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Videos ( / Completed 1976 Rogers
« on: September 07, 2019, 07:48:59 PM »
Started the project fall of 2018 460 BB Ford, 478 hp Britco Racing Engines pump gas  Toni Skagen pump. New interior replaced the wiring touched up the paint. I have a video I was also going to post of the boat at speed. The MP4 format would not load on this web site, I tried, sorry.

Jet Pumps / Re: Driveline Grenaded
« on: July 03, 2019, 05:12:16 PM »
I think that has to be an alignment/geometry issue. Especially the way it recurs in a predictable number of hours.
Could also be a very out of balance issue? The quality or the replacement U-Joint.  Maybe grease more often? Also what was the condition of the needles in the u-joint caps?

Engine Mechanical / Electrical / Re: Ford Rebuild Disappointment
« on: June 28, 2019, 08:50:19 PM »
I have about 6 hours run time including the dyno break-in. on my 460 Ford. So I changed the oil and sent a sample to Blackstone Labs for analysis. Everything looked good according to them considering it's new and metal is shed as parts lap together.  I have a full roller solid lift cam of 600 lift, with a 30 over block with 9.5 forged pistons. I pulled all the plugs to roll her over easier and after the valve adjustment which was really close; I did a cold, carb zip tied open, compression test. Cylinder 1. 160 lbs. 2. 155 lbs. 3. 157lbs. 4. 160lbs. 5. 155lbs. 6. 156lbs. 7. 157lbs. 8. 155lbs. My engine builder saw the oil sample readings and pressures and says it's a good engine. I'm wondering why your cylinders would be so low?
I'm running 31 degrees total advance as recommended by the builder and a 850 Double pumper at 6psi pressure. NGK V Power-7-R 5673-7 plugs gapped at 30 thousands. She is a tad rich although I would rather be a bit rich than lean. I have a new MSD ignition with Bassett headers with the inserts installed. Mine runs strong to the rev limiters 5500 cut off.

If it were mine I would take both heads to a competent machine shop and have the valves and guides checked. I have been building/racing since the 60's and have never stuck a valve in Bronze Maganize guides, which is what I run. The only shops who work on my machines depending on their back log are. "Katech" Parts only "Lingenfelter" (206) 727-2552 IN.  My LS7 heads were done by "West Coast Racing Heads" CA (818)705 5454. Whoever did the heads may have not honed the guides enough. I have seen others who stuck a valve because of not enough clearance. However, that occurred when the engine was hot. The previous owner obviously rolled the engine over five if not more complete cycles to have five stuck valves.  As you stated you rolled her over therefore depending on the valve relief in the pistons; the valves may have very likely come into contact with the pistons. Personally, I would rebuild both heads replacing the valves and guides for safety. Break or stick a valve @ 5k or better and you will likely be replacing the entire engine.
As far as timing, one could always take a felt pen and mark where the distributor was "Or" if you didn't; when you feel the valve issue has been addressed to your satisfaction. With the valve cover off and plugs out install a socket to the crankshaft bolt. Roll the engine over in the correct rotation until the intake valve on the #1 cylinder opens and closes. Look for TDC on the crankshaft dampener and if it is at or near TDC that will be TDC on #1 cylinder. Install the distributor and wire in the firing order, following the correct rotation. (if it previously ran and if you didn't change anything on the distributor cap it should be correct) It has always been close enough to fire, I always have my timing light and the open end/distributor wrench ready for the bolt holding the distributor. 

Jet Pumps / Re: Replacement diverter pump motor
« on: June 11, 2019, 09:41:10 PM »
Does anyone know if there is an aftermarket motor that will work with my place diverter hydraulic pump so that I donít have to replace the whole thing?
Since your in WA might want to contact Toni Skagen Premier Pump builder in WA. He's busy and suggested text would yield quicker results.
253 939-8733 or 253 335-0532

Boats For Sale / Re: 2008 Ultra 22 Stealth
« on: June 04, 2019, 10:41:44 PM »
Itís hard to fit all the kids and wakeboards and tubes and crap in it. We are leaning towards a wake board boat. I know I never thought I would say it but for us right now it makes sense. Iím sure Iíll regret it☹️

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I can see where that boat wouldn't be so good with kids and boards. Wished I had a spare 47k laying around; That is really nice...

Boats For Sale / Re: 2008 Ultra 22 Stealth
« on: June 03, 2019, 07:50:26 PM »
That is Awesome, someone will be really lucky to take her home. Out of curiosity what direction are you going? I got out of Hot Rod boats 20 years ago. Then sold the cruiser and got back into it...

