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« on: January 24, 2008, 08:33:53 PM »
Not to pretty ,heres the start !


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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2008, 08:40:46 PM »
that shore is purdy
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2008, 08:59:04 PM »
It's what's on the inside that counts... I hope.   :D
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2008, 09:31:16 PM »
Wow, and I thought mine looked bad when I bought it ;)

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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2008, 09:52:38 PM »
did you pull it out of something on the bottom of the lake? :o
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2008, 01:10:44 AM »
It looks like someone used it to anchor a dock (for a couple of years!).
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2008, 09:17:43 AM »
I will be "Cindermotor" ::) .. T

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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2008, 09:24:24 AM »
Is that ferd blue I see under all that goo.

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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2008, 10:44:42 AM »
gee, good thing they left the dipstick in there... Oh wait it looks like the seal is missing up front...

good amount of cleaning and I'm hopeful for ya Brad. Can't wait to see you joining the ranks of the NJ/CJ boys for good.

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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2008, 11:00:54 AM »
i wish you guys could see the amount of play in the timing chain....even ralph was trippin on it.
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« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2008, 11:09:45 AM »
i wish you guys could see the amount of play in the timing chain....even ralph was trippin on it.

Got a camera ???

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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2008, 11:26:07 AM »
Got a camera ???

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yeah, but the motor is now at tom's shop...5 hours away.
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2008, 11:30:05 AM »
i wish you guys could see the amount of play in the timing chain....even ralph was trippin on it.

Guys thats hitech sh*t ,called "variable cam timing"  :D

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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2008, 12:34:38 PM »


You should try one of these out Brad...



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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2008, 08:44:44 PM »
OK soooo  Milt (cyl head guru) says the heads are good (no cracks) the pan looked like it was hit by a Mack truck ,but a little Hammer and anvil action and viola' ready for the torch (me) Tom
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2008, 09:02:48 AM »
nice tom, it looks great!
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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2008, 11:43:19 AM »
Wow, you took this job pretty serious. That get-up is lookin like a million dollars already.

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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2008, 02:09:12 PM »
Ahhh...nothing like the #5,#6  band saw. LOL ::)
Layit out with a crayon
cut it with a torch
Pound to fit  LOL >:D
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2008, 04:18:45 PM »
Ahhh...nothing like the #5,#6  band saw. LOL ::)
Layit out with a crayon
cut it with a torch
Pound to fit  LOL >:D
Get er done. ;D

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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2008, 08:41:13 PM »
Ok so the long block core went to be tanked magged and bored (its .030 over now) pistons & stuff are on the way and yours truly did a little torch action on the oil pan ..



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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2008, 11:49:54 AM »
gives her character. looking good!

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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2008, 07:44:11 PM »
OK so ..the rotating assy will all be here tuesday ,should go to balance L'lair (drag race machinest/ balancer extrordinair) then back for assembly maybe late next week Special thanks to Scat Crank Shafts and Kieth Black/Silvalite pistons for participating in this Motor The Pan got some epoxy treatment and some "touch up" today  ;)

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« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2008, 08:35:30 PM »
Heres your crank Buddy ,As Josh pointed out kinda has the socaljets  logo on the box  ;D


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« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2008, 11:47:26 PM »
sure is purdy  ;D
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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2008, 05:35:56 PM »
Hey Tom,
Curious about the oil pan... With it being welded back up and all what will you coat it with to avoid rust and all that good stuff?

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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2008, 05:40:03 PM »
Hey Tom,
Curious about the oil pan... With it being welded back up and all what will you coat it with to avoid rust and all that good stuff?
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« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2008, 06:27:39 PM »
Hey Tom,
Curious about the oil pan... With it being welded back up and all what will you coat it with to avoid rust and all that good stuff?

oil >:D

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« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2008, 08:26:51 PM »
Undone I actually epoxyed ofver the welds with "sea going poxy putty" then a "rattle canned' it with some gold rustoleum ("getto gold irridite" )  O0 Tom


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« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2008, 07:19:01 PM »
right on. I did the rustoleum treatment on my old boat... The paint eventually started blistering and rusting the pan after 2 weeks outside. Apparently the neighbors sprinklers penetrated my cover and filled the bilge just enough. Long story short I was ran the header lines under the oil pan. The T-valve was right under it and in my own haste to make sure it worked I started the boat up. The torque twist of the engine pushed the rusted pan onto the T-valve and punctured the pan. Coulda repaired it I guess but instead I order an 11quart Moroso. They sent me a pan for a Gen 4 when mine was a gen 5. Next pan came in and it was 9" deep. I needed 8"... Next pan came in it was an 8.25" deep 8 quart Moroso. So I banged up the oil pan a bit to clear the pump, got the engine sitting right where we wanted it for the drive angles and got rid of the rubber dampened mounts. $2000 dollars later the pan still wasn't perfect, but made it work... Took two weeks to get all the money back. Good stuff. Next time I'll just call you Tom...
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« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2008, 01:54:53 PM »
Any updates?

