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« on: January 20, 2009, 12:50:09 AM »
ok heres my problem 454 10.1 comp tunnel ram dual 650 dubble pumps.wet stacks berk pump ab stanless impeller 19ft tahiti low profile hull semi pro grate,can not get over 4200 rpm 50 mph.ready to shoot this piece of wonderful crap.need input trying to get back to or close to 6000 rpm .this thing is giving me a headace


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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2009, 01:08:46 AM »
ok heres my problem 454 10.1 comp tunnel ram dual 650 dubble pumps.wet stacks berk pump ab stanless impeller 19ft tahiti low profile hull semi pro grate,can not get over 4200 rpm 50 mph.ready to shoot this piece of wonderful crap.need input trying to get back to or close to 6000 rpm .this thing is giving me a headace
Whats your timing at ?
Are you sure the carbs are opening up completly?
Are you getting any, enough, or the correct amount of fuel pressure?
Are you getting too much fuel at WOT?

Try trouble shooting things one at a time like a check list .
The fact that it runs tells you something is not happening in the upper RPM's

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i dont but im all for stuffin shit in her ass to make her go away :-*

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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2009, 01:22:14 AM »
timming is at 20 base has crane ing 36  carbs open all the way fuel pressure is 6psi wide open.the only thing different from last year is the pump went from a panther to a berk built and swap by jbp

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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2009, 01:33:05 AM »
Were the carbs freshened up at all.
They could have gotten fugged up from sitting .

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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2009, 01:36:39 AM »
cleaned up new fuel line filters all readjusted.should have left the darn panther in it and just re ringed and new bearings every year from the 6500 rpms at least i was at 63 mph then
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2009, 05:57:57 PM »
How many hours are on the motor?, Is it at all possible the timing chain slipped, who installed the engine? JBP?

What else has changed? Does it rev out of the water?

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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2009, 06:16:40 PM »
Your timing is set at 20 base? Isn't a BBC's timing supposed to be around 10 deg. before tdc? Giving it about 32 deg. total.
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2009, 06:21:46 PM »
Most mechanical advance in the distributor is good for 20 degrees with an initial setting of 13-16 for a total of 33-36 degrees.

Double check the timing with a dial back type timing light.  Also check your balancer to make to see if the outer ring has slipped (bring it up to TDC #1 and see if the timing mark is at TDC)
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2009, 06:22:29 PM »
Your timing is set at 20 base? Isn't a BBC's timing supposed to be around 10 deg. before tdc? Giving it about 32 deg. total.

Typical mechanical advanced is only good for about 12*-20* delta, on a car, the vacuum advance is good for another 12*...

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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2009, 06:22:51 PM »
new chain installed it my self.engine bounces off rev limiter out of water.base is at 20 due to the crane fireball ignition

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« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2009, 06:24:48 PM »
Cam timing F-ed...Probably too retarded...Just another opinion.

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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2009, 06:24:59 PM »
engine cant get out of its own way at 16 deg

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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2009, 06:37:18 PM »
hard to start and takes for ever to get plained out .kick it up to 20 runs great just wont spin past 4200.

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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2009, 06:39:32 PM »
You'd be surprised! Best thing is get the cam degree'd. Willing to agree with GT, sounds like cam timing out quite a bit. If cam timings out, lord knows what ignition timing is adding to the mix.

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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2009, 06:41:14 PM »
new chain installed it my self.engine bounces off rev limiter out of water.base is at 20 due to the crane fireball ignition

Cam timing F-ed, have you removed the rev limiter pill to eliminate it from the picture?

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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2009, 06:42:50 PM »
not the removeable type turnedit up to 12 and didnt make any  difference

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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2009, 06:44:42 PM »
You can get offset keys. Does no good without a degree wheel and a dial indicator.

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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2009, 06:56:24 PM »
What impellor is in the jet???
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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2009, 07:03:40 PM »
sounds like he has a stainless AB from the original post
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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2009, 07:13:29 PM »
Run it again with a vacuum guage, bet it has low vacuum...


