Author Topic: Any body seen the accident yesterday july 11th (Read 2728 times)

79charger · « **on:** July 12, 2009, 01:43:50 PM »

Was wondering if anyone saw the accident yesterday near the ca. side . At approx 3:30 . two boats collided. one boat were people we know any info would be great .

IRRebel · « **Reply #1 on:** July 12, 2009, 07:48:21 PM »

Cali side of what? (Didn't see it anyway, but thought that MIGHT be an important piece of information?)

Ray

79charger · « **Reply #2 on:** July 12, 2009, 08:08:18 PM »

Lake Havasu , the people we know have a 23 foot warlock collided with another bigger boat All 6 were ejected on the people we know boat and the driver of the other boat was killed . Thats all the info we know everyone is at havasu memorial hospital

flytime · « **Reply #3 on:** July 12, 2009, 09:04:59 PM »

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Hmm...that didnt work too good

flytime · « **Reply #4 on:** July 12, 2009, 09:07:29 PM »

Taken from Havasunews.com

Divers recover body of boater missing on Lake Havasu following crash
Two-boat accident injures 6 others

Staff Reports
Saturday, July 11, 2009 6:06 PM MST

Rescue divers recovered the body of a boater missing on Lake Havasu after a two-boat collision Saturday.

The recovery was announced at 6:01 p.m. Location was not specified.

The accident occurred near Blankenship Bend at about 3:30 p.m. Six people were reported injured in the crash along with the one missing boater.

The missing boater had reportedly been under water approximately 15 minutes at the time of the call.

Deputies from Mohave County and San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Offices, along with Lake Havasu City Fire Department personnel, transported the six injured boaters to the north Windsor Beach launch ramp where they were treated by paramedics from the Havasu Fire and River Medical Ambulance Service, before being transported to Havasu Regional Medical Center.

None of the injuries were considered to be life threatening injuries.

Both boats were reportedly sinking when deputies arrived at the scene of the accident.

MORBEER · « **Reply #5 on:** July 12, 2009, 10:11:50 PM »

hate hearing about stuff like that!

IRRebel · « **Reply #6 on:** July 12, 2009, 11:38:27 PM »

Quote from: MORBEER on July 12, 2009, 10:11:50 PM

hate hearing about stuff like that!

Yeah it is! Always sad to hear of someone losing their life just having a little fun.

Ray

79charger · « **Reply #7 on:** July 13, 2009, 08:45:04 PM »

the fatality was a 23 yr old male from moreno valley named David Kerber . Looks like he was driving a Flat bottom or mini day .From what i heard from friends is that 2 boats racing or just both wide open tryed to split the warlock the people we knows boat and for some reason the warlock tryed to turn out of being split , spun out and then the boat hit the side of the warlock at a high rate of speed on the side near the motor..and ejected everyone out of the warlock . .......makes me sick that it could happen to any one of us , boats dont have brakes or any protection so lets be safe out there . I dont think any body should be splitting anyone at a high rate of speed

OC2Vegas · « **Reply #8 on:** July 13, 2009, 08:50:57 PM »

Quote from: 79charger on July 13, 2009, 08:45:04 PM

I dont think any body should be splitting anyone at a high rate of speed

x2 and very illegal!

MORBEER · « **Reply #9 on:** July 13, 2009, 09:00:52 PM »

Not only do you have to be aware of what youre doing, you have to be aware of what everyone else is doing.

IRRebel · « **Reply #10 on:** July 13, 2009, 10:46:12 PM »

X3.

My 14 year old son (Driving my old Beezer that burned and sank) Chewed a guys ass off at Bartlett Lake for cutting him off (I guess pretty blatently) sounds something like what you describe happened. (Guy was pulling a tube and was oblivious to what was going on around him)

RJ was smart enough to know that if you drop the reverse bucket and stand on it, the boat WILL stop and damn near immediately! I rolled in to see this guy standing on his swim deck of his like 26' Bayliner 20feet away screaming at my son (My son started the screaming match, not unfounded, I found out later, (My boy, call the fokker out! couldn't be prouder!)) When I rolled in, My 90 pound son was standing on the drivers seat and all I heard from him was " Oh Yeah cumcatcher?, come on over here and I'll tear you a few new assholes retard") Direct Quote as I recall.

I Immediately tied off to the ol' Beezer and climbed outta the Moo onto the Beezer deck ready to swim over and beat the guy to death (I'm a little guy but I was pissed) when he sped away.

We have to wonder why licensing is not required on waterways............I Still don't know exactly what happened, but 3 of my friends were in the boat when it did and said they were there to back RJ up. One said he was gonna address it but RJ said let me handle this...

I'm so proud......)

