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« on: October 02, 2007, 08:29:44 PM »
This is a partial resto of a 16' tahiti in progress Tom



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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2007, 09:25:42 PM »
Now is the time of year you should be swamped with work.  Ya can't run em so you may as well work on em!!  :D  I'm just about to the point where there aren't going to be many more days to get out on the water and the close that time gets the more I play with what I've got.  YA HEAR THAT YA'ALL  call it your Christmas present to yourself! 
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2007, 09:32:43 PM »
Someone must really like that Tahiti.
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2007, 09:43:39 AM »
Someone must really like that Tahiti.

lmoa !! An old car business guy once told me "theres an a$$ for every seat"  (refering to a car deal) this little boats in pretty good shape ,it ought to clean up real well Tom

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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2007, 10:27:12 AM »
Got a funny looking windshield!!  :D 
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2007, 11:48:21 AM »
We had a lot of fun in my buddy's Tahiti 16 back in the early 80's. :)


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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2007, 01:21:32 PM »
We had a lot of fun in my buddy's Tahiti 16 back in the early 80's. :)



Old Squirt Nice boat! ..after a few year "hiatus from boats in the mid eighties I bought one similar to that ,its what got me back in to Jets (Mine was a converted outboat) very fast (or so it seemed) lol ...Tom

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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2007, 01:56:28 PM »
that hull is a direct replica of the 16' wriedt stinger we have been working on....i have seen a picture of a tahiti that is just like that one (and the wriedt), but it was an outboard.

anyone know the relation between tahiti/wriedt with this hull? who splashed who? maybe oldrigger will chime in.
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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2007, 03:04:57 PM »
They all stem from Tahiti. Schuster and Gil Gaska tooled up the deck on a Glastron hull in 1964. Jerry Wriedt's shop was on the same street as Tahiti, Weiman, Howard and a few others back in the day. He actually had a shop before Schuster opened Tahiti, but he was a V-drive guy then. Schuster and Gaska worked at Powercat, they were on the same street too, but that was in 1960-1 or so, a few years before Tahiti.

Here's one of Jerrys flatties on craigslist right now. I can remember my dad telling me that Jerry would rig now and then at tahiti even though he had his own shop. There were too many orders and not enough riggers/laminators back then. lol

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/436942852.html
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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2007, 03:22:30 PM »
And before them was David F. Miller.  David F. Miller the originator of Miller Boats, started off his career by working for Northrop Aviation during WWII, building wind tunnel models. Obviously his work was Top Secret! All his models had to be built to exacting measurements out of wood. Needless to say, he was extremely accurate. After the war ended, he went back to customizing cars. In 1952 he started building all wood flatbottom ski boats utilizing the latest boat tech (v-drives). His experience with aviation designs helped put him ahead of everyone. He was the first boat builder to utilize "Afterplane" in his bottom design and built the first boat to exceed 100 mph in the 1/4 mile on gas and carburetors in 1959. Keep in mind, back in 1959 engines were much smaller, the engine used for this world record was under 400 HP.  Needless to say, Everyone in the boat business back then, copied David's concepts and design. But one thing they couldn't copy was his skill with wood.  This was copied from John Miller, David Miller's son's web site.

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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2007, 03:44:35 PM »
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Very cool post GAWnCA! I love that look of that bow in the upper right corner of the page!  :o
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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2007, 03:49:02 PM »
And with all due respect to Miller, before him was Rich Hallett and Fred Wickens who more than any one are responsible for bridging the gap between the wood 'Chris Craft/ Hacker' style of boat, both Wickens and Hallett built in the 1930's, and what the boats evolved into post WWII and into the 50's...long before David Miller entered the picture.

The boat in question in this thread is the 16 foot Tahiti style of boat, nothing to do with Miller. You want to bring other builders into the mix, start another thread.

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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2007, 04:06:30 PM »
And with all due respect to Miller, before him was Rich Hallett and Fred Wickens who more than any one are responsible for bridging the gap between the wood 'Chris Craft/ Hacker' style of boat, both Wickens and Hallett built in the 1930's, and what the boats evolved into post WWII and into the 50's...long before David Miller entered the picture.

The boat in question in this thread is the 16 foot Tahiti style of boat, nothing to do with Miller. You want to bring other builders into the mix, start another thread.

You just HATE it when someone shows the real history, don't you.  How about showing the guys history that you mentioned.  With all due respect, how is it that Miller held all the speed records if these guys you mention are so world renowned?  They may have been there in the beginning but who's name shines? 
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« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2007, 04:07:17 PM »
Very cool post GAWnCA! I love that look of that bow in the upper right corner of the page!  :o

Ain't that cool.  I wonder what that would cost today?
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« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2007, 04:12:12 PM »
You just HATE it when someone shows the real history, don't you.  How about showing the guys history that you mentioned.  With all due respect, how is it that Miller held all the speed records if these guys you mention are so world renowned?  They may have been there in the beginning but who's name shines? 

I think you missed the subject of this thread.....i do believe we are talking about tahiti's and their history and relations to other boats (splashes/copies/etc). Not the history of boat building in general.

What you posted was so far in left field to this topic. Yes, it was cool information, but irrelevant to the subject at hand.

Please keep toms thread on subject.