Projects / Re: 1976 Rogers Winter Project Completed
« on: June 03, 2019, 07:38:47 PM »
Sweet bro , glad u got all the issues sorted out and got her wet . Take the wife out again but let her drive . Thatís what I did with my wife an all good now lol

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Thank You, I have been promising not to run the boat so hard next time, at least with her in it. (she doesn't believe me) I got her a special large pair of glasses so she can see. I'm not sure she would run the boat, she did with the cruiser; however, that was a totally different situation.

Projects / Re: 1976 Rogers Winter Project Completed
« on: June 02, 2019, 09:59:16 PM »
Gorgeous!! I'm very glad that you stuck with it and got her back together and that it is running good. Should be good to go for a long time now I hope ya hold on to it

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Thank You, I really like the boat, said after the last V-Drive I was done with Hot Rod boats. Then you look in the mirror and wonder who that old dude is. So not going the route of some of my friends, (younger woman yikes) I went back to my younger days with the I thought I grew outa that stage stuff...

Projects / 1976 Rogers Winter Project Completed
« on: June 01, 2019, 06:40:17 PM »
That was a long stressful 7 months of chasing waiting working. Lake tested twice and she works well. 460 Ford block checked for cracks and pressure tested built by Britco Racing engines a reputable local shop. To shorten the build, everything new and forged with pump gas friendly 9.5 compression, full roller solid lift cam and rockers. Air gap manifold and Brawler 850 double pumper. She was broken in on their dyno with my boat headers and made. 472.6 @ 5400 and 553.3 lb. ft. @4000rpm, on pump gas. Hassler's custom paint repaired the dock rash. Longview upholstery did the seats. Skagen Marine did a complete rebuild of the pump with a new A impeller. I had the pump cover powder coated black. New wheel bearings fixed the wiring problems with solder/shrink tubing no crimp connectors. Wife went on the first lake test and I got a little wild, so wife sat out second lake test bummer. We have been together for 34 or 35 years I have forgotten for sure but I have ordered a new Nitro "weed wacker" bass boat. (actually, the 2019 are four cycle) I guess I may have two boats, after the work and money I don't want to part with my Hot Rod Boat; but going alone isn't much fun either...

Jet Pumps / Re: Ohio ready
« on: May 25, 2019, 11:57:47 AM »
Well we are getting close out here in Ohio for the good boating weather. I bought this boat in October and brought it home with boat on trailer and 2-pick up trucks full of crap. Some one started something and didnít finish it. So I did. Got it out on the water yesterday because I new it ran but hell I didnít no if it would float...LOL... it did float and I was really happy with its performance. Itís a solid 80 mph boat with no spray. And I donít think Iím going to spray it. Iím happy right weíre itís at.

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Your boat looks good I also bought my boat last October and have been rebuilding her since. Might want to check the pump, Good Luck...

Jet Pumps / Re: Drop Snoot Advice
« on: May 22, 2019, 08:12:38 PM »
Yes  the ride plate is like an extension of the pump intake that sticks past the transom ur on the rite track. On my boat I tried wedges, nozzle angle, etc.... to get it  ride a lol drier it took installing a ride plate to get the boat out the water a bit. Everything improved after that. Fuel consumption and mph.
Much appreciated, I don't mind chasing an outcome when one has enough knowledge to go in the right direction. Thank You...

WarZone / Re: (not so) new member
« on: May 21, 2019, 08:35:16 PM »
Looks good except how does it ride... ;)

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The picture of Millerkillers boat is inverted. Yours looks fine...

Jet Pumps / Re: Drop Snoot Advice
« on: May 21, 2019, 11:00:45 AM »
Without a ride plate  you might feel like youíre dragging the pump and boat will ride really flat. When the boat rides flat it doesnít load the pump properly. Forgot to ask if you have a loader or not. But that will help with keep the pump loaded. There are all different  types of loader depending on hp, hull type etc.....
It has an aftermarket loader, on CP Performance Marine's web site it's listed as a super-sport for mildly modified engines. When you refer to ride plate, is that the appendage that looks like it's attached under the transom and under/supporting the pump?
The boats that I have seen that attachment on are the higher HP faster boats. The part that's unclear and I understand trim from the foot/ratchet controlled cavitation plate on my Flat Bottom to the trim on the engine on an IO. To make speed on the boats I'm familiar with one needs to "Fly" the boat. (that's what we called it) So the Rogers has an aftermarket drop snoot lowering the water thrust below the hull. Then the 4 degree thick side down aims the angle of the snoot upward and that is the purpose. That would seem to have been able to be accomplished without the wedge because the aftermarket snoot has a ratchet controlled shifter similar to the one in my flattie. With four adjustments one can go through the range of angles from up from the center, to down. So what I'm gathering is I will need to experiment at the lake with different adjustments and find what best suites my hull/fuel load/weight of engine/occupants? Other words there is no generic setting just a starting point?
I appreciate your help, I have been into boating since the seventies, although they were flat bottom V-Drive or IO, and some hotter OB's.
I went pump this time because due to water shortages the lake has been to low over the years to safely use a boat with a prop. I figured since nothing is below the hull I could enjoy the local lake without the fear of grounding out, which has taken place more than once.
Thank You Again, All Help Is Appreciated...

