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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2016, 03:29:11 PM »
That is the craziest diverter set-up I've ever seen, how well does it work?

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A Place Diverter would be an upgrade, but its better than nothing...maybe

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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2016, 03:31:12 PM »
I don't have anything on mine still get to about 60 how many mph will I gain when I add a plce diverter

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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2016, 03:35:12 PM »
Steves86ta, Playdoh?...really?...is that how you check oil clearances too?..how about using the proper tools to check clearances…example; feeler gauges, calipers, dial indicators, bore gauges…ect.
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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2016, 04:07:42 PM »

Well, going off a previous post of yours, and I quote, "spend as least as possible”, really doesn’t leave much on the table. I’d say on a budget, get the pump rebuilt and invest in an inducer and Place Diverter and maybe a loader, but even with those items your looking at least $2,500. If you want to play on a higher level you’re going to have to dig a little deeper in the wallet.
$2500 just for some pump work ah? Damn things add up...


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« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2016, 04:09:47 PM »

ive seen where people grind the top to get more roost

the only real downfall is if it breaks or goes out you lose steering...
I've looked to see where I could grind but it doesn't hit anything and it stops, I tried to adjust it from the inside aswell, but didn't make any difference. Assuming the motor has its up/down "limits"


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« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2016, 04:14:02 PM »

$2500 just for some pump work ah? Damn things add up...


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You can spend less. I spent just under 2k for the work done to mine and it was night and day. My impeller and bowl were good though. Machine work to impeller and new droop and diverter. Well worth the money.

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« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2016, 04:14:17 PM »
Steves86ta, Playdoh?...really?...is that how you check oil clearances too?..how about using the proper tools to check clearances…example; feeler gauges, calipers, dial indicators, bore gauges…ect.

you know Hans, theres no reason to be a dick.

hes clearly on a budget. While i agree that its not the "right" thing to do. it will get him close and tell him where his front and rear clearances are.

Obviously you cant measure the wear ring clearance with playdogh that has to be done with feeler gauges. He can use it for front and rear clearances. The truth is it will get him close enough to know if his shit is completely out of spec or not.

not everyone out there has the money or resources to go and spend a few hundred dollars on measuring devices. Especially when we dont even know if thats his issue or not.

And no thats not how i measured my oil clearances. But would it really matter anyways? Its not a completely built big block that has 10k into it. So in the eyes of many it doesnt belong in a jet boat and wont work.

But surprise, its a junkyard small block thats faster than a lot of the boats on here, including yours
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« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2016, 04:15:23 PM »
Yes it sure adds up quickly, not trying to scare you, but being truthful. I wouldn’t waste my time on that Jet-O-Vator, or Mickey Mouse anything. Purchase a real Place Diverter, that alone will be your one biggest performance improvement, besides a pump overhaul. 
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« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2016, 04:18:02 PM »
Steves86ta, Playdoh?...really?...is that how you check oil clearances too?..how about using the proper tools to check clearances…example; feeler gauges, calipers, dial indicators, bore gauges…ect.

Steve was checking impeller to bowl clearance, after fabbing up a stuffer plate, using playdoh, not checking main bearings, lol
I prefer tootsie rolls for bowl to impeller clearance.

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« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2016, 04:19:59 PM »
Okay Steve, it’s not being a dick, it’s being real….For the record I don’t have 10K in my engine, and if you have the balls to pull your “baby bottle” off come try and give me a run with your junk yard engine…
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« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2016, 04:22:06 PM »
Okay Steve, it’s not being a dick, it’s being real….For the record I don’t have 10K in my engine, and if you have the balls to pull your “baby bottle” off come try and give me a run with your junk yard engine…
sounds like to me, your afraid to run your big block against a small little junkyard engine with a small shot of nitrous

if a big block is so great, shouldt it easily destroy a shitty engine like mine?

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« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2016, 04:24:48 PM »
You are not scaring me away, I just wanna get this thing dialed in and use it to its potential, but want to do it right the first time around and not buy stuff that is not needed.

What does the diverter do? Puts the nosle further down into the water?


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« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2016, 04:26:34 PM »
You are not scaring me away, I just wanna get this thing dialed in and use it to its potential, but want to do it right the first time around and not buy stuff that is not needed.

What does the diverter do? Puts the nosle further down into the water?


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essentially the same thing your Jet-o-vator does. But a much better improved design.

check out their site. Its a great product
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« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2016, 04:35:29 PM »
You always seem to know better…Umm, lets see, your about to put together your third engine in how long?...two years?...that’s a track record I’d sure be proud of….LOL...nothing left to discuss, the owner of the boat on this thread will do what he feels necessary within his budget be it right or wrong.
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« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2016, 05:25:38 PM »

essentially the same thing your Jet-o-vator does. But a much better improved design.

check out their site. Its a great product
sounds good I will check them out. What about having the pump blue printed?



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« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2016, 05:27:40 PM »
sounds good I will check them out. What about having the pump blue printed?



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The tighter the clearances the harder the hit will be

I still say. You should pull the bowl and inspect what's there and measure what's there.

Two reasons

1. You know what it looks like when you do have it rebuilt. So you aren't surprised.

2. You may find your answer in there
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« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2016, 06:30:06 PM »

The tighter the clearances the harder the hit will be

I still say. You should pull the bowl and inspect what's there and measure what's there.

Two reasons

1. You know what it looks like when you do have it rebuilt. So you aren't surprised.

2. You may find your answer in there
how do you pull the bowl? Sorry for the dumb questions never worked on the jets before


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« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2016, 07:12:59 PM »
Hey bud, if you want to drag your boat over to my house I can help you

I have the proper tools AND I have enough spare parts to put together another place diverter. Im looking at building the shit out of my dominator and my berkley only has two seasons on it. Im sure we could work something out...You know it works!!👍


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« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2016, 07:47:01 PM »
how do you pull the bowl? Sorry for the dumb questions never worked on the jets before


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« Reply #44 on: May 19, 2016, 07:51:43 PM »
Josh sounds good brother! I'm in! Steve I live in Santa Clarita


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« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2016, 07:54:27 PM »
how do you pull the bowl? Sorry for the dumb questions never worked on the jets before


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« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2016, 07:44:26 AM »
Sounds like the pump to me I bought my Ford 460 last year just about the same specs as you did and I did the exact same thing worked fine until I put the new engine in it then had the same problem with the pump cavitating put new wear ring and powder inducer motor and stuffer pump works awesome now holeshot really hard and blows a huge rooster tail

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« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2016, 07:52:07 AM »
how do you pull the bowl? Sorry for the dumb questions never worked on the jets before


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I live in the SCV as well and if you want some additional help let me know. I've taken a few pumps apart and rebuilt them, I also have all of the special tools needed. When something doesn't come loose easily a propane torch is your best friend. I have a few spare parts. I had a jet-o-vator long ago, they're not that bad and yes it's a 70's GM electric window motor. When mine failed I went to an old school auto parts store and the old guy looks at it for a couple of seconds, 70's something Cadillac window motor, $35.

You won't have to spend $2500, with some proper direction there's plenty of guys here with used parts you could use.

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« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2016, 07:56:39 AM »
Sounds like the pump to me I bought my Ford 460 last year just about the same specs as you did and I did the exact same thing worked fine until I put the new engine in it then had the same problem with the pump cavitating put new wear ring and powder inducer motor and stuffer pump works awesome now holeshot really hard and blows a huge rooster tail

On the other hand this will cost you $2500, nice work ron.h

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« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2016, 08:05:19 AM »
I already had the Impaler so is about 1800


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