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Manual vs hydraulic place diverter
« on: March 04, 2008, 07:16:54 AM »
This is my scenario. I have somewhat of a hydraulic place diverter, but im thinking about going manual. Since you guy's out there have both what is your opinion with it  Pro's/con's ;D

I have the pump, but dont even know if it works. I have the wiring,the ram (i think its called) and dont even know if its any good...

I dont want to do it twice thats why im thinking manual, you know it will work ;D

Opinions please.........this is what i have so far

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Re: Manual vs hydraulic place diverter
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2008, 07:31:55 AM »
I love my hydraulic. You are missing the resivoir(sp). If you can find one just hook it up and see if it works before you install it. Just my .02
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Re: Manual vs hydraulic place diverter
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2008, 07:42:05 AM »
sooooo..... it looks like im missing more than i thought, so i take a chance and buy it and it dont work, or just go manual....

I think that question answered itself ;)

Thanks.......

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Re: Manual vs hydraulic place diverter
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2008, 07:44:57 AM »
the res is on the bottom of the pump, that being said i have nothing but probs with my hyd unit so i went manual

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Re: Manual vs hydraulic place diverter
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2008, 07:53:22 AM »
At least half of the people with hydraulic diverters don't use the the stock hydraulic set-up, seems to be riddled with problems after storing it over the winter, usually people switch to a Banderlog valve which replaces most of the stock components. The pro's on the hyd. setup are the button is on the wheel to change the divertor's angle which keeps both of your hands on the steering wheel. The con's of the hyd. setup is that you don't know where your divertor is pointing unless you have a trim gauge or turn your head to look behind you. The pro's of a manual setup is you can look down at your handle and know where your divertor is pointing. The con's of the manual setup is you have to take your hand off the steering wheel to change divertor angle. Either way you're looking to see where the divertor is pointing.

But I think you knew what you're going to do before you asked the question.  :banghead:  So instead of throwing everything in the trash let me buy that divertor switch off of you because the choice between hydraulic and manual divertor's for me is an easy one.  :sly:
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Re: Manual vs hydraulic place diverter
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2008, 08:22:40 AM »
hyd. pros it is easy to put up and down, con  you don't know where you are at with it. turn around to look, it looks ok??, some one else pulls you sking trying to set it he knocks out you eye balls, when it goes out $300.00 for new pump, manual, you know where it is at, ski, cruise, race, put it in the notch you choose, someone else drives you just tell them witch notch, if it breaks its just a cable and that rarely happens,$100.00 on a bigger boat  the diverter doesn't react so critical, but on a small boat it reacts more and sooner, so if you change a notch you know where you are at, hyd. you hit the button and you could be three notches, and all over the place.  Jim

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Re: Manual vs hydraulic place diverter
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2008, 08:59:10 AM »
one of the con's for manual is the handle.....

ultimatly i am not going to run a floor in the liberty so that forces me to use a stringer mount handle......and with only one place to mount it....between my legs. yeah, that might be ok for everyday lake boats.....but for racing, the last thing i want is a diverter handle in the balls.

I dont want to run hydrolic either, so i might look into one of those cav plate type handles. Theres a few on ebay.
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Re: Manual vs hydraulic place diverter
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2008, 09:09:27 AM »
one of the con's for manual is the handle.....

ultimatly i am not going to run a floor in the liberty so that forces me to use a stringer mount handle......and with only one place to mount it....between my legs. yeah, that might be ok for everyday lake boats.....but for racing, the last thing i want is a diverter handle in the balls.

I dont want to run hydrolic either, so i might look into one of those cav plate type handles. Theres a few on ebay.

On my Brendella Brian built a base for the seats and mounted the handle right next to it. It is just like a shifter in a car I can grab it without ever taking my eyes off the water in front of me. With a full stringer boat it should be real easy to do.

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Re: Manual vs hydraulic place diverter
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2008, 09:09:35 AM »
Brad, Can you post up a link or pic of what you are talking about ;D sounds like a good idea. 2sav

one of the con's for manual is the handle.....

ultimatly i am not going to run a floor in the liberty so that forces me to use a stringer mount handle......and with only one place to mount it....between my legs. yeah, that might be ok for everyday lake boats.....but for racing, the last thing i want is a diverter handle in the balls.

