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Where are the molds ??

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« on: February 07, 2020, 05:14:37 PM »
Throwing this one out to the community.
You can not tell me there is not a market for
our style of water hot rods?
Is there no boat builder willing to dabble in the
high performance 'sexy' low profile
water skimming squirters we all love?
So my question is .., where have the Barron,
Eliminator, Sanger, Cougar, Kachina etc, etc molds
all gone??
We have such a great group of pioneer jet boat
builders/mechanics/salesman/racers etc, etc.
Please chime in and discuss why these boats
are not a viable product in these times ..  ??


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« Last Edit: February 07, 2020, 07:46:05 PM by flatlanderjet »
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2020, 08:54:07 AM »
The thing is with this question is that it would cost u over 50k to build an squirt boat now . Whatís the point when there is a bunch of cheap boats out there turn key for under 10k . There is a guy in northern Cali that has the mold for my boat and just finished the hull , wants 16k for bare hull . Now add in all the rigging and motor and now ur easy into 30k and thatís if u do all the work . But I know that eliminator has all the old molds sitting somewhere and I know they would build u a boat if u wanted but as I said itís gona cost you .


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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2020, 10:03:13 AM »
ahh yes, I see your point clearly.
Here is the original 1979 invoice
for my present jet boat (hard to see its, $9065.70)
Although probably a big ticket (recreational)
purchase in its day, fast forward to
2020 and your easily 30 - 40g +


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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2020, 04:13:10 PM »
ahh yes, I see your point clearly.
Here is the original 1979 invoice
for my present jet boat (hard to see its, $9065.70)
Although probably a big ticket (recreational)
purchase in its day, fast forward to
2020 and your easily 30 - 40g +


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Nice lol , going to restore my boat from stringers up . All new gel and so on and I have friends that are gona hook me up and itís still gona cost about 15-20k to do it lol . Thatís why itís gona be a 4-5 year build lol


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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2020, 09:58:12 PM »
The Hallett Mini Cruiser mold was destroyed by Hallett (I asked Jerry Barron at Desert Storm a couple years ago). The Rogers 18 and 19 are still around. Advantage has the 18 and GSM supposedly knows who has the 19. Bill has the CP 18 and 19. GSM has the TPR 19/21 and the and the Daytona 19. Peterson has the PC 19. I am sure if looked hard enough you could find others like the Southwind. The last time I saw the Southwind 18 it was at Cobra.

I think Advantage builds a couple a year of the 18. Here is the last one Perterson finished up. I can't imagine the money in this one.










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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2020, 07:59:30 AM »
The Advantage Bonneville's are beautiful.

I wonder where the 20.5' Bonneville Classic ended up. I loved my '85. It seems like there weren't many made between Rogers and Advantage, but it was a solid boat that could handle power. 

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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2020, 08:14:07 AM »
My $.02 about the making 18 and 19' boats. The EPA and CARB have made it very difficult for manufacturers to produce these boats. There are less than a handful of engine packages and fuel tanks/systems approved by CARB for use in these boats. They all have catalytic converters and thru-hull exhaust. In addition to being ugly they're also very expensive.

Boats in that size range also need to have foam floatation under the deck which would ruin the clean look of any beautiful new boat.

The only way around it is a special construction HIN. That's why most of the new builds of smaller jets are basically race boats. No one can actually produce them.

I'd love for a resurgence of new, turnkey, affordable, 20' and under jet boats. However, it's unlikely. Most manufacturers don't touch anything under 21'. Eliminator basically stopped making their V-bottoms.

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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2020, 01:33:30 PM »
   the picture is getting clearer.
   labor, material, parts, regulations
   environmentalists etc. etc.
   and don't forget the winers...
   the guy standing at the launch
   glaring at your boat and you can't
   tell if he freakin loves it ❤️
   or if he's about
   to speed dial the local authorities    ??


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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2020, 04:59:46 PM »
The Hallett Mini Cruiser mold was destroyed by Hallett (I asked Jerry Barron at Desert Storm a couple years ago). The Rogers 18 and 19 are still around. Advantage has the 18 and GSM supposedly knows who has the 19. Bill has the CP 18 and 19. GSM has the TPR 19/21 and the and the Daytona 19. Peterson has the PC 19. I am sure if looked hard enough you could find others like the Southwind. The last time I saw the