler patterns, engine choice. I bought new, the 16th tunnel made for the public. I ordered a 1978 tunnel @ the end of 1977.
The history of this boat is a good story.......

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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #654 on: December 19, 2009, 11:25:14 AM »
There is one other thing about these boats that is unique, and anyone who has driven one knows about. I learned the hard way and in a state of panic. On all other jet boats, when you go to stop, you have to feather the throttle. This boat you don't. You can go full blast and turn off the key. It will stay steady, raise the front of the boat up, and then flatten out.......The cav plates, the bottom of the boat, and the top deck redirect the wake behind over the jet and off the side. Great design of the top deck.....



That "hump" on the back, right behind the splash shield...I found this out the second week I drove the boat. Full throttle and it died! All I could think was that I was in trouble. But what happened was what I said before. The water just hit the back and went off the boat. Not a drop inside. I sat there and said "that was cool."
One of the safest boats out there..........although I have sank it 4 times, and was thrown out of it @ 55mph once.
This is fun.......
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #655 on: December 19, 2009, 01:41:46 PM »
donethat=yes i do own a swtd-1981 and 2 18fters

need to talk to futs on performance boats-his family started southwind boats
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Just Electric

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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #656 on: December 19, 2009, 03:26:06 PM »
 too lazy but here is the thread http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=8304.0
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #657 on: December 19, 2009, 04:28:49 PM »
donethat=yes i do own a swtd-1981 and 2 18fters

need to talk to futs on performance boats-his family started southwind boats

JS...nice looking boat. I read thru your resto project, it turned out very nice!
When I bought my boat, the dealer was to busy to pick it up so he offered me a boat cover if I went and picked it up. So I drove down to Lemon St in the city of Orange. I met the owner at the time, but I am over 30 so my memory is shakie, but I will never forget the experience. That was 32yrs ago. The smell of fiberglass was overwhelming, and when he took me to the assembly building, there were 12 boats in various stages of construction, 5 of them were Tunnels, which, by the way, never saw 1 of them anywhere on the water. The smell of fiberglass was so strong you could get high 20' away, and we were chit chatting about it when he said this....."These are a great bunch of guys, but they don't take lunch, and they don't want to go home at nite.....I think they are getting way to high on the fumes." Pretty good laff over that one.

I would like to talk to futs about these boats, would be very interesting....

Again JS, nice looking boat....
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #658 on: December 24, 2009, 08:50:57 PM »
This is my first post and it's for you Southwind Tunnel fans. Been lurking around for awhile and thought I'd share some stuff.......
Found this in a box in my attic....an advertisement from Berkley Jets..
(Attachment Link)

Here is 1/2 of the backside of this poster....

(Attachment Link)

from the late 70's..

Well, no one has spoken up with what happened to the Southwind Tunnel when they went out of business...
The advertisement poster was a hint. The Place brothers bought the Hull mold, cut the jet extension off, re-did the deck, and the Placecraft was born. And according to my memory, went back out and took the world record again. Those guys loved that bottom and trusted it.
For JustSquirtin, (and anyone else) I'll copy that poster and send you one, it's something to hang in the garage. I got that poster when I bought mine and just put it in a box.
Also, for people that are looking to buy bare hulls, I sold mine in 2004 for $2800, turn key...........
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #659 on: January 11, 2010, 12:00:14 PM »
Actually it wasn't the Place Brothers and they built their own mold.  Frank Place didn't have anything to do with Placecraft, just Bill Place.  They started with a Southwind, but they did more than chop off the pod and change the deck.  They also dropped the sponsons which was being done on any serious go fast Southwind.  Without the dropped sponsons, it teetered side to side during a pass.  We we looking for a hull to replace our Hondo Pantera so Southwind hooked us up with one of the old Going Places tunnels-Bill had already started Placecraft.  Bill  later gave us a Placecraft.  You can see the sponson additions on the pic of the Southwind. 
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #660 on: January 11, 2010, 03:13:26 PM »
OK...seems we've got the tunnel experts in here now....so maybe someone can tell me what the hell I have here:



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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #661 on: January 11, 2010, 07:50:30 PM »
Done That , great thread, great info and insight love the history , maybe you or splatter know more on the Mach1 contrasted to the SWTD ? Tim (Place) talked about a small rift with Frank and Bill and from what I recall they (Place) ran a Mach for a while back in the day Tim sent me this pic when I told him I had one ,bottoms are similar ? mine has a drop keel and sponsons are down 1.5 in any info is appreciated Tom
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #662 on: January 12, 2010, 05:35:48 AM »
this one will be fun when its done ;D
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #663 on: January 12, 2010, 06:29:57 AM »
Done That , great thread, great info and insight love the history , maybe you or splatter know more on the Mach1 contrasted to the SWTD ? Tim (Place) talked about a small rift with Frank and Bill and from what I recall they (Place) ran a Mach for a while back in the day Tim sent me this pic when I told him I had one ,bottoms are similar ? mine has a drop keel and sponsons are down 1.5 in any info is appreciated Tom


Man, that was a long time ago.  I know that Bill and Frank had a falling out.  I think they were together in the Southwest Paving Spcl. days, but split when Bill ran Going Places.  Frank did run a Mach1 and I think the bottom was the same as a Mod'ed up Southwind or original Placecraft.  I'm not sure though.  Those days were cool in BFJ because there were so many different designs-good and bad. 
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #664 on: January 12, 2010, 06:45:36 AM »
Here's a pic of the same Soutwind we ran when Bill had it.  You can see the sponson difference.

Also a pic of Rated X running a Sleekcraft and our Hondo.
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #665 on: January 12, 2010, 06:47:26 AM »
Oops. didn't include the pics.
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #666 on: January 13, 2010, 01:45:01 PM »
OK...seems we've got the tunnel experts in here now....so maybe someone can tell me what the hell I have here:





I don't know how many of these they built, but Kurtis made a flatbottom jet back in the mid 70's.  I'm sure some else did too, but this is the only one I remember.
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #667 on: January 13, 2010, 01:49:37 PM »
Here's a couple for the hydro guys.....Don Yates in Rated X and Dean Willis in Royal Flush.  Royal Flush was fast, but scary on shut down.  Rated X was just scary.
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #668 on: January 18, 2010, 10:40:43 AM »
Im thinking the set up on my boat is pretty good. Doesn't do anything funky.
Now I just need a grip of Horse Power for it!!
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Just Electric

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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #669 on: January 18, 2010, 12:49:08 PM »
better hurry up brian is one step ahead of you and spring is around the corner.overtime anyone ;D
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #670 on: January 18, 2010, 01:17:52 PM »
Im thinking the set up on my boat is pretty good. Doesn't do anything funky.
Now I just need a grip of Horse Power for it!!


quit burning trees, and buy some boat parts!

sorry nate
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If im not posting..I'm pooping!

just squirtin

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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #671 on: January 18, 2010, 01:44:00 PM »
done that=the swtd molds are somewhere up in gold run north of auburn=trying to find out about it

any thing happening with the poster/flyer reprints that i inquired about
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #672 on: January 18, 2010, 02:34:52 PM »
quit burning trees, and buy some boat parts!

sorry nate

C'mon bro, you dont need to apoligize to me.... I aint gonna hide from the truth! lol
I've been told that this year 2010 wont be as good a year for us Local 12 Operators... so Im not doing any spending untill work picks back up.
As the boat sits right now, its about 2 years out from where I want it.
As far as this season goes... just gonna throw in some higher compression pistons (8.1 now) and call it a day!
I just want to be able to attend these gathering with you guys this summer since I got such a late start on it last year. ;D
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #673 on: January 18, 2010, 04:14:40 PM »
done that=address 120 west Q street=rio linda, ca.95673==so you can mail me a poster
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Re: Lets See Your Rides
« Reply #674 on: January 19, 2010, 05:29:04 PM »
OK...seems we've got the tunnel experts in here now....so maybe someone can tell me what the hell I have here:





Im really digging on this boat anyone have some more info on it?? 
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