I've done stupid newbie stuff, Keith, Nordie and Terry can attest, we all have. But own up to them. Sounds to me like a bunch of stupid errors here that ended someones life. We're smarter than that. I can very be proud that my son is not only aware of what he's doing and being polite, cosiderate, and giving wide berth driving a boat, but he's aware of what every other idiot is doing around him, and watching the wakes.

(How many of US know that by lifting, drop the reverse bucket, and stand on it, the boat will stop nearly within it's own length??)
Had my son not known that, and I was not around, nor was anyone else in the boat familiar with protocol or jet boats at all, I guess the Bayliner woulda been cut in half basically.

Sorry to hear about the man who lost his life in that little "infraction". But it sounds to me like the operator of the boat that was hit didn't know what the hell was going on and simply reacted. The driver of the boat that was HIT though will have to reconcile that with himself that he did nothing wrong. And he did nothing wrong!

Ray

Toes on the Nose · « **Reply #11 on:** July 14, 2009, 07:10:03 PM »

I was at the local barber shop here and was talkin to my barber..... she asked if i knew about the accident... turns out the guy that died..... his dad is one of her customers. He works inthe personnel dept at Torrance P.D...... apparently, this guy is getting ready to retire but now he has to bury his son first..... Sad.... really sad

Let's stay safe out there!!

Danny

Luckie Stiff · « **Reply #12 on:** July 14, 2009, 07:30:37 PM »

Quote from: IRRebel on July 13, 2009, 10:46:12 PM

1.My 14 year old son

2.RJ was smart enough to know that if you drop the reverse bucket and stand on it, the boat WILL stop and damn near immediately! I

3.We have to wonder why licensing is not required on waterways.

4.(How many of US know that by lifting, drop the reverse bucket, and stand on it, the boat will stop nearly within it's own length??)

Ray, not trying to be a dick but please read my responses to the parts of your post I quoted above.

1. WTF was your (or anyone's) 14 YO son doing driving a 4000 pound powerboat? Totally irresponsible on your part.

2. You're damn lucky that it actually worked for the kid that time.

3. B/C if licensing was required to drive a boat, boat sales would drop, as would boat related recreation, too much money to be had on the tax end of the deal. On the other hand, if it was that way, maybe your son wouldn't have been driving the boat.

4. Good luck with that one, you pull that shit in a low freeboard boat and you're likely to put enough water over the transom to sink the fuc-ker, I would NOT recommend this to anyone, regardless of the situation.

Don't take this as a personal attack, just pointing out some of the everyday things that "boat people" do that are totally in completely retarded.

Rant over

Still love me?

Nordie · « **Reply #13 on:** July 14, 2009, 07:43:47 PM »

I'm pretty sure most places are the same, but I believe over 12 can operate boat as long as there is one person of age....#2 boaters safety course is required for anyone born after december 31st of 03...and is recommended to all for cheaper insurance rate...I'm guilty of not taking this course, but I should...I think everyone should...especially jet skiiers they are like the ignorant streetbike riders of the streets...I see idiots all day long on the lake and you know for a fact that they are from before 83...

Luckie Stiff · « **Reply #14 on:** July 14, 2009, 07:51:11 PM »

Quote from: Nordie on July 14, 2009, 07:43:47 PM

I'm pretty sure most places are the same, but I believe over 12 can operate boat as long as there is one person of age....#2 boaters safety course is required for anyone born after december 31st of 03...and is recommended to all for cheaper insurance rate...I'm guilty of not taking this course, but I should...I think everyone should...especially jet skiiers they are like the ignorant streetbike riders of the streets...I see idiots all day long on the lake and you know for a fact that they are from before 83...

In AZ over 12 with a passenger over 18, otherwise it's limited to 8HP, regardless of what the law says, common sense should prevail. I have never heard of any type of safety course being required, for anyone wether they were born in 63 or 93, I agree with the jet skiers, they are the root of an assload of problems.

IRRebel · « **Reply #15 on:** July 14, 2009, 08:05:30 PM »

Lol, Yeah still love ya Skip! You bring up good points, but I'm not a TOTAL idiot.

When's the first time you drove a car on public highways Skip?

First, you only have to be 12 to operate a boat in Az. (And I'm all for startin' him young!)

Second, my brother was on board with him, as was an even more responsible person I view as a brother, Sergio. RJ's had some wheel time with me with him before all this. He can handle his own with the boat, I'm confident! (I was driving cars, backhoes, bulldozers, even a 15 ton dump truck! when I was 14, but that's a back east thing).

Third, The danger was presented by the OTHER boat, not my son. The danger on MY part could have been my son being involved in something catastrophic (Nothing really new to me to those of you that know me, but still unthinkable). And that was my point. And why I was pissed when I happened up on all this!