I have made this "boo boo" before (Skip, that would ba a mistake  ;) ) probably either off a tooth or on the wrong key slot...


A cheating way to check on the slipped harmonic balancer would be to keep bumping the timing a couple degrees until she knocks...If the cam timing is dust it will ping right away...

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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2009, 07:23:14 PM »
First, and Tom will chime in here eventually I'm sure since he built and installed the jet, Sounds to me like you have way too much impeller for the HP you have.IN addition to other issues, ie cam timing. ??? Dunno where your HP curve is at, but if you plan to run the boat at 6000 RPM , and that's where it's max HP is at, and you have, say 500HP, you should be running a C impleller.

This is info I gathered from Tom, correct me if I'm wrong guys.

IMHO You have bigger issues in that timing set change tho.

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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2009, 08:45:09 PM »
First, and Tom will chime in here eventually I'm sure since he built and installed the jet, Sounds to me like you have way too much impeller for the HP you have.IN addition to other issues, ie cam timing. ??? Dunno where your HP curve is at, but if you plan to run the boat at 6000 RPM , and that's where it's max HP is at, and you have, say 500HP, you should be running a C impleller.

This is info I gathered from Tom, correct me if I'm wrong guys.

IMHO You have bigger issues in that timing set change tho.

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X2, unless that 454 has some serious nads, 6000 is a lot of rpm on an AB, I've turned a BC at 5800 RPM and it was a dyno verified 680+/- HP at 5500 RPM with the mufflers in on race gas, how worn was the old pump?

Trying to be constructive, not condisending, hopefully not read wrong...Jack and Coke both have bad attitudes.... ;D

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« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2009, 08:49:25 PM »
Lol Captain and coke here GT, Maybe they coincide in empathizing bad intentions!

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« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2009, 08:56:33 PM »
Lol Captain and coke here GT, Maybe they coincide in empathizing bad intentions!

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« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2009, 09:02:21 PM »
rember it was a panther i spun it over 7000 with no prob.could not get rpms down now i cant get them back up rpms that is. might have to have tom cut it down or go real crazy with this dang bbc.any one have any steroids for my bbc

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« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2009, 09:05:57 PM »
rember it was a panther i spun it over 7000 with no prob.could not get rpms down now i cant get them back up rpms that is. might have to have tom cut it down or go real crazy with this dang bbc.any one have any steroids for my bbc

I'm thinking 200 shot of NOS  >:D

Then a quality rebuild... :-\

7000 R's on a BBC  :o, I think if you go look, your rods are an inch longer than they started out.....this must be one hell of a Big Block...
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« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2009, 09:12:20 PM »
before pump change 6000 63 mph 7000,70ish stayed around 6 on the rev at a solid 63 mph on the gps.only difference from last year is ballanced .100 popup studed top and bottom and oringed block cooper head gaskets engine has 10 hours since put in

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« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2009, 09:12:41 PM »
rember it was a panther i spun it over 7000 with no prob.could not get rpms down now i cant get them back up rpms that is. might have to have tom cut it down or go real crazy with this dang bbc.any one have any steroids for my bbc
    7000's RPM"S :o  your tach setting is set wrong.LOL Check the clean out in the pump
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« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2009, 09:14:00 PM »
before pump change 6000 63 mph 7000,70ish stayed around 6 on the rev at a solid 63 mph on the gps.only difference from last year is ballanced .100 popup studed top and bottom and oringed block cooper head gaskets engine has 10 hours since put in

Did it ever run right with the built pump? Also curious if the motor is just tuned wrong, it could just be a couple of thing wrong working against you, I have had four after dinner frosty adult beverages, so may be full of crap, but this has valve timing written all over it, they will idle, rev, start like crap, drink a bunch of fuel and be like Richard Simmons (read; no balls), just my .02c, worth breaking out the dial indicator and a degree wheel...

