Pony_Boy

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Engines?
« on: April 25, 2016, 04:50:59 PM »
I have a boat in mind, and trying to plan out what I'm going to do with it this winter. The boat is a 77 Tahiti closed bow 18' boat. It has an old built ford 460 as the power plant. I'm looking to go bigger and better. This is along the lines of what I'd like, I'm looking at crate motors because I don't have the time to tear down and rebuild one. Is the price worth it for being bran new? Thoughts?


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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2016, 05:07:10 PM »
Not in my opinion. Find a reputable engine builder in your town could probably make at least that much power for less than half of that
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JoeDirte

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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2016, 05:34:44 PM »
Save your money and find someone to build it. Send it to cnc motorsports or something for half that.


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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2016, 05:45:06 PM »
Had mine built by a member on here i paid less then half that with just about the same HP
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2016, 06:07:06 PM »
Cars engines aren't designed to be boat engines. You'll either take it apart to get the proper clearance before you use or after you tried to use it and snapped valves etc.


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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2016, 06:22:06 PM »
As others have already said I'd pass too. You'd have to tear it down and have it clearanced to run in an open cooling setup anyways. Some have been lucky enough to make a car motor live in a jet boat but longevity isn't likely without the proper precautions.

Find a reputable shop/board member and have one built to your spec's.

Not sure what you're running as far as a pump but all the power in the world isn't going to help you if your not moving it efficiently through the jet.

Good luck and let us know how your search progresses.
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2016, 06:44:14 PM »
This engine also appears to be based on the 351W which means that most if not all of the accessories from the 460 will not fit.  So on top of the cost of the engine, you're going to have to purchase mounts, exhaust, alternator bracket, flex plate and possibly the coupler.

Not a good value when you can get a stroker 460 with about 80-90 more cubic inches for the same amount of money.

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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2016, 09:37:02 PM »
LakesOnly is the resident Ford specialist.  I'm sure he's got a combination to suit your needs and budget.

I lost his website address changing phones.  Hopefully somebody can chime in.

Good luck with the build,

Joe
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2016, 09:39:58 PM »
LakesOnly is the resident Ford specialist.  I'm sure he's got a combination to suit your needs and budget.

I lost his website address changing phones.  Hopefully somebody can chime in.

Good luck with the build,

Joe

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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2016, 09:49:41 PM »
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73sidewinderguy

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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2016, 10:24:14 PM »
Ewwww ford #justsaying


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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2016, 11:39:29 PM »
Hey now, there is nothing wrong with Fords. Lol.


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Pony_Boy

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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2016, 02:00:03 AM »
Well then, i know that a great setup should be less than 8k. That's a start. I don't care if the old 460 parts fit or not, I'll just replace them, have the 460 torn down, inline bored for the crank, cam, decks planed, cylinders checked lifters checked ect and the block ex-rayed for cracks. I'll keep all the paperwork and probably turn it over for a profit to help fund my monster build (hopefully)


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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2016, 07:27:42 AM »

Hey now, there is nothing wrong with Fords. Lol.


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Lol I'm just messin around. Nothing wrong with a ford. I'm just a Chevy guy


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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2016, 07:39:40 AM »

 I'm just a Chevy guy


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« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2016, 07:47:27 AM »
Just curious. If you're willing to drop $16k on a motor, then another $2-3k on making it fit, why not gather all those funds-including the cost of buying the 77 Tahiti-and get yourself a badass turnkey boat? Imagine what you could pick up for $25k.

Am I the only one thinking this? The man is looking for good advice here.


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« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2016, 07:53:26 AM »
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« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2016, 07:54:32 AM »
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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2016, 12:22:28 AM »

Just curious. If you're willing to drop $16k on a motor, then another $2-3k on making it fit, why not gather all those funds-including the cost of buying the 77 Tahiti-and get yourself a badass turnkey boat? Imagine what you could pick up for $25k.

Am I the only one thinking this? The man is looking for good advice here.


Steve-O

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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2016, 04:44:43 AM »

Just curious. If you're willing to drop $16k on a motor, then another $2-3k on making it fit, why not gather all those funds-including the cost of buying the 77 Tahiti-and get yourself a badass turnkey boat? Imagine what you could pick up for $25k.

Am I the only one thinking this? The man is looking for good advice here.


Steve-O

X3

You could buy nicks cp (with a ford motor) for the same amount of money your talking about. And the boat is brand new only 11hrs on it.


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Nick

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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2016, 07:08:38 AM »
If you want just a motor you can buy my 521" ford motor, I'll save you 10 grand.

Check out my for sale ad in the spam section to see all the stats on my build.

I also have a bbf rail kit and bbf Bassett headers if you want those things too.

Call me if you want to chat.

Thanks,
Nick


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« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2016, 07:33:30 AM »

X3

You could buy nicks cp (with a ford motor) for the same amount of money your talking about. And the boat is brand new only 11hrs on it.


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X4 on Steve-o and x2 on bunger and you will have 15x the boat your gonna build and way better resale value. But that's just my opinion being a gullwing owner


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« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2016, 07:46:44 AM »
And x17 on Fordlover because he posted both sick boats for sale.
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« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2016, 08:37:31 AM »
Pony boy-

With the horsepower you want, you need a hull and set-up that will handle it. A Tahiti may not be it.

Both the above boats have some SERIOUS hardware. One is capable of 110 mph+.

Find a hull/combo that is more user friendly, and is capable of HP upgrades.

These are squirt boats, and there's a learning curve. I've seen rookies get into trouble all by themselves with 350-400 hp.

I've scared a few people with a 500 hp Day Cruiser at 57 mph...110 Is not something to be taken lightly. I've never been over 82 or so.

and ALWAYS with jets...Cubic Inches and Cubic Dollars

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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2016, 08:48:00 AM »

Thats ok, we all have flaws.

True for example my trucks wiring is all jacked up #thanksgprbothinchevy

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