Edit: the argument has been split off to here: http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php/topic,1786.0.html
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« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2007, 04:20:13 PM »
I think you missed the subject of this thread.....i do believe we are talking about tahiti's and their history and relations to other boats (splashes/copies/etc). Not the history of boat building in general.

What you posted was so far in left field to this topic. Yes, it was cool information, but irrelevant to the subject at hand.

Please keep toms thread on subject.

Sorry about that Brad.  Back OT.

Tom does some really good work and his PR is one of the best around.  Need a question answered you can call and get the scoop without a lot of BS.

As far as I'm concerned, they are all cool boats from that era.  And it goes without saying, the basic design must have worked, we still run them today and we don't need Roll Bars, or fancy upholstery to get out and have fun.  Sure we like to customize them to make them our own but it doesn't require a complete redesign like the boat mfgs do today.

I like damn near all the old hot rod style boats, from SK types to Hydros.  "V" Drives, Jet Drives, I/Os, and even some outboards, as long as you don't have to paddle.  :)
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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2007, 08:17:34 PM »
Sooooo.... Heres some 16 Tahiti pics ... from today looks, like it will need a little bottom work (makes a good case for not beaching your boat) ,also interesting how a "golf ball size rock can get "sucked thru a sewer grate" lol    like the old "golf ball thru a garden hose thing "   Tom




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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2007, 08:34:11 PM »
Sooooo.... Heres some 16 Tahiti pics ... from today looks, like it will need a little bottom work (makes a good case for not beaching your boat) ,also interesting how a "golf ball size rock can get "sucked thru a sewer grate" lol    like the old "golf ball thru a garden hose thing "   Tom



I'll bet there are a lot of hulls that look like this.  You see lots of photos of beached boats.  I read somewhere that a pump will suck stuff off the bottom at idle from as far down as 3 feet.  Didn't look like it did much damage tot he impeller.  Am I right?
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« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2007, 01:46:46 PM »
Tom, if you haven't already torn the pump down, could you measure the clearance at the front of the impeller? Curious to know how loose those were from the factory. Pic seems to indicate a pretty wide gap.

. .... Didn't look like it did much damage to the impeller.  Am I right?

Although a person could spend the time(and money) to reshape each the leading edges of those impeller vanes, I'd say there is enough damage there to consider that one toast. Don't forget the likely wear/damage to the wear ring surface. New aluminum impellers are relatively inexpensive.


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« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2007, 02:48:01 PM »
Although a person could spend the time(and money) to reshape each the leading edges of those impeller vanes, I'd say there is enough damage there to consider that one toast. Don't forget the likely wear/damage to the wear ring surface. New aluminum impellers are relatively inexpensive.


Upon a second look-see, I do see the damage.
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« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2007, 08:52:25 AM »
Tom, if you haven't already torn the pump down, could you measure the clearance at the front of the impeller? Curious to know how loose those were from the factory. Pic seems to indicate a pretty wide gap.

Although a person could spend the time(and money) to reshape each the leading edges of those impeller vanes, I'd say there is enough damage there to consider that one toast. Don't forget the likely wear/damage to the wear ring surface. New aluminum impellers are relatively inexpensive.



Old squirt we'll disassemble the Jet today and measure in the process, not 100 % sure but I dont think it(the jets been apart ,the boats fairly original Check out the pics of the intake removal note the marker pencil lines someone from Riches "crew" probably made at the front of the intake from the original "rigging". Dont know what the "epoxy" formula was back then but whew (some really hard sh*t) .Your right on the "reshape" as a budget deal but this ones probably "beer cans"  I belive its destined for a new A/T "A" cut. I'd love to put a Dominator intake in it too (as this one needs a lot of work) but I really want to try to keep the original look of the little jet boat that so many of us "grew up with" This may not be a "sexy" high powered 1/4 miler but I think it has potential to be a cool little boat again ! more to follow...

By the way the first pic here is the way the boat came in ,the customer claims he got a massive ticket at Don Pedro for " not haveing an approved flame arrestor" make me wonder why the Ranger didn't notice the Autmotive HEI ,non marine ALT , starter etc.. Tom




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« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2007, 09:27:31 AM »
What year is that little 16? I was trying to guess based only on those medallion gauges, at least they look like the old medallion gauges. Could have been changed through the years, but those came later like '75 or so. And what's that rectangle thing mounted by the steering hub?

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« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2007, 09:43:59 AM »
And what's that rectangle thing mounted by the steering hub?

that friend of mine here locally has an hour meter that looks just like that.  It has a big a$$ black trim piece around it.....real ugly looking on his white boat with white gauges and blue anodized bezels.

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« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2007, 11:15:59 AM »
What year is that little 16? I was trying to guess based only on those medallion gauges, at least they look like the old medallion gauges. Could have been changed through the years, but those came later like '75 or so. And what's that rectangle thing mounted by the steering hub?


My Dads out right now so I told him I'd post these up for him. I couldn't find any HIN on the transom or inside of the boat but I'm sure this will tell ya.



And the rectangle on the dash is an over elaborate bilge pump switch


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« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2007, 01:07:26 PM »
I thought my bilge switch was ugly... It's just a little gold switch on the dash a bit smaller than that ignition...

 


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