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« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2009, 09:16:16 PM »
before pump change 6000 63 mph 7000,70ish stayed around 6 on the rev at a solid 63 mph on the gps.only difference from last year is ballanced .100 popup studed top and bottom and oringed block cooper head gaskets engine has 10 hours since put in
Bro somethings wrong I'm turning 70@4500 rpm's check behind the tach for setting's

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« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2009, 09:17:51 PM »
its set at 8 cyl

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« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2009, 09:21:11 PM »
AT the risk of repeating myself, if you hit 70's with the same engine, then had a better pump built and put in, by TOM, AND changed the timing gears. Where would be the weakest link?

Am I repeating myself?  Dude, check the timing, i'm telling you it's off. Then check the hand hole in the pump, could be a rope in it or something, but I doubt that. Finally, unless you're pushing somewhere in the neighborhood of 600 hp or so, at THAT rpm, the impeller you chose is wrong. But it should still push you well into the 60's.

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« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2009, 09:21:33 PM »
its set at 8 cyl

Me and POPs had the same problem people looked at us like your crazy 7000's rpm's it was the tach it was a bad one.

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« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2009, 09:22:11 PM »
Bro somethings wrong I'm turning 70@4500 rpm's check behind the tach for setting's

7000 RPM sounds like an Outlaw Sprint Car race   >:D  Indoors  :o

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« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2009, 09:24:53 PM »
7000 rpm's on a BBC in my opinion would sound like the second sign when the locusts are coming. Or, more like F1 racing, lol

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« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2009, 09:26:00 PM »
then the rev limiter is wrong also

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« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2009, 09:28:37 PM »
7000 rpm's on a BBC in my opinion would sound like the second sign when the locusts are coming. Or, more like F1 racing, lol

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LOL, if my BBC ever turned 7K it would sound exactly like mife wife shopping with a credit card.........Expensive! ::)

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« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2009, 09:30:16 PM »
Could very well be, or not.

Just the basics guy, we're trying to help, not make fun. 1 step at a time and you should have what seems to be to be a 70 mph or better boat. We're just challenging each other right now with the best quips.

Check the cam timing, IMHO, THAT is going to be you culprit. No finger pointing, but I once timed a 340 Chrysler damn near 180 degrees out of phase and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't start. Well 7 bent valves and a thousand bucks later, learned my lesson.

Just saying, we all do it.

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« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2009, 09:30:46 PM »
where is tom

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« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2009, 09:31:27 PM »
Could very well be, or not.

Just the basics guy, we're trying to help, not make fun. 1 step at a time and you should have what seems to be to be a 70 mph or better boat. We're just challenging each other right now with the best quips.

Check the cam timing, IMHO, THAT is going to be you culprit. No finger pointing, but I once timed a 340 Chrysler damn near 180 degrees out of phase and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't start. Well 7 bent valves and a thousand bucks later, learned my lesson.

Just saying, we all do it.

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X2, Hey Mike, you're in Concord, your like less than an hour from me, most of these other guys live several hours from here....

We need to get a not so SoCal outing together...There are some peeps in the Sac area too, American River?

BTW, don't mean any disrespect, just screwing around...

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« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2009, 09:36:05 PM »
where is tom

Trying to figure out why all of his computer pictures look like sheep  :o

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« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2009, 09:36:09 PM »
 Check and recheck like GT said something small, out of tune.

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« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2009, 09:36:36 PM »
sounds good to me if i dont shot this darn boat first

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« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2009, 09:38:13 PM »
Like my newest boat??? you mean? lol I'm damn PROUD of that boat, Udder Nonsense, lol

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« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2009, 09:39:42 PM »
have to admit tom and josh did a purdy job installing the pump

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« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2009, 09:40:48 PM »
Like my newest boat??? you mean? lol I'm damn PROUD of that boat, Udder Nonsense, lol

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Just hope it don't have milky oil, hey it might run tits, you just never know, I bet it really mooves and that aint no bullshit... ;D

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« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2009, 09:40:58 PM »
have to admit tom and josh did a purdy job installing the pump
Where's the pics

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« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2009, 09:41:51 PM »
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« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2009, 09:43:36 PM »
dont know how to get them here there are in projects under tahitimike pump swap

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« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2009, 09:46:40 PM »
You weren't a part of the Fiasco? hard to beleive, I thought everyone chimed in. Heres the pics I have, to be delivered on Friday follow the link,  pg 3 I think

http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=5683.50

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« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2009, 09:47:42 PM »
dont know how to get them here there are in projects under tahitimike pump swap
PASTE AND COPY :screwy:

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« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2009, 09:48:49 PM »
Just hope it don't have milky oil, hey it might run tits, you just never know, I bet it really mooves and that aint no bullshit...


