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« on: May 30, 2012, 05:15:39 PM »
I removed my Basset header water control valve.... when i removed it I ran water through the valve and water came out of the valve at both ends.... debris came out and after awhile the valve decided to close and hold water.... I had way to much water through the exhaust at idle and it was steaming. Enough water where I removed the spark plugs and found water in them  :-\. What's the proper way of testing this valve? And to fix it? I do not have a gate valve to control water flow yet. And from researching on the forum I like the idea of the dead man valve for back up for the water injection... which is something that I would have to see in person to understand how it works and how to route it. Thank you in advance if you reply cuz i know you almighty ones are sick of the noobs and their water injection problems  :)
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2012, 05:17:37 PM »
Also the oil level did not rise so no blown head gaskets yet .... just have a little streak of white on dipstick after running it... streak is now gone when checking dip stick
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2012, 05:26:21 PM »
im not as smart as some on here but sounds like u might have waterr in ur oil
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2012, 05:31:02 PM »
Water definitely got in the oil but I don't think it was much at all. If there was alot i would have milkshake. I think I will drain my 100 dollar ams oil to be safe  :mad:
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2012, 05:34:09 PM »
that sucks idk testing the tee but why not just change it
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2012, 05:40:16 PM »
im not as smart as some on here but sounds like u might have waterr in ur oil

drain the oil and put it in a pot and heat it up on a portable stove or hotplate...Get it just above 220*F and boil the water back out....No brainer, done it 100X

When we sunk a race boat I only had 3 quarts of oil left....Boiled it on the camp stove and ran it through a paper towel and poof...12 quarts of brand new oil..Sort of. :-\

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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2012, 05:42:42 PM »
you know GT i never thought of doing that!!!
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2012, 05:52:07 PM »
you know GT i never thought of doing that!!!


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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2012, 06:05:30 PM »

In my best "grandad" voice with a cigarette hanging out of my mouth....  "if a day goes by and you learn nothing, I hope like hell you got a lot of sleep".... :thumbup:

And that quote is stolen

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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2012, 06:14:06 PM »
lol thats awesome!  ;D hey GT you gonna make it out this fathers day weekend????
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2012, 06:19:10 PM »
lol thats awesome!  ;D hey GT you gonna make it out this fathers day weekend????

Well..........I promised my daughter with the 4.26 GPA and graduating High school next week that I would take her to Disneyland next month...Guess what weekend she had in mind? Daddy's girl for sure.   8)

Going to go to Burley Idaho for the Idaho Regatta though...Counts as boat stuff... :sly:

We'll get together this year....Not going to promise, but the next best thing.  ;)
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2012, 06:39:18 PM »
sounds like fun cant wait till my girls are old enough to take them to disneyland!
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2012, 06:49:47 PM »
drain the oil and put it in a pot and heat it up on a portable stove or hotplate...Get it just above 220*F and boil the water back out....No brainer, done it 100X

When we sunk a race boat I only had 3 quarts of oil left....Boiled it on the camp stove and ran it through a paper towel and poof...12 quarts of brand new oil..Sort of. :-\

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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2012, 07:19:47 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2012, 12:06:27 PM »
here is replacement for inside basset tee maybe this helps

http://shopping.rexmar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=headervalvetee

thank you for the link, so i ended up cleaning the valve, took it apart and found a nice little stick jamming the ball up. i took off the rubber seal and i submerged the tee, spring, and ball in gasoline and wire brushed everything. the valve looks brand new so hopefully it will work. so is there any type of screen filter i could put inline before the tee valve to help prevent the t valve geting stuck with debris? like a small stick.im not sure putting it inline after the "thermostat" housing would be a good idea tho. what do you think?  also these shutoff valves for the water injection you guys run near the drivers seat, you run water lines all the way up ? if you do it hides well? i wonder if i could some how make a shut off valve  mounted to my motor near the throttle cable and thermostat. using  the carb linkage to acuate the valve, run a metal linkage from carb linkage  to the valve so when at idle the valve
is shut and off idle the valve begans to open? crazy thought  maybe   :o
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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2012, 12:21:56 PM »
thank you for the link, so i ended up cleaning the valve, took it apart and found a nice little stick jamming the ball up. i took off the rubber seal and i submerged the tee, spring, and ball in gasoline and wire brushed everything. the valve looks brand new so hopefully it will work. so is there any type of screen filter i could put inline before the tee valve to help prevent the t valve geting stuck with debris? like a small stick.im not sure putting it inline after the "thermostat" housing would be a good idea tho. what do you think?  also these shutoff valves for the water injection you guys run near the drivers seat, you run water lines all the way up ? if you do it hides well? i wonder if i could some how make a shut off valve  mounted to my motor near the throttle cable and thermostat. using  the carb linkage to acuate the valve, run a metal linkage from carb linkage  to the valve so when at idle the valve
is shut and off idle the valve begans to open? crazy thought  maybe   :o