Jet Pumps / Re: Drop Snoot Advice
« on: May 20, 2019, 10:43:26 PM »
Buy a few extra gaskets and try it  both ways. Which way was it wedged? My boat has a droop and is wedged downwards. I'm runnin low 90's but just had some pump work done and I think I'm gonna try flipping my wedge are so it is wedged up and see what that does 🤷‍♂️ and If it doesnt ride good then back in will just put it back to how it was. Gaskets are super cheap. And only a little bit of time to take the bolts out and flip it back or take completely out. I would just play with it and see which way you like it best

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Mine is a 4 degree wedged up or thick side down. The best it would do last fall at 5200rpm was a GPS indicated 75 mph. Didn't matter if I moved the shift handle that controls the nozzle up or down; wouldn't go any faster. I don't remember if the nozzle was all the way up or all the way down; however, at the maximum nozzle travel, the boat got kinda squirrelly. Just don't remember which extreme it was...

Jet Pumps / Re: Drop Snoot Advice
« on: May 20, 2019, 10:33:02 PM »
Do you have a ride plate? If not and youíre trying to get the most mph out of her wedge it up so the boat rides dry. Be careful of the material on the bowl where the droop is bolted itís cast aluminum and can cross thread easily and be  a bad deal. I
Thanks, it's too late for saving the cast aluminum. Someone wallowed just about every hole then installed at different depths and angles "Heli Coil" treads. I'm amazed at what some call fixed. I'm thinking to remove the screwed up mess redrill the next size larger and get them the same depth and straight.
There is no ride plate, but there is a ratchet lever to adjust the nozzle.

V-Drives / Re: mouzer retired end of a era
« on: May 20, 2019, 02:09:34 PM »
well i did retire from boat shit...sold  my dually and my flattie and my motor and most of my parts.missed new years day at elsinore just because..never missed last five yrs..still selling the last v drive stuff........i now drive a suv.......that lasted a few weeks so far......but i did get my mouzer1 plates on the suv and now i ordered all my boat stickers for the windows now im looking at a v-drive tunnell hull less motor...its a fricken sickness..why cant i just walk away...... :mad: :screwy: :screwy:

I'm 68 going on 18 so I'm told by my wife of 36 years. It's in one's DNA, plain and simple.

Jet Pumps / Re: What impeller ?
« on: May 20, 2019, 01:41:10 PM »
Well... My dream was to run 90..i know Ive probably lost my mind.. Thats what i hear for other half anyway.. Im beginning to realize its not gonna happen with this motor.. Ugh
I like the old school v8 sound/ trying to stay away from buying a weed wacker.
Ill have to search for someone running same boat/bottom and start over i guess.. Know anyone running 85-90 with one... Thanks

I got a laugh out of your "Weed Wacker" comment. I would assume you are referring to an OB? I haven't lake tested my new set up yet as it's still not finished. My old now sold 460 made over 600 hp on the dyno. (with two qts of Torco booster @ $22.00 per qt) With an "A" impeller did an indicated 75 on GPS at 5200rpm.
My new pump gas friendly 460 9.5 compression, forged internals, solid roller cam made 472.6 @ 5400 and 553.3 lb. ft. @ 4000 rpm with an air gap manifold and 850 double pumper. It will likely not go faster, as the rebuilt pump has a new "A" impeller; Couple hundred more rpm.

Boat Insurance - Nikki Bostick / Re: Insurance
« on: May 20, 2019, 12:50:47 PM »
Overboard building a boat? Is that possible  :screwy: thanks for the quick response
It is not only possible but likely when one fixes something one finds other things that could be fixed/improved. I have restored boats and cars in the past only to tally up the cost and realize that I could have purchased new, lol. (after the last Corvette and Schiada) I swore never again.
Guess I'm a slow learner because my 1976 Rogers advertised as "Completely" rebuilt ROTFLMAO; I now, not counting the cost of the boat an additional 15k likely more not counting my labor. Guess my labor doesn't count...

Boat Insurance - Nikki Bostick / My SAFECO insurance experience
« on: May 20, 2019, 12:40:30 PM »
I have full coverage, agreed upon for the actual hull and motor. (15K) In addition $1500.00 for unattached equipment $100.00 deductible. Trailer is custom and has $5k,  personal effects emergency assistance, (not sure if that's when your sinking or stranded)  liability limit at $500,000.00 which includes bodily injury and property damage including fuel spill and wreckage removal. Roadside assistance and additional fishing equipment/captains package endorsement.
This policy is written through Safeco which covers my vehicles home and life. My age 68 "Yikes" (how did that happen) and clean driving record for over 20 years; could be the reason I am able to get full coverage at less than $400.00 per year.