I dont want to run hydrolic either, so i might look into one of those cav plate type handles. Theres a few on ebay.
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Re: Manual vs hydraulic place diverter
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2008, 09:23:38 AM »
On my Brendella Brian built a base for the seats and mounted the handle right next to it. It is just like a shifter in a car I can grab it without ever taking my eyes off the water in front of me. With a full stringer boat it should be real easy to do.

A pic of where the handle sits is in this thread...
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Re: Manual vs hydraulic place diverter
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2008, 03:14:51 PM »
i am using a hydraulic unit and have had no problems since install 3 yrs ago=as far as knowing where you are on nozzle =i use a quick count as i push the button and with some practice i am pretty close to where i want it to be and with the hydraulic you can do alot of rooster dancing alot easier==haha

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Re: Manual vs hydraulic place diverter
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2008, 03:31:20 PM »
When I get a diverter I'm planning on going manual mainly because you'll always know where it is (other than maintenance, I think that's the main problem with hydraulic unless you install a gauge that shows the angle); any boat owner can get a good feel with the hydraulic and know pretty much the angle but like Jim said, if someone else is driving, and pulling you behind the boat, they will have no idea.
I was also thinking of mounting it on the inside of my left leg and operate it with left hand; that way it's not in the middle of the floor.
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Re: Manual vs hydraulic place diverter
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2008, 08:33:01 PM »
the res is on the bottom of the pump, that being said i have nothing but probs with my hyd unit so i went manual

Oops. Didnt move the picture over far enough. My bad. :mad:

i am using a hydraulic unit and have had no problems since install 3 yrs ago=as far as knowing where you are on nozzle =i use a quick count as i push the button and with some practice i am pretty close to where i want it to be and with the hydraulic you can do alot of rooster dancing alot easier==haha

Like J.S. I have not had a problem in 4 years. I am more into the "clean" look and dont like having a handle in the way. Knowing me I would probley trip over it :screwy: I dont even have to look behind me anymore because I can tell where the diverter is just by the way the boat rides.

When I get a diverter I'm planning on going manual mainly because you'll always know where it is (other than maintenance, I think that's the main problem with hydraulic unless you install a gauge that shows the angle); any boat owner can get a good feel with the hydraulic and know pretty much the angle but like Jim said, if someone else is driving, and pulling you behind the boat, they will have no idea. I was also thinking of mounting it on the inside of my left leg and operate it with left hand; that way it's not in the middle of the floor.

I was told by the guys at Place Diverter that the gauge isnt worth a shit and dont waste my money and I am VERY picky about who drives my boat especially if I am behind it. :sly:
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Re: Manual vs hydraulic place diverter
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2008, 08:49:43 PM »
Guess you can't be too picky when you ski behind my boat, eh Bob and Tim?  >:D

Manual. Flick that sucker around quick, the hydro is slower in comparison... I had the hydro on my boat, it was cool but you're definitely gonna want to go with the pump Aggressor offers. It's much better quality.

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Re: Manual vs hydraulic place diverter
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2008, 09:38:08 PM »
Guess you can't be too picky when you ski behind my boat, eh Bob and Tim?  >:D

Manual. Flick that sucker around quick, the hydro is slower in comparison... I had the hydro on my boat, it was cool but you're definitely gonna want to go with the pump Aggressor offers. It's much better quality.

I said I was picky about who drives MY boat. I would ski behind your boat anythime because I trust you know how drive your boat. By the way, is this an offer? ;D
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Re: Manual vs hydraulic place diverter
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2008, 07:40:07 AM »
The offer has stood for a LONG time now! I contracted an old ski racer to coach me... As soon as I get back from Colorado I take him waterskiing once a week in return I get some S.H.I.T. (Special High Intensity Training) in the area of waterskiing. Looking forward to it, hopefully I'll be back to respectable before Parker....

 


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