Been using these for years, just for the header water... ;)  http://webcat.rhfs.com/familydetails.aspx?FamID=2413
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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2012, 12:44:49 PM »

Been using these for years, just for the header water... ;)  http://webcat.rhfs.com/familydetails.aspx?FamID=2413

Glenn do you know if those are available with pushlok barbs on them ???? thanks Gord
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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2012, 12:55:03 PM »
Glenn do you know if those are available with pushlok barbs on them ???? thanks Gord

Push-lok is a Parker brand name, I believe there are only standard barb fittings...You may be able to find a threaded one with female NPT threads and add some Push Lok fittings...I would be willing to bet that is doable.  ;)
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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2012, 12:56:10 PM »
 :) perfect thanks GT.., where is this installed on your boat? after thermostat before tee valve or line after gate valve?
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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2012, 12:59:59 PM »
:) perfect thanks GT.., where is this installed on your boat? after thermostat before tee valve or line after gate valve?

You think I want to give away all my secrets?    :sly:

It is actually mounted inside the stringer just before the Bassett Tee... ;)
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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2012, 01:05:22 PM »
 i was afraid you were going to say that, but once again thank you for the little secret    :beer:
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« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2012, 02:06:14 AM »
Thats pretty cool glen.... BUT i am a fan of "kiss" i was taught to pull the valve apart at the start of the season and clean the bitch. And everytime i hammer down look back "If she aint steamin' it aint workin'' and then when  you come off the throttle " if its steamin still it still aint workin''! I have only had one issue with the damn t-valve and it was on my first boat and thats only because i launched her early season without preseason prep and the tee was stuck open. So my point being is clean her out and replace the ball and spring every other season
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« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2012, 08:19:06 AM »
Thats pretty cool glen.... BUT i am a fan of "kiss" i was taught to pull the valve apart at the start of the season and clean the bitch. And everytime i hammer down look back "If she aint steamin' it aint workin'' and then when  you come off the throttle " if its steamin still it still aint workin''! I have only had one issue with the damn t-valve and it was on my first boat and thats only because i launched her early season without preseason prep and the tee was stuck open. So my point being is clean her out and replace the ball and spring every other season

I like it..

However, when you boat in the Northwest in the spring on either a river or lakes (Shasta for example) there is an absolute ton of crap in the water...Like they say, "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure".. ;)

How the hell you been? Haven't seen you much on here lately.
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« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2012, 09:23:38 PM »
thank you for the link, so i ended up cleaning the valve, took it apart and found a nice little stick jamming the ball up. i took off the rubber seal and i submerged the tee, spring, and ball in gasoline and wire brushed everything. the valve looks brand new so hopefully it will work. so is there any type of screen filter i could put inline before the tee valve to help prevent the t valve geting stuck with debris? like a small stick.im not sure putting it inline after the "thermostat" housing would be a good idea tho. what do you think?  also these shutoff valves for the water injection you guys run near the drivers seat, you run water lines all the way up ? if you do it hides well? i wonder if i could some how make a shut off valve  mounted to my motor near the throttle cable and thermostat. using  the carb linkage to acuate the valve, run a metal linkage from carb linkage  to the valve so when at idle the valve
is shut and off idle the valve begans to open? crazy thought  maybe   :o
This is the way my boat used to be. When I got it, the shop I took it to said just put a Basset tee on it.
Like Daniel said, Keep It Simple.

As for the shut off valve, I have just a ball valve coming off the t-stat housing. If you want to have the valve by the driver seat and hide the lines, you could run the hose under the seat box with some modification. Or
you could run them along the gunnel (there should be some space between the seats and the hull) and just find a good place to mount the valve

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« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2012, 07:01:20 PM »
Cool thanks Dave.... Im goin to put the shut off valve after the thermostat
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