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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: 2savage4you on July 05, 2008, 11:46:38 AM

Title: New wiring harness
Post by: 2savage4you on July 05, 2008, 11:46:38 AM
 Would this be a good kit to pick up for the boat?  It has more wires than i need, but that is always better than not enough ;D

Anybody else pick up one of these 20 footer's for there boat ???
http://www.cpperformance.com/products/Electrical/wiring-harness.htm

2sav
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: BOOST on July 05, 2008, 11:58:03 AM
Would this be a good kit to pick up for the boat?  It has more wires than i need, but that is always better than not enough ;D

Anybody else pick up one of these 20 footer's for there boat ???
http://www.cpperformance.com/products/Electrical/wiring-harness.htm

2sav
whats the price on the harness if you do it yourself mite save some money i did my boat for under $100.00
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: bkplesh on July 05, 2008, 12:10:15 PM
this looks good http://www.cpperformance.com/detail.aspx?ID=835
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: bkplesh on July 05, 2008, 12:11:08 PM
Hit Marc up. He can get that for you  ;D
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: BOOST on July 05, 2008, 12:14:22 PM
this looks good http://www.cpperformance.com/detail.aspx?ID=835
now thats a deal for the price great find thats the way i go
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: 2savage4you on July 05, 2008, 12:15:36 PM
now thats a deal for the price great find thats the way i go

And its half of what i need.......... I am rewiring the whole boat... The other one i posted has it all :D

2sav
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: FORKEDUP on July 05, 2008, 12:16:29 PM
but its only the engine harness ??? what about everything going to the front of the boat, that one was like $240.00, just make it yourself, less money and you know how it is done
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: bkplesh on July 05, 2008, 12:26:44 PM
how much are you going to save? 40 buck or less and you have to do the work  :banghead:
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: bkplesh on July 05, 2008, 12:29:57 PM
It all depends on the wire size? I just wired the buggy and it was $120 for the wire and that's half of what a jet boat takes.
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: bkplesh on July 05, 2008, 12:51:48 PM

red wire #10   about 45 bucks

blk wire #10  about 45 bucks

white,blue,yellow,green,brown,pink   about  45 bucks

now wire Terminals  aboat 12 to 15 bucks


http://www.partsamerica.com/productdetail.aspx?MfrCode=DOR&MfrPartNumber=85740&CategoryCode=4022
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: bkplesh on July 05, 2008, 12:53:33 PM
then a fuse block  ?

It just faster to buy one done.(plus they should have writing on them  ;D) just my .02  ;D
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: bkplesh on July 05, 2008, 12:55:53 PM
http://www.danamarineproducts.com/ProductDetails.cfm?group_id=34&catid=282&productid=1607&CFID=433413&CFTOKEN=38069849
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: GT Jets on July 05, 2008, 01:00:35 PM
I like the Mercruiser style, and have used them on all 9 of our project boats, they can be bought pretty inexpensively, have plenty of wires, and the quick connect makes engine removal simple.

I buy used blown up Merc, engines and steal the harnesses off them, its cheap, they have circuit breakers for the main and they come out pretty clean. You can purchase the dash side of the harness for like thirty-five bucks.

But I am a cheap bastard ::)
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: GAWnCA on July 06, 2008, 06:17:47 AM
I like running my own wires when I can find the right colors.  I finally did on eBay.  Use the standard marine wiring color guide and you're all set and anyone can figure out what you've done.

#14 item number:  190234841505

#16 item number:  200236898925

I don't know where you are buying #10 wire but you can get that from Lowe's or Home Depot, stranded for about $ .50 a foot or less.  So both the black and white can be had (20 feet x 2) for about $20.00.  You can twist it or you can run it through convoluted tubing that I got from SummitRacing.com.  As for connectors, you can find them on eBay as well, but it's just as easy to go to your local big box store and buy them or automotive parts store.
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: 2savage4you on July 06, 2008, 06:28:33 AM
Do all the wire have to 10gage ?

or just the power and ground wires......

I checked our local hardware store, and 14 gage is .19 cents a foot but if i need 10 gage that a little more

2sav
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: GAWnCA on July 06, 2008, 06:32:21 AM
I only used #10 for the power and the ground to the dash, also the starting circuit.  I think you could use #16 for everything else.  The Hardin Marine harness looks to be like #18 or smaller.  Nothing is really drawing enough current except when starting, to warrant real heavy wiring.
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: 2savage4you on July 06, 2008, 06:51:47 AM
I only used #10 for the power and the ground to the dash, also the starting circuit.  I think you could use #16 for everything else.  The Hardin Marine harness looks to be like #18 or smaller.  Nothing is really drawing enough current except when starting, to warrant real heavy wiring.

