Thinking about getting into a jet boat

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« on: June 07, 2017, 12:29:37 PM »
Hey everyone!

So I am new to boats (at least having one of my own...I've taken trips to the river and to mead and mojave several times), which by definition means I'm new to jet boats.  I'm interested in learning a thing or two before jumping in and getting one.  I've been working on classic cars for years and a dedicated DIYer.  I've looked around for a sticky that talks about things to avoid/look for when first getting into boating, but haven't found anything.  Am I missing it?  Or should I just poke around more and see what info you guys have offered to newbies like me?




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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2017, 12:44:15 PM »
Welcome to the site and the sport.

What would you like to do with your boat and where?  Narrowing down that question will go a long way to helping you decide on a hull style and length.

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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2017, 01:09:47 PM »
I plan on going to the river, lake perris, maybe mojave, mead or powell.  I'm not looking for super flashy or fast, just something fun. 

If I were talking about a classic car, I'd say I'd be looking for a daily driver mustang--common, easy, and fun.

I'd be making trips with my wife and daughter.

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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2017, 06:30:33 PM »
Those are all pretty big lakes and bad weather can come up quick on them. I have run my 18 foot Challenger on all of them several times but you definitely have to keep an eye on the weather. These lakes you would be more suited for a larger hull. Jmho

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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2017, 06:45:06 PM »
We go to mead and the river, had a 25' and then went to a 19 jet. 19 is to small for the lake unless your really good at watching the weather and even at that your trips will be limited. We now have a 21 spectra which I hope will be a happy medium for both

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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2017, 06:51:23 PM »
We go to mead and the river, had a 25' and then went to a 19 jet. 19 is to small for the lake unless your really good at watching the weather and even at that your trips will be limited. We now have a 21 spectra which I hope will be a happy medium for both

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Lol yea when I was a youngster my pops sunk the Challenger I have now on Antalope point at Powell in a "surprise" monsoon lol no way we could have made it across wahweap bay so he headed to Antalope point put the pump up on shore as high as possible but the waves crashed over the deck and filled it up like a bath tube even with him bailing like a crazy man lol. Boat was only a couple years old at that point and now it's 40 so no major harm done thank god.

Been back in the same boat many times since and it's really not a huge deal but you do pay attention to lessons learned lol

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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2017, 11:53:22 AM »
So if I start to go and look at boats, what are some of the things that I should keep an eye out for.  I know motors, but very little about jets or boats. 

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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2017, 05:27:14 PM »
I would take a friend with you, another set of eyes helps. If you have someone in your group with a jet boat, or another member will let you look at there boat. Take a good look at it top to bottom, before you look to buy. I take a few things with me flash light, blanket, floor Jack, tire chocks, and a compression tester. If I like the colors and condition of the top I start at the bottom. If the owner will not let you look over the boat, you can always walk. A good visually inspection tells a lot, plus a compression test. The water test is a plus after the complete inspection. But sometimes not always available. Good luck and hopefully something here will helps you.

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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2017, 03:16:51 PM »
I plan on going to the river, lake perris, maybe mojave, mead or powell.  I'm not looking for super flashy or fast, just something fun. 

If I were talking about a classic car, I'd say I'd be looking for a daily driver mustang--common, easy, and fun.

I'd be making trips with my wife and daughter.

Going with classic car analogy, I will list a few my favorite hulls.

Probably by far the most popular would be the 19' Gullwing.  I would equate these to the classic styling of a first gen Mustang with the performance a versatility of a Fox Body, a damn good platform to build on.  These are very efficient hulls with aerodynamic lift.  You can have great performance and a back seat.

I'm not including the 18' Gullwing because that would be more like a Cobra or a pissed off 60s Corvette.

The 19' Rogers/Advantage Bonneville just screams classic styling with its barrel back transom and bubble deck.  This hull incorporates a very deep V with a dropped chine that packs a lot of aerodynamic lift.  Being a favorite in Comp Jet Racing, it has proven rough water capability if you happen to find yourself out when the weather comes up.  The deep V will produce one of smoothest ride qualities for its size.

I would have to label myself as a Hallett guy.  From a performance standpoint, the Hallett 19' Bubble Deck.  The quality of workmanship is top notch.  They can handle big power and fare well in rougher water.  I would liken this hull to a '67-70 Mustang, a little heavier and more family oriented than performance bread.

If you wanted a little more "lake"worthiness, yet still be in the muscle car, uhm boat, realm, you can step up into the Fairlane or Galaxie, some 19.5' and 20.5' mini-day cruisers have a low freeboard.  IMHO, these have the "slammed" look of the smaller boats with the additional room for friends and gear.  I have seen some, having a 20.5' myself, that are pretty fast.

The higher freeboard mini-day cruisers are getting pretty close to the Lincoln Continental realm, without getting into the family station wagon type.  The high freeboard makes them "lake"worthy, if the bigger lakes will be among your "usual" hangout spots, that the smaller boats just aren't suited for.

If I was looking to buy a different mini-day cruiser, I would definitely look for one with center lifting strokes.  Most hulls seem to have these, however mine does not.  These center lifting strakes are located approximately 4" from center and end approximately 6" to 9" in front of the jet intake.  These bigger boats need the additional hydrodynamic lift because there is a lot of boat to get out of the water and on plane.  I think my hull doesn't have the inner strakes because it was originally available in both jet and v-drive configurations.  Really, just a minor disadvantage though, but a disadvantage nonetheless.

As far as the jet itself is concerned, try to stick with a Berkeley or Dominator.  For best upgradibility, serviceability, and performance, avoid insert style pumps.

Good luck,

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Joe
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2017, 09:41:33 AM »
Is there any method to inspecting the condition of the jet short of testing the boat in the water?  What should I look for in a visual inspection?

For the hull, I'm just looking for cracking and rotting right?  How much is too much?


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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2017, 12:52:00 PM »
Is there any method to inspecting the condition of the jet short of testing the boat in the water?  What should I look for in a visual inspection?

For the hull, I'm just looking for cracking and rotting right?  How much is too much?

I've seen trashed pumps that actually work. But they did not perform.

With meager horsepower, a fresh pump makes all the difference.

Like Flusher said, Berk, Dominator, as well as American Turbine and Legend.

Don't over look a good WJ Jacuzzi.

Dan'l

Oh, and crawl under the boat and look at the impeller.
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