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« on: September 20, 2008, 08:31:12 PM »
 maybe some pics would help me on it.don't have any thing to go by first time owning a ford :banghead:



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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2008, 08:58:50 PM »
Found this on another site...

The
firing order of a ford 460 engine is 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8.1-2-3-4 is on the
passenger side and 5-6-7-8 is on the driverís side. The distributor
rotates counter clockwise. According to my knowledge the ford big block
series is offering the same order regardless of year or displacement.


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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2008, 09:00:46 PM »
Found this on another site...

The
firing order of a ford 460 engine is 1-5-4-2-6-3-7-8.1-2-3-4 is on the
passenger side and 5-6-7-8 is on the driverís side. The distributor
rotates counter clockwise. According to my knowledge the ford big block
series is offering the same order regardless of year or displacement.


Hope it helps.
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2008, 09:05:35 PM »
in case its not a 460 ???

Here is the plug layout and the firing order for a 351...302
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2008, 09:09:30 PM »
in case its not a 460 ???

Here is the plug layout and the firing order for a 351...302 (Attachment Link)
send one like that of a 460 thats what i'm looking for

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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2008, 09:10:03 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2008, 09:11:22 PM »
maybe some pics would help me on it.don't have any thing to go by first time owning a ford :banghead:
hey he never called back, sorry about that brian.

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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2008, 09:12:41 PM »
send one like that of a 460 thats what i'm looking for

Looks the same.. ;D
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« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2008, 09:19:18 PM »
Looks the same.. ;D
looks the same but not   :banghead::thanks guys getting closer

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« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2008, 09:21:31 PM »
Here is what you need

http://boxwrench.net/specs/ford_429-514.htm

that looks like it mite work thanks Chaz first time ford guy :screwy:

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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2008, 09:23:08 PM »
hey he never called back, sorry about that brian.

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no problem i'll get it it will be running in the morning :)

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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2008, 07:38:19 AM »
Looks the same.. ;D

Except the firing order. ;)
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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2008, 08:00:28 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2008, 09:33:47 AM »
Believe it or not, the Ford 460 firing order is exactly the same as for a Chevy...but the cylinders are numbered differently and the dizzy spins counterclockwise. But the actual cylinders are firing in the same physical order as a Chevy.
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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2008, 11:36:09 AM »
460 = 15426378

chebby = 18436572

i dont see this 


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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2008, 11:51:19 AM »
460 = 15426378

chebby = 18436572

i dont see this 

Because you not smokin what he is... ???

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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2008, 11:53:46 AM »
i even tried looking at the cylinders and corresponding the firing order to each motor, and that still didnt make sense...i tried giving him the benefit of the doubt...i got too much time on my hands right now


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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2008, 11:59:37 AM »
well mopar appears to have the same deal as gm going on with their cylinders and firing order...the only difference is the dizzy turns the opposite way


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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2008, 12:55:08 PM »
The only thing that makes the Ford firing order different from a Chevy is the actual cylinder numbers. Try not to focus on the numbers themselves, but rather the order in which each cylinder fires. You will see that it's the same order pattern between the two.

Here are the cylinder diagrams for Chevy and Ford. Follow the firing order on each one and you'll see what I'm talking about.



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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2008, 01:13:38 PM »
still doesnt seem right


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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2008, 01:33:40 PM »
If you start with cylinder 5 on the ford, they are the same, fords #1 is where the chuvvits #2 is, Mopar uses the same order.....
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« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2008, 02:39:44 PM »
If you start with cylinder 5 on the ford, they are the same, fords #1 is where the chuvvits #2 is, Mopar uses the same order.....

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« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2008, 03:10:51 PM »
Thank you. Finally someone who understands that the world is not flat. :D

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« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2008, 03:16:04 PM »
yeah but you half to skip the one...so technically thats not the same...


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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2008, 03:26:39 PM »
Well, that's because of the geometrically different layout of the cylinder heads, Chevy has the left head forward, Ford the right (wrong ;D)..technically the "order" is the same.

The firing order is based on the camshaft, which is why there are two different firing orders for the Ford 289-351 and Chevy 283-400, three if you consider a 180* setup...but not very common.
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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2008, 04:36:16 PM »
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yeah but you half to skip the one...so technically thats not the same...

IT'S ONLY THE #1 BECAUSE FORD SAYS IT'S THE #1!!!

The cylinder numbers do not matter one bit!!! It's all about in what order each physical cylinder fires. The number is just a name given to the cylinder by the manufacturer and does not have anything to do with the firing order itself. It doesn't matter which number you start the firing sequence in. It's all in what order each one fires.

Again the world is not flat. Just like the earth rotates, so does the rotor contact in a distributor. It doesn't have a "starting point" per se...you could start at a Ford's #5 cylinder and treat it as the #1 cylinder and go through the firing order just like you would a Chevy, and you will still get the firing order right as long as you go counterclockwise on the dizzy cap.
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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2008, 04:59:54 PM »
ok so go ahead and start your timing on the five so your firing order is the same...fords a ford chevy is a chevy...i get what you are saying, but its completely stupid...point your dizzy towards one and call it a day...that is what the manufactures do as well right? when you point your dizzy to number one its not the same i will leave it at that


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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2008, 05:12:49 PM »
ok so go ahead and start your timing on the five so your firing order is the same...fords a ford chevy is a chevy...i get what you are saying, but its completely stupid...point your dizzy towards one and call it a day...that is what the manufactures do as well right? when you point your dizzy to number one its not the same i will leave it at that
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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2008, 05:15:44 PM »
ok so go ahead and start your timing on the five so your firing order is the same...fords a ford chevy is a chevy...i get what you are saying, but its completely stupid...point your dizzy towards one and call it a day...that is what the manufactures do as well right? when you point your dizzy to number one its not the same i will leave it at that

Unless your working on an International V-8, they index and time from #6 :screwy:

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« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2008, 05:22:51 PM »
Unless your working on an International V-8, they index and time from #6 :screwy:

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« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2008, 05:29:02 PM »
ok so go ahead and start your timing on the five so your firing order is the same...fords a ford chevy is a chevy...i get what you are saying, but its completely stupid...point your dizzy towards one and call it a day...that is what the manufactures do as well right? when you point your dizzy to number one its not the same i will leave it at that

OK...all I did was offer that bit of advice up for those who are used to working on Chevy's and are working on a Ford 460 for the first time to simplify and make it easier to figure out the firing order of one, and you came on here and debated the accuracy of the advice I gave. You tried to prove me wrong and you weren't able to...I'll leave it at that.
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« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2008, 06:05:59 PM »
your advice sucked...i would consider myself fairly mechanically inclined and know my way around...which i would like to think that i am alot like most people on this site...all you did was confuse me more meaning, you probably confused others...im not the least bit impressed..i looked at it from your perspective and made no since so i kept digging until it did...sorry about all this boost i hope you got your questions answered...


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« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2008, 06:21:56 PM »
your advice sucked...

Well...I was giving advice on a FORD...what did you expect?  ;D
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« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2008, 06:58:56 PM »
Well...I was giving advice on a FORD...what did you expect?  ;D
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« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2008, 07:03:09 PM »
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« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2008, 09:25:12 PM »
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« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2008, 08:33:06 PM »
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