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« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2007, 08:27:32 PM »
Jeezus, that outa hold it....  Now with that outa of the way, time to dust off that rideplate/shoe dealio you were building Josh..........


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« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2007, 08:49:01 PM »
Soon as I unchain him and he gets his bread and water I'll get hime workin on that other stuff !! :)

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« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2007, 11:12:40 AM »
We're gonna go out there and get some psi readings before I make any crazy hardware changes. But  Just a taste of whats to come.  I've been dreeming up a shoe, the intake opening is about 3/4 to an 1" up from the keel, But to bring it down to the keel seems a bit dramatic seeing as its almost 11" vs the berk almost 8". So I'm still pondering that. I have half a dosen designs in mind, so I'll probabbly make a few different ones.

The shoe addition will most likely accompany a full on narrowed "rideplate" to relpace the dinkky cav plate setup it currently has.

We''ll also know better what it needs or doesn't need when we drive it, I swiss cheeses the suction with psi taps so we can get some good solid info.

One of the big concerns or percieved short commings outsiders would choose to pick on, was lack of hardware for tuning for Panthers.  Well heres some food for thought, berkeley didn't either in 1965.  No loadered, shoes, rideplates, droops, snoots, diverters existed till someone saw a need and a market for them. 
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« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2007, 04:50:55 PM »
I really think you're on to something Josh. Of course, I'm usually wrong on stuff, but, I like the basic design of the intake. With the shoe hardware, what are the mounting options you 're batting around.
I don't think it'll take much of a shoe to load the crap out of this thing.

It "seems" like this would be a natural but I just cant get my head around the shoe mount side of things.

Oh well, be fun to watch this all come together......take care...john

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« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2007, 05:39:49 PM »
I really think you're on to something Josh. Of course, I'm usually wrong on stuff, but, I like the basic design of the intake. With the shoe hardware, what are the mounting options you 're batting around.
I don't think it'll take much of a shoe to load the crap out of this thing.

It "seems" like this would be a natural but I just cant get my head around the shoe mount side of things.

Oh well, be fun to watch this all come together......take care...john
Actually since I posted last I already made a solid mount to bolt shoe(s) and rideplates on, futuristically, and in the pictures it emulates the stock setup.   This makes it so I can make a couple of shoes that i can swap really easy, at the lake if i want, and not have to worry about sealling and other issue that may arise if this were one piece.



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« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2007, 06:07:28 PM »
Josh are you going to install nuts on those bolts? and if not won't they vibrate loose? I've heard that even with red loctite they have a knack of working loose.
You know, a dick in the butt will fix that and you are coming down this weekend right   
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« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2007, 06:41:53 PM »
Josh are you going to install nuts on those bolts? and if not won't they vibrate loose? I've heard that even with red loctite they have a knack of working loose.
Thats the plan, I had just finished mocking it up when i took the pic, getting tired of running over to the bolt bin.  Thanks for the QC

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« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2007, 06:50:59 PM »
I knew that.... ;D
You know, a dick in the butt will fix that and you are coming down this weekend right   
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« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2007, 08:43:52 PM »
Makes a Dad proud !! you folks probably have no Idea but my Son has been workin with me since he could walk (at home and at the shop) All Very Nice work Son !!  ;)  Dad
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« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2007, 05:31:45 AM »
Makes a Dad proud !! you folks probably have no Idea but my Son has been workin with me since he could walk (at home and at the shop) All Very Nice work Son !!  ;)  Dad

You should be Pops. And not because of what he can do in the shop, when Jan and I both left your shop we mentioned how impressed we were with Josh. He's a good man.   


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« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2007, 05:34:34 AM »
Actually since I posted last I already made a solid mount to bolt shoe(s) and rideplates on, futuristically, and in the pictures it emulates the stock setup.   This makes it so I can make a couple of shoes that i can swap really easy, at the lake if i want, and not have to worry about sealling and other issue that may arise if this were one piece.




Looks fantastic Josh. You do fantastic work.  The above picture was the one I was struggling with. I like your approach.  My guts telling me what you already have there is liable to make a big difference without anything else.