GT can always count on you, lmao

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« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2009, 09:50:47 PM »
Paste and copy??? this was easier, let the guy see why we are how we are, lol

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« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2009, 09:52:25 PM »
need help projects page 5 can some one bring them over please

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« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2009, 09:54:22 PM »
You dun wanna see that

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« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2009, 09:56:43 PM »
sure they do

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« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2009, 10:02:25 PM »




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« Reply #57 on: January 20, 2009, 10:04:33 PM »
thank you only thing different is now there is no droop only a diverter

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« Reply #58 on: January 20, 2009, 10:12:10 PM »
OK, Here's  the Udder nonsense

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« Reply #59 on: January 20, 2009, 10:17:54 PM »
No sweat, I really funny story before I go pass out, I mean go to sleep...

Had a guy bring a jetboat in to me when I had my shop (probably 1997), he said the engine siezed up and wanted to put in a ZZ454 from GMPP (cost like $5,000) and I could have the origional BBC as a core, I asked him if he wanted me to troubleshoot the failure and he said no, so I pulled the motor and put it on the ground in the back of the shop, ordered up a crate motor, switched over the marine parts, and could not get the engine to turn over, turns out there was about 100' of nylon rope wrapped around the pump shaft, it completely filled the intake section, I had to cut it out with a die grinder and filled a medium sized garbage can, I called him and told him what I had found and he thought I was screwing with him...Needless to say there was nothing wrong with his origional motor, which turned out to be an LS7, I still have it, runs like a top....


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« Reply #60 on: January 20, 2009, 10:18:41 PM »
OK, Here's  the Udder nonsense

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ROFLMAOPMP    ;D ;D :D ;D

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« Reply #61 on: January 20, 2009, 10:20:27 PM »
OK Here it is, lol

no moooing

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« Reply #62 on: January 20, 2009, 10:21:21 PM »
Well hell that didn't work, not wnough rum I guess.

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« Reply #63 on: January 20, 2009, 10:23:11 PM »
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« Reply #64 on: January 20, 2009, 10:25:39 PM »
Me thinks me needs to stick to the rum and ignore idle protests to post the same pictures that took me hours to post in the first friggin place.

That's my stand

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« Reply #65 on: January 20, 2009, 10:27:34 PM »
And yes, it is pretty phucking funny, GT, lol

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« Reply #66 on: January 20, 2009, 10:28:19 PM »
Right click the pic, save as (I use a temp file) go to a post page select additional options, brouse to pic, double click it, bring down the link inline Image and select fullsize attatch for each pic and position them where you want, I think this will only work for .jpg though, not photobucket and whatnot...I got a killer buzz on soooo may bring down the international space station IDK...

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« Reply #67 on: January 20, 2009, 10:29:10 PM »
so what did we come up with that i need to go back and take timein chain 101

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« Reply #68 on: January 20, 2009, 10:32:57 PM »
so what did we come up with that i need to go back and take timein chain 101

$20 dial indicator, cam spec sheet, degree wheel and a valve cover gasket, find out where the valves are supposed to open and see where they are opening, the difference is "boo-boo" area..Just a quick way to check it IMO...Take an hour or so...

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« Reply #69 on: January 20, 2009, 10:35:40 PM »
ooooooooooh I get, need to click on my post! Gawd, no wonder my rantings drove my wife to death. ( JUst a joke guys, really, I Loved her,--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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« Reply #70 on: January 20, 2009, 10:36:21 PM »
LMFDAO still didn't work
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« Reply #71 on: January 20, 2009, 10:40:56 PM »
LMFDAO still didn't work

Ray, I have pissed my pants three times now, where is this damn moo boat thread, my eyes are watering and I can't find it....
Please just right click the address bar when you have it on your screen and paste it to a post, I can't take anymore...Your killing me here.