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« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2008, 03:06:34 PM »
The rotating assembly is at the balancers should be back PDQ for some Assembly action Tom

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« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2008, 03:09:02 PM »
Awesome. Are you guys (JBP) planning on getting out to the race?

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« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2008, 08:04:05 PM »
Re the race ,more than likley ! plus I'm wantin some of Skips Tri tip !! Tom

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« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2008, 08:26:05 PM »
I told you the Engine balancer was in the "boonies" bet you thought i was bs'in Tom
(But whoo hoo what a Miata road !!!  ;D)




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« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2008, 08:58:16 PM »
 
I told you the Engine balancer was in the "boonies" bet you thought i was bs'in Tom
(But whoo hoo what a Miata road !!!  ;D)



Hmmm, My only question is, why is the Miata sideways in the middle of the road  :sly: ??
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« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2008, 09:06:05 PM »
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« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2008, 09:07:11 PM »
Hmmm, My only question is, why is the Miata sideways in the middle of the road  :sly: ??

its called multi-tasking

hes drifting with one hand..and taking pictures with the other... becuase has no time to slow down ...he was in a rush to get the parts delivered  ;D
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« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2008, 09:28:56 PM »
Actually Jeff I did good till it caught a lilttle sandy patch and almost put it in the "weeds" Had a major "flash back" from 30 years ago (TR4 A in a ditch ) I think it was Brads engine parts in the trunk .made it lite in the front end ,causing understeer  ;D

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« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2008, 09:31:59 PM »
lol...he said TR4....
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« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2008, 09:39:56 PM »
Multi tasking you must have been privy to the live Jbp video feed ,the plce was a Mad house ! :o :o :o

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« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2008, 09:43:49 PM »
Actually Jeff I did good till it caught a lilttle sandy patch and almost put it in the "weeds" Had a major "flash back" from 30 years ago (TR4 A in a ditch )

 Been there done that !  Involved a 280 z and a REALY BIG oak tree that ran into my car !!!  ::)

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« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2008, 11:34:44 PM »
its called multi-tasking

hes drifting with one hand..and taking pictures with the other... becuase has no time to slow down ...he was in a rush to get the parts delivered  ;D
If both hands are occupied where the cell phone ;D  oops good call Jeff back to the engine, my bad.
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« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2008, 05:39:38 AM »
that looks like the come to JESUS road :o

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« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2008, 07:54:01 AM »
Well he's not Jesus but he's a GOd when it comes to engine balancing etc ,he has a shop full of equipt 20 miles from nowhere , my shops big and it would fit inside L'lairs ! (Don L'lair ,engine balancer to the "Stars")

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« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2008, 01:45:13 PM »
Oh shit Brads a "STAR" now. ;D
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« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2008, 08:23:44 PM »
Right up there with Garlits and the crowd ,damn right ! Ok so Rhonda got into the "socal team effort" ,she went and snagged the short block today from the machinist Here the "sneak preview" !! (note the statue's keeping watch!!)




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« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2008, 08:34:27 PM »
ssssure looks purdy. awesome.

tell rhonda thanks for pickin it up! you guys rule.
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« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2008, 08:44:12 PM »
looks like we will be thrashing this weekend >:D

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« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2008, 08:53:22 PM »
Brad just got your VMX ,Rons committed to coming to pick up the motor and his Jet Sat pm , Josh is going to "clay it' ,degree the cam, put the heads and pan etc etc tommorow am ,should be ready to "dump in the boat Sunday when Ron drops it off to you !Were stoked to ! Good to see everyone pull together, its truly refreshing in todays world ! Tom

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« Reply #50 on: February 14, 2008, 08:55:39 PM »
Brad just got your VMX ,Rons committed to coming to pick up the motor and his Jet Sat pm , Josh is going to "clay it' ,degree the cam, put the heads and pan etc etc tommorow am ,should be ready to "dump in the boat Sunday when Ron drops it off to you Were stoked to .good to see everyone pull together, its truly refreshing in todays world ! Tom

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« Reply #51 on: February 14, 2008, 09:55:38 PM »
that looks really purdy ;D
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« Reply #52 on: February 14, 2008, 10:05:21 PM »
... Josh is going to "clay it'...

Not trying to thread jack here but what is "clay it"? (Guessing checking for piston to valve clearence??)
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« Reply #53 on: February 14, 2008, 10:24:50 PM »
Correct i'll post pics of the process, cam degree etc  Tom

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« Reply #54 on: February 15, 2008, 07:34:53 AM »
Correct i'll post pics of the process, cam degree etc  Tom

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« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2008, 08:52:08 PM »
Down ,stalled (temporarily) a little frustrated ...but by no means out ... a little "valve train geometry fubar' but were back sluggin tommorow sorry for the delay guys !




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« Reply #56 on: February 15, 2008, 11:27:03 PM »
looks killer tom....

sleep on it...im sure you guys will figure it out!