Jet Pumps / Drop Snoot Advice
« on: May 20, 2019, 12:27:00 PM »
OK, the pump is completely rebuilt, bearings packing wear ring "A" impeller, SS loader; The boat came with a Drop Snoot, (I think that's correct spelling) but you get the point. So the boat with the old motor which on the dyno makes 600+ hp and over 600 lb. ft. torque; Had a 4-degree wedge. So my new pump gas friendly motor on the dyno. 472.6 hp @ 5400 and 553.3 lb. ft. @ 4000 rpm.
When I lake tested the boat before the rebuild she did 75 mph @ 5200 rpm with the wedge installed worn A impeller GPS indicated.
So the question "Wedge" or No "Wedge." I know go test her. That takes time and money and a wasted day at the lake, therefore I'm open to suggestions. I have had many boats from V-Drive to IO, this is my first and definitely last pump boat, lol...

Boat Showcase / Re: My Latest
« on: May 17, 2019, 10:25:34 PM »
VERY nice boat !!
 enjoy it!!
 Take care of her... as I did for the last ten years .
 My wife and I built and loved that boat in the Vancouver area for the past ten years . Its a great boat . kinda chokes me up to see it in someone else's garage .  :banghead:
 ask me anything you want to know about the boat .
 the guy that flipped (resold ) the boat inside a year pisses me off . don't know why he messed with the motor or pump . boat was goin just shy of 90 mph when I sold it. enjoy (Attachment Link)
Guess I should check my posts more often, so you are the one who rebuilt her? Paint is awesome although the motor had a blown head gasket and pump was worn out. Looked like whipping cream in the valve train when I removed the valve covers. Skagen Marine just finished the pump which was worn about through the wear ring, impeller chipped and pitted, thrust bearing worn out.  I had been attempting to contact the seller who never provided my the paperwork like promised. I rebuilt the original engine converting it to a street motor and got 3k out of her. Then started over with a different block and went forged everything including pistons which are 9.5. Full roller solid lift cam roller rockers.  With 9.5 compression and pump gas friendly, she made 553 lb ft @ 4k. and 472 @ 5400 rpm on the dyno. (Britco Racing Engines)
Longview upholstery did the seats and Hassler custom paint fixed the dock rash. No bump strip is pretty, but scary when docking.
I have it sorted out now just rebuilt the whole thing, the more I checked the more I found wrong. The trailer plug wasn't even wired correctly. The kid said it needed a converter, wrong, just needed to be wired at the plug correctly, lol.
My woman of 36 years doesn't like fast boats and only rode once last summer. I'm taking my time assembling her but likely will advertise it for sale, as I ordered a New Nitro Bass Boat.  PM Sent.

WarZone / Re: (not so) new member
« on: May 17, 2019, 09:57:13 PM »
hi everyone,
just purchased my 'forever' boat last weekend out of Boise Idaho, from the son of the original owner. It's a 1979 Hallett 19' Bubbbledeck c/w 454ci 333hp Berkeley 12JC pump all original (unmolested). She was purchased @ ETCO Marine in Visalia CA in '79' and I have the original invoice. The son inherited the boat 2 years ago and confessed 'he's just not into it', even though growing up skiing behind it   :-\ ??
Well... I am so proud to be the 'next' owner!!
The pump was rebuilt in 2012 at Champion Marine, Canoga Park, CA (i have that invoice too). Now I have to 'shake her down' in the next few weeks, as the son has not got her wet since 2017.
This is like a 'barn find' to me and I feel blessed!
Here's a couple picture from the drive home @ Massacre Rocks State Park, ID.
(formerly)  MID-LAKE-CRISIS   8)


Awesome find, Enjoy...

WarZone / Re: (not so) new member
« on: May 17, 2019, 09:53:45 PM »
Here it is

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Looks good except how does it ride... ;)

Jet Pumps / Re: How does on tell if the pump needs rebuilding
« on: May 16, 2019, 07:45:00 PM »
08chevyguy Thanks, I love the boat she does not. I had a flat bottom V-Drive when we meet. She hated that boat so I sold it years ago and bought a cruiser. Since my offshore boating skills are akin to Gilligans we never did the sail into the sunset as we planned back in the '80s. So I sold the cruiser to folks who have the same dream we once had (hope their skills are better than mine) and bought the Rogers last year. Getting old sucks, you attempt to relive the past, only now she isn't as tolerant as 36 or so yrs ago, lol...

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