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« Reply #72 on: January 20, 2009, 10:49:10 PM »
Heres the deal with the degree wheel, need the spec sheet for the cam, should be able to d/l if you ain't got. Attach the degree wheel to the crank, no balancer. Get the dial indicator set up on the number 1 intake rocker right at the pushrod. Use a screwdriver or whatever and watch the dial indicator until you know for sure your are at TDC on #1 cylinder on compression stroke. Then, as GT told you, mark THAT POINT, use a coat hanger mounted off a block bolt or whatever, then bend it around so it points to zero or a point you can reference. You COULD move the degree whell, but only if math is a problem.

As you rotate the engine, watch the dial indicator. when it reaches full lift, on the intake stroke, rotate back and forth and look at when the dial indicator is highest, note that number, then look at the degree wheel. Should be within, and GT will chime in I'm sure, what the cam specs say are acceptable. You can get further by lookingh at .050 lift, but full lift tells you if your even close to time.

Do the same with the exhaust rocker on #1 cylinder. Then split the results between the two and that's your timing target.

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« Reply #73 on: January 20, 2009, 10:51:29 PM »
Did that twice, lol but here we go again

http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=5683.0

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« Reply #74 on: January 21, 2009, 01:51:21 AM »
The Panther is a seriously underperforming pump when decent power is added .
A worn panther pump is a recipe for motor salad .
If your tach is acurate and you were spinning 7K and hitting 60ish , I'd be pissed.
4200 rpm with lower MPH tells you your gonna get some serious gains when the motor gets into it's power range.
I absolutly hate doing shit alone in fear that I'll screw something up and I do .
Double checking is alot cheaper than rebuilding .
I'll even venture out to say you'll see speeds in the low 70's.

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« Reply #75 on: January 21, 2009, 11:33:15 PM »
here is a pic of the pain in my neck

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« Reply #76 on: January 22, 2009, 02:50:26 PM »
i would definitely check the timing key ways on the crank. Most aftermarket sets and even some stock ones have 3 marks and if you dont look at it REAL closely you can put it on the wrong slot.

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« Reply #77 on: January 22, 2009, 03:09:26 PM »
A number of years ago, a friend of mine came over to help me with my motor. Apparently he lined up the marks for a 427 instead of a 454, what a mess that was.

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« Reply #78 on: January 31, 2009, 02:10:49 AM »
 So have you got it figured out? I hope the outcome is good let us know how testing went. :banghead:

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« Reply #79 on: January 31, 2009, 05:14:05 AM »
Hey Mike
I remember your boat now that I can see it. I met you up at Berryessa a few years ago with the Laid Back Boaters. I was driving the orange Nordic minicruiser, sitting under the bridge with Cas. I thought your boat ran really well with that panther.

I just read through this thread. My question would be what did the motor sound like at the 4200 rpms? Did it run strong right up to the 4200, or kind of "starve out" ? I had a similar experience in a sleekcraft that I put a good BBC (from another boat) into. Started right up, ran great on the trailer, but when I got to the lake, it wouldn't go above 4000 rpms. I fiddled with the timing, fuel filter, carb, an figured it needed a tune up. Took it home and it ran perfect on the trailer, but I changed the points (yes it was that long ago) and plugs. Went back to the lake and its back at 4000 rpms. I was about ready to pull the plug, when I decided to disconnect the fuel line from the tank and poke it down the fuel fill--whoa, all of a sudden I was getting 5200 rpms out of that little race boat. Turns out the screens in both tanks were clogged, and restricting the fuel flow. Fuel flow was fine at idle, and with no load on the pump, but not enough to feed the motor past the 4000 rpms in the water. All I had to do is take the sending tubes out of the tanks and replace the screens. Maybe you've already figured it out, but I thought I'd relate my experience.

Mark--"Sanger Pete"

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« Reply #80 on: January 31, 2009, 06:53:35 AM »
That is great information Mark.
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