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« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2007, 10:40:55 AM »
John the way you see it in that picture is much stronger, but really from an attack angle isn't any different than the stock setup with the plate zeroed.  I does seal a whole lot better than gooping silicone between the sides of the rideplate and the pod.  I actually cut the Panther rideplate down in front to maintain the stock length for the initial tests.  And not that it needed anymore, with the brace and all, but it does serve to further strengthen and stablize the jet in the boat. 

On a side note I had never realized how flimsy the stock plate is, 3/16", with out the finns and the adjuster that thing would be jello going down the lake.

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« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2007, 08:52:52 PM »
OK this "Hot Rod" is about ready to go to the lake for some more Panther Energizer R&D, A little "crackle" for you folks (notice how talented "my youngin" is ,snackin while he's tuning) Tom


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« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2007, 08:02:28 AM »
John the way you see it in that picture is much stronger, but really from an attack angle isn't any different than the stock setup with the plate zeroed.  I does seal a whole lot better than gooping silicone between the sides of the rideplate and the pod.  I actually cut the Panther rideplate down in front to maintain the stock length for the initial tests.  And not that it needed anymore, with the brace and all, but it does serve to further strengthen and stablize the jet in the boat. 

On a side note I had never realized how flimsy the stock plate is, 3/16", with out the finns and the adjuster that thing would be jello going down the lake.

Agreed on all counts. I'm just curious if you're going to need anymore "biting edge" than what is already provided by the mount for the shoe. As far as the stock plate, it is a thin SOB isnt it?  Looking great and I can't wait to hear how you do. 

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« Reply #39 on: December 20, 2007, 11:02:45 AM »
Agreed on all counts. I'm just curious if you're going to need anymore "biting edge" than what is already provided by the mount for the shoe. As far as the stock plate, it is a thin SOB isnt it?  Looking great and I can't wait to hear how you do. 

We'll see like i said we swiss cheesed the sommomabitch, to get some more readings.  The cental tap we had before never saw any more than 15psi on the suction WOT, but that was also a different boat. 

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« Reply #40 on: December 20, 2007, 07:48:20 PM »
We'll see like i said we swiss cheesed the sommomabitch, to get some more readings.  The cental tap we had before never saw any more than 15psi on the suction WOT, but that was also a different boat. 

Cool Josh, can't wait to hear what you guys find out.  Take care

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« Reply #41 on: December 20, 2007, 08:19:07 PM »
The Tahiti comes out today to make room for the Placecraft! Tom



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« Reply #42 on: December 20, 2007, 08:20:18 PM »
very nice work as usual
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« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2007, 08:27:44 PM »
Thanks Forked we're really anxious to see how this boat runs ,That motor pushed my 85 Bahner jet 83 and 84 BTB runs at CFW,got 2 seasons in my Vdrive cruiser this is some of the  most HP put to the Panther conversion yet to our Knowledge so we're real curious to say the least ..Tom

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« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2007, 08:29:46 PM »
make sure you get some video of the test run for us ;D
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« Reply #45 on: December 20, 2007, 10:13:07 PM »
tom, nice work as usual and in the last pic who did the tahiti emblems in the front seats that is real nice
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« Reply #46 on: December 20, 2007, 10:29:58 PM »
Buddy I' guessin thats OEM ??? The "Tiki" Imprint looks to be "embossed" (not stitched) Krazy Huh Tom

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« Reply #47 on: December 21, 2007, 08:03:45 AM »
Good job Josh!  I'm glad to see that some of the possible issues I spoke of are being addressed.
And yes, the Tiki head in the seats was a OEM thing....I wonder if people paid extra for it?  :o

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« Reply #48 on: December 21, 2007, 08:20:44 AM »
Wow that boat sure looks sweet with that huffer.  Damn I think I want it back.lol ;D

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« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2007, 07:50:46 PM »
Steve  Good to hear from you !We always appreciated your input and questions from the onset ,(sometimes you were a little ahead of us  ;D),It was "providence" for us to finally "score' a Panther ready hull as nice as this for a test bed for upgrades and R&D  Kreg gave us that opportunity! We'll keep you posted Tom

Kreg the little blower worked very well in my Bahner as well as my Eliminator .folks can say what they want about Weiand but I've been very satisfied. I just put a 256 Weiand on my new motor ,ready to fire ,just too busy  So many boats so little time  Tom
Kreg got caught up in the Last minute Xmas sh*T today I'll call you tommorow  T

 


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