May 22, 2012, 07:22:47 AMLatest Member: harley101

Author Topic: Going crazy planing my header plumbing  (Read 428 times)

N2GLOCK

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 199
  • Liked: 2
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Going crazy planing my header plumbing
« on: December 28, 2011, 12:06:28 PM »
I picked up some used Bassett OT headers and a T valve 2 months ago and the headers are currently at the chrome shop. Going tomorrow to pick up some lines and fittings. I'm in the process of trying to sketch out on paper how to plumb these things and I am going  :screwy: I've searched old threads on this forum and others and every thread has different answers.  My boat currently does not have a tstat and I am not sure if I need to run one. Also, I'm having trouble figuring out if I need one or two water dumps. What temp is the water coming out of the water dump(s)? Do I need some kind of pressure regulator that is set at a certain pressure inorder to avoid blowing head gaskets? How many valves do I need before the headers inorder to regulate water volume? Some say 1 (near the jet) and some say 2 (1 near the jet and another by the drivers seat) Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Willow Wog

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,145
  • Liked: 7
  • Karma: +1/-0
  • What is this scjb.TV?
    • View Profile
Re: Going crazy planing my header plumbing
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2011, 01:41:07 PM »
They way I have always done it is put a gate valve, like a for a garden hose, at the water inlet from the pump. Then run that to a regular open tee with each end of that tee going to both inlets on the water pump cover. Then one of the exits off of the t-stat cover exits goes to the bassett t-valve and off to the headers. The other exit on the t-stat cover goes into a second gate valve then off to a dump.  I hope that was understandable I normally send a drawing but can't from my phone. You use the first gate valve to slow up the water going into the motor and the second you use to some what control heat and pressure to the headers.

Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk
  • Boat #1: 1977 Hawaiian model? southwind splash
Coors light dreaming on a Keystone budget...

N2GLOCK

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 199
  • Liked: 2
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Going crazy planing my header plumbing
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2011, 03:06:38 PM »
So as far as the gate valve off the pump, should I be running something like this? I got this image from another forum.


Nick

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 511
  • Liked: 0
  • Karma: +1/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Going crazy planing my header plumbing
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2011, 03:34:29 PM »
Plumbing aside, something else i want to remind you is that you MAKE SURE that the first time you start the boat with new freshly chromed headers on is that you make sure they are clean of any grease and finger prints. What ever is on them the first time you heat them up will get stained on them FOREVER. So make sure to wipe them down thouroughly before heating them up the first time.

crewchief22

  • Informative Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,773
  • Liked: 16
  • Karma: +11/-0
  • Team Evil Wiener
    • View Profile
Re: Going crazy planing my header plumbing
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2011, 06:26:46 AM »
I have mine set up just like Wog's but you use the first gate valve to adjust engine temp, and the second gate valve (on the dump line) to help regulate when the water starts flowing into the headers.  You don't want water flowing into the headers below 1800-2000rpm. 

More back pressure=lower rpm,   less back pressure=higher rpm.   
  • Boat #1: '77 Hondo Pantera GT Jet
"Racing is life!  Anything that happens before or after, is just waiting"    Steve McQueen

The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

N2GLOCK

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 199
  • Liked: 2
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Going crazy planing my header plumbing
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2011, 09:47:14 AM »
I have mine set up just like Wog's but you use the first gate valve to adjust engine temp, and the second gate valve (on the dump line) to help regulate when the water starts flowing into the headers.  You don't want water flowing into the headers below 1800-2000rpm. 

More back pressure=lower rpm,   less back pressure=higher rpm.

You're confusing me a bit when you call the line that supplies the water to the headers as a dump line. I thought the dump line was the line that removed excess water from the system? As far as below 1800-200 rpm goes, I don't want any water thru the headers at all?

crewchief22

  • Informative Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,773
  • Liked: 16
  • Karma: +11/-0
  • Team Evil Wiener
    • View Profile
Re: Going crazy planing my header plumbing
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2011, 01:14:54 PM »
Sorry if I confused you.  It really is simple.  You don't want anything between the t-stat housing and the headers except the Bassett Tee/check valve.  By using a gate valve on the dump side (between the t-stat housing and the overboard dump) you are able to control how much back pressure is in the system...  Back pressure affects when the check valve opens to let water start flowing to the headers.


Hope this helps because I'm not going to be on-line much  the next couple days.

Crewchief
  • Boat #1: '77 Hondo Pantera GT Jet
"Racing is life!  Anything that happens before or after, is just waiting"    Steve McQueen

The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

SLCKREG

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 734
  • Liked: 0
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • View Profile
Re: Going crazy planing my header plumbing
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2011, 02:49:59 PM »
So as far as the gate valve off the pump, should I be running something like this? I got this image from another forum.
That looks like cas's set up right there. I kinda like the way he has the 2 valves so he can adjust the headers and engine independently.  The way crew chief is describing is like how bassett describes on their websight. My boat was set up like that.....I prefer to shim the bassett valve/spring to adjust what rpm the headers get wet....as opposed to chocking off the dump line. There are a zillion ways to plumb a jet boat. My opinion is no t-stat.......put a pressure gauge on in and ad a regulator IF you need one....I never have. In a nut shell you have 2 dump lines....your main dump....and the line going to the headers is also a dump. The valve up by the seat is just an optional precautionary device.IMO having said that I could have used one a few times this year. I had a piece of sillycone stick my valve open is time out this year. Was at powell idling through castle rock pass when I noticed my headers were wet....looked like the spring rusted in half. Got a new spring....gave her a little stretchy poo and she broke 1st time out. Thank god for vise grips. =) 

 


Powered by EzPortal
Order HD Helmet HERO at GoPro.com
anything