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« on: February 19, 2016, 01:43:39 PM »
I have a 10quart oil pan but no bung for a sender can I use a port in the filter housing ? Or? 


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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2016, 02:01:31 PM »
I have a 10quart oil pan but no bung for a sender can I use a port in the filter housing ? Or? 


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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2016, 02:27:34 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2016, 04:49:35 PM »
For oil temperature, not oil pressure,right?
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2016, 09:29:20 AM »
Yep for temp


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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2016, 11:48:14 AM »
I have seen T's at oil pressure sender. Also at pan if you want sump temp. You really worried about Olds oil temp? Might be interesting to watch though. I've been using Oldsmobile motors for nigh on 40 yrs and never had oil temp gauges. Yeah, might be interesting.
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2016, 11:57:47 AM »
Sorry,  somehow forgot to subscribe.

Where is your pressure sender?  In the filter adapter?
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2016, 07:30:15 AM »
No at front of block..


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« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2016, 08:29:41 AM »
Could you throw a brass "T" inline with the pressure sensor? Or would welding a bung in the pan be a better option?

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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2016, 09:57:16 AM »

I have seen T's at oil pressure sender. Also at pan if you want sump temp. You really worried about Olds oil temp? Might be interesting to watch though. I've been using Oldsmobile motors for nigh on 40 yrs and never had oil temp gauges. Yeah, might be interesting.

I've got an olds with a oil temp gauge and I've got up to 300. In the process of putting a cooler on it now


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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2016, 10:22:18 AM »
No at front of block..


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Then use the filter adapter.  Perfect spot. That oil comes straight off the oil pump.

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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2016, 12:01:42 PM »
There's the 455's oil pressure sending unit location,in front of engine.  One is T'd to pressure gauge. Simply to wire a temp gauge instead of pressure. Pan bung much more accurate for sure fairly easy if not installed. Likewise for filter adapter.
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« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2016, 12:04:57 PM »

There's the 455's oil pressure sending unit location,in front of engine.  One is T'd to pressure gauge. Simply to wire a temp gauge instead of pressure. Pan bung much more accurate for sure fairly easy if not installed. Likewise for filter adapter.

Is that your motor? How big of a nos shot are you givin that thing? I'm thinkin about givin mine a little squeeze


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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2016, 12:05:12 PM »
There's no flow there, it's a dead end. The oil pressure can be taken anywhere,  the temperature must be in the path of flow. The filter adapter is ideal if not in the pan.

Most adapters are drilled for a sender for pressure. Use that for temp.

JMO

You technically can't get temp on a tee.

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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2016, 03:24:56 PM »
My opinion, do it right and weld a bung onto the pan...

Sure it may take time to do it right, but you want oil temp for a reason. So might as well do it right the first time!

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« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2016, 03:33:39 PM »
My opinion, do it right and weld a bung onto the pan...

Sure it may take time to do it right, but you want oil temp for a reason. So might as well do it right the first time!

Best wishes, Shawn

How is in the adapter not "right".

The pan mounted sender is second best IMO.

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« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2016, 03:39:52 PM »
To each their own... My intent was to be understood as take your time and don't do a hack to try and get it to work. Didn't want to offend anyone by my post, sorry of I did.

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« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2016, 03:44:13 PM »
To each their own... My intent was to be understood as take your time and don't do a hack to try and get it to work. Didn't want to offend anyone by my post, sorry of I did.

Shawn

No offense taken.  Ever.  Just curious why it is everyone thinks in  the pan is the ticket,  truth is,  in the oil path is a good indication of actual "usable" oil temperature.

Just an opinion. That's all.

The oil filter is the absolute first thing to get oil from the pan.

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« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2016, 03:47:18 PM »
My belief, I think that the pan holds the bulk of the oil and therefore should give the best average of temperature. + or -

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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2016, 04:00:58 PM »
My belief, I think that the pan holds the bulk of the oil and therefore should give the best average of temperature. + or -

Why accept an average when the real temperature of the oil serving the bearings is available?

That's all I'm saying, I doubt the bearings care if there is 30F cooler oil somewhere in the pan.

Not hatin', just debate'n. Lol


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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2016, 04:14:04 PM »
And the temp on the heads is the same as the pan? Or the oil touching the bottom of the piston is the same temp as the oil in the filter? Average to me seems like a healthier way to use as a baseline. Just my 2 cents... I like your idea though and may try it on another build I'm working on. Good chat!

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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2016, 04:14:09 PM »
Bunger. Not my motor sir,from my galleries, nice though.

GT sir,it's hard to tell my "pink'd,almost scared" arms,fingers and belly that port is a dead end. It's hotter than jell. It would register on any heat gauge. As per Berkeley instructions,changed many a oil change at that  port,it's HOT! Dead end it is, a hot dead end. As stated the adapter or pan bung is more accurate for sure. Easy if uninstalled. And your a young buck. Thanks Bunger,Thanks GT 👊
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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2016, 04:39:40 PM »
Bunger. Not my motor sir,from my galleries, nice though.

GT sir,it's hard to tell my "pink'd,almost scared" arms,fingers and belly that port is a dead end. It's hotter than jell. It would register on any heat gauge. As per Berkeley instructions,changed many a oil change at that  port,it's HOT! Dead end it is, a hot dead end. As stated the adapter or pan bung is more accurate for sure. Easy if uninstalled. And your a young buck. Thanks Bunger,Thanks GT 👊

Lol.

Basically,  I say that being as its at the end of the system and on the front of the block (oil pump feeds from the back) and that is a port into a port (meaning it feeds nothing), that makes it a dead end.

It's the same story on a small block Chevy.

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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2016, 05:04:35 PM »

There's no flow there, it's a dead end. The oil pressure can be taken anywhere,  the temperature must be in the path of flow. The filter adapter is ideal if not in the pan.

Most adapters are drilled for a sender for pressure. Use that for temp.

JMO

You technically can't get temp on a tee.

GT
Thank u that's were I'm putting it on the oil filter housing ..


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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2016, 08:48:44 PM »
Nice picture Vwagon I know where you got that from that's my uncles 455 hahaha the first one btw

 


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