Fourth, yeah, a dangerous move to risk swamping yourself. But given the alternatives, the lesser of evils, far less violent, and everyone can get out if it goes badly. Mostly the boats ass will rise when doing this (This was on a cruiser, not on something like the Moo!) Big trick is to turn hard THEN do it on a jet boat (It will basically spin out and stop with the bow pointed towards your own wake if done right). He knows this and did just that, or so I'm told.

But Skips points are well taken and received. I guess I shoulda been more clear. But Terry will vouch for RJ's abilities and why we're going to teach him to drive the new 'Stealth" project. (gonna be HIS boat). Neither of us doubts his abilities or "fears" of him irritating another boater.

I'm not for licensing, don't get me wrong here. Obviously, according to the other posts on this matter, alcohol and "chasing poontang" had more to do with this incident than the fact that it happened on the water. Coulda happened anywhere, even on the freeway, given those ingredients.

Ray

GT Jets · « **Reply #16 on:** July 14, 2009, 08:26:53 PM »

You can stop a 19' low pro with the reverse bucket all day long without taking water over the transom, the water comes shooting over the bow if the speeds are too high though

I took my dad's Spetra out at Lake Shasta one evening just for a putt to the damn and this assclown came out of a cove (I think Bailey Cove) with a tuber on and literally cut us off by about 20' and never even saw us untill I slowed down to about 5 MPH (we were going about 45 MPH at the time), trust me the boat will slow like a MOFO with the bucket....

The great part was all 5 of us in the boat were yelling at him while flippin the bird.

GT

FORKEDUP · « **Reply #17 on:** July 15, 2009, 07:11:16 AM »

there are to many idiots on the water nowadays that have no clue what they are doing or what the "rules" of the water are. My family and I were in the no wake zone in the back of bartlett lake (a place people go to hang out and swim, cliff jump etc) we were idling back out running about 30' of the rocks (on the correct side of the lake) when some jackass comes around the corner and heads straight towards me, now i am in a 26' boat, he is in a about a 17' bayliner, i hold my line and wait for him to move the correct side and pass, nope he starts waving at me like i am in the wrong, several people on his boat join him with this, i move over just a bit and give him about 5' before he hits the rocks, the entire time he and his friends are looking at me like i am an idiot. If my kids had not been in the boat i would have turned around and there would be a few less idiots in this world

i am sorry for the loss in the above accident, hopefully it will serve some positive as well, even if it just makes everyone more aware of what is going on around them

crewchief22 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 19, 2009, 07:00:55 PM »

I just got back from 9 days on Parker and am truly amazed that there aren't more deaths on the water.

It is obvious that any knucklehead with a credit card can rent a wave runner and make everyone else a target. I couldn't count how many people I saw going the wrong way on the river (mostly jet ski/wave runners but a hand full of full size boats also).

One guy camping about 3 spaces down from us hit an anchored boat on his wave runner (I think he was trying to turn around with his eyes closed

)

Everyone needs to keep there eyes open and be aware of whats going on around them, hope everyone has a safe boating season.

fast fred · « **Reply #19 on:** July 21, 2009, 02:03:23 PM »

I was at the launch ramp when the 23' warlock was towed in by seatow and they said that the boat did infact sink. They had floties holding it up and a make shift bilge running also. As far as damage to the boat the tramsom had a big hole in it,the motor broke off the stringers and was sideways in the bilge area,engine hatch was broke off and the drivers seat was totally broke off and came out of the boat with the driver. A SDPD officer was there but he really wouldnt tell me much. The only thing i could get out of him was that the driver was ejected from the boat upon impact and the passenger was in the hospital. I asked if liquor was involved and he said he didnt know. But like what was said in the other posts above me, FLOCKERS NEED TO PAY ATTENTION AND NOT DRINK SO DAMN MUCH ON THE LAKE. Sorry for yelling.
Matt

electrowoman · « **Reply #20 on:** July 22, 2009, 06:38:41 AM »

I too am very sorry to hear of the loss. It does seem, and I'm not saying anything relating to their incident that some people go looking for trouble.

We were cruising about 45MPH down the lake when 3 lake lice came along side on our left slowly passing. Just and I mean just after getting by they cut across our bow! They were hardly 25 yards ahead when they did it.

I pulled up and gave them the finger as did my wife and the idiots tried spraying us.

Bad move, that was like bring a knife to a gun fight.

I probably should have just let them go to die another day but you know how that goes

We gave them the nozzle "full up" after going by around 62mph. I didn't give it to them in the face. I just put it close enough that they knew we could have.

Maybe they won't try spraying people again.

They turned around and left. I hope with a lesson learned.

1. Don't cut boats off
2. Don't try to spray people in a jet boat with a friken wave runner

This is a picture of my son's boat, it's identical to mine but about 150HP short till next season.
I don't think I would want to ride into that water blast