Thats what i thought, thanks.........

I went out and measured the boat the 20' wire harness is about 5' too long......I dont know if it will come with all connectors attached or if it will let you trim to fit ??? If not..... I will buy my wire from the hardware store and get with it....   I really like what skip did with his set up. That plug idea is bitchen....

2sav
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: GAWnCA on July 06, 2008, 06:54:39 AM
Thats what i thought, thanks.........

I went out and measured the boat the 20' wire harness is about 5' too long......I dont know if it will come with all connectors attached or if it will let you trim to fit ??? If not..... I will buy my wire from the hardware store and get with it....   I really like what skip did with his set up. That plug idea is bitchen....

2sav

Where's that thread from Skip's wiring?  I'm always open to other ideas.  I don't think you'll find all the right colors in a hardware store.  Had I found the eBay site before I did mine, I would have gone with the #16 and alol the right colors for a boat wiring job.
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: bkplesh on July 06, 2008, 07:02:30 AM
napa has all the colors
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: 2savage4you on July 06, 2008, 07:12:20 AM
napa has all the colors

Figures................ours just closed its doors :banghead:

2sav
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: GAWnCA on July 06, 2008, 07:12:45 AM
napa has all the colors

The one near me didn't so I had to shop around and then had to substitute a couple of colors that were close. 
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: GAWnCA on July 06, 2008, 07:13:26 AM
Figures................ours just closed its doors :banghead:

2sav

Try Summit.
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: bkplesh on July 06, 2008, 07:14:19 AM
shit all six store by me have them in any color and size  :banghead:
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: bkplesh on July 06, 2008, 07:15:30 AM
try marc on monday (Super shops)  ;D
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: 2savage4you on July 06, 2008, 07:23:05 AM
I think this is the plug he used  ???
http://www.jegs.com/p/MSD/747881/10002/-1/10409

How many wires are there, this only allows 6

2sav
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: GAWnCA on July 06, 2008, 07:36:00 AM
I think this is the plug he used  ???
http://www.jegs.com/p/MSD/747881/10002/-1/10409

How many wires are there, this only allows 6

2sav

I've got 7 running through the wiring block but you could run your ground wire separate.  That plug won't handle the #10 wire anyway. 
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: bkplesh on July 06, 2008, 07:37:21 AM
why do you need that? ;D

Are you planing on taking the motor out alot?  >:D

I hate those plugs :banghead:
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: GAWnCA on July 06, 2008, 07:39:51 AM
why do you need that? ;D

Are you planing on taking the motor out alot?  >:D

I hate those plugs :banghead:

I think it has more to do with making the wiring job look neat and clean.  I hate messy wiring. 
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: 2savage4you on July 06, 2008, 07:42:17 AM
I think it has more to do with making the wiring job look neat and clean.  I hate messy wiring. 


Bingo, we have a winner  ::)

2sav ;D
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: GAWnCA on July 06, 2008, 07:58:01 AM
This is what I used and will be cutting it down to size as soon as I'm sure I don't need to run any more wires.

(http://gregaw.home.comcast.net/Terminal Block 004-Vsm.jpg)

It will handle the #10 wire too.  Here's mine finished:

(http://gregaw.home.comcast.net/wiring terminal-vsm.jpg)

You can see I have more than enough lugs if I needed them.
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: LBsuperjet on July 06, 2008, 09:36:56 AM
2 Sav-

I used a 6 pin Painless Wiring Weatherpack connector, http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=PRF%2D70406&N=700+4294836937+115&autoview=sku (http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=PRF%2D70406&N=700+4294836937+115&autoview=sku) I like the way it looks, and like Greg said, I just ran my ground independent of this connector.
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: Luckie Stiff on July 06, 2008, 09:41:17 AM
That post from LB Superpooper was me, he left his screenname signed in.


Skip
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: 2savage4you on July 06, 2008, 09:46:58 AM
That post from LB Superpooper was me, he left his screenname signed in.


Skip

Uh OH.......... I think we got a new Sheriff in town :D
Superpooper, thats funny ;D

2sav
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: blackbeard on October 24, 2008, 08:53:25 AM
Hey Guys
for any color wire check out a local electrical supply store. they should ahve the colors and wire size you want and you can get it in any amount. 2',20' etc. and you can get stranded. just  to let you know.
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: blackbeard on October 27, 2008, 03:15:08 PM
Here is a wiring harness for you all. try this one for size guys.
Title: Re: New wiring harness
Post by: BOOST on October 27, 2008, 07:13:34 PM

Bingo, we have a winner  ::)

2sav ;D
2sav if you hard wire the the boat meaning no electrical box it looks a lot cleaner and less wire you'll have to use, run each wire were it has to go. just my o2