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« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2008, 07:41:56 AM »
you guys will get it  ;)

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« Reply #58 on: February 19, 2008, 08:40:39 PM »
OK boys gettin down to it !!!!,a little more left ,got the valve train figured out !! Lets get this m'fing Hot Rod in the water !! ;D Tom




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« Reply #59 on: February 19, 2008, 08:45:09 PM »
Looks great Tom. Way to work under pressure ;). Now lets get it to the OC and in that boat!
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« Reply #60 on: February 19, 2008, 08:47:02 PM »
Looking good Tom, are still planning on breaking it in before delivery? If so whats your timeline?

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« Reply #61 on: February 19, 2008, 10:29:20 PM »
Looking awesome as always Tom ;D
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way to go guys. Really awesome seeing this all pull together for Brad.

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« Reply #63 on: February 19, 2008, 10:31:34 PM »
That thing looks like SHIT , you should just put it in my boat and start over! ;D ;D ;D O0
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« Reply #64 on: February 19, 2008, 10:41:00 PM »
absolutely beautiful.....I cant thank you enough.
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« Reply #65 on: February 19, 2008, 10:41:24 PM »
Ron it ready when you are  ;) Tom

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« Reply #66 on: February 19, 2008, 10:41:43 PM »


What your seeing here is my Dad crankn away on the oil pump drive rod with my speed wrench, and its a bit hard to read but the gauge was shown almost about 75 psi.   Thats an out of the box Melling....love those ford pumps.

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« Reply #67 on: February 19, 2008, 10:46:18 PM »
Hand cranked oil pressure wow !! does that mean I'm gonna have to ride in the boat turnin that wrench while Brad drives ???  :banghead:

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« Reply #68 on: February 19, 2008, 10:51:07 PM »
Lol, I was wondering why you didn't just use a drill?  Only thing I could think of was maybe the pump shaft would slip inside the drill and drop some metal shavings down into the engine :banghead:  Doh that was me once upon a time ;)

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« Reply #69 on: February 20, 2008, 06:24:55 AM »
Looks bitchen, Except the dizzy's in the front, not the back where it belongs. And the fuel pump is on the wrong side :banghead:

Wait maybe you put it on the stand backwards ;D

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« Reply #70 on: February 20, 2008, 08:04:19 AM »
Lol, I was wondering why you didn't just use a drill?  Only thing I could think of was maybe the pump shaft would slip inside the drill and drop some metal shavings down into the engine :banghead:  Doh that was me once upon a time ;)

Actually Charles your correct  we would normally use a drill and a "pre oiler tool" I was just screwing around at the end of the day ,I was amazed however at nearly 80 psi cold (15/ 40 rotella oil) and my "hand turning" with a speed wrench (standard pressure and volume pump) Tom

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« Reply #71 on: February 20, 2008, 08:05:40 AM »
Correct i'll post pics of the process, cam degree etc  Tom

 ::)  I have all the time in the world for free advice... patiently waiting... engine looks great... HP guestimate?
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« Reply #72 on: February 20, 2008, 08:20:04 PM »
Rod  450 + hp @ 5K (sims program),10 to 1 compression , cams in 2* advanced , Comp hydraulic ,anti pump ups ,standard OP ,Scat 9000 cast steel crank ,reworked ford rods (arp bolts) Dove heads stainless valve ,Comp valve train components , summit hardened pushrods and roller rockers holley 750 DFDP probably left alot out too frikkin tired (sorry) Brad Its up to you and the pit crew now ! Tom and Josh
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« Reply #73 on: February 20, 2008, 08:45:14 PM »
niiiiice, great work as usual jbp
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« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2008, 08:48:03 PM »
Sounds good
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« Reply #75 on: February 20, 2008, 09:04:14 PM »
Rod  450 + hp @ 5K (sims program),10 to 1 compression , cams in 2* advanced , Comp hydraulic ,anti pump ups ,standard OP ,Scat 9000 cast steel crank ,reworked ford rods (arp bolts) Dove heads stainless valve ,Comp valve train components , summit hardened pushrods and roller rockers holley 750 DFDP probably left alot out too frikkin tired (sorry) Brad Its up to you and the pit crew now ! Tom and Josh
ps how do you like our "run in stand"?  ;D ;D) ps "ticking noise" is wet logs ,2 bolts each no gaskets  :banghead:

Very sweet, aren't they supposed to have that tick?  :screwy:  J/K
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« Reply #76 on: February 20, 2008, 09:05:56 PM »
Sounds good, cant wait to see it in action

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« Reply #77 on: February 20, 2008, 10:12:45 PM »
sweet....sounds nice!

so ralph is the fockin man....hes goin up there tomorrow mornin to pick this bad boy up.

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« Reply #78 on: February 20, 2008, 10:16:10 PM »
sweet....sounds nice!

so ralph is the fockin man....hes goin up there tomorrow mornin to pick this bad boy up.

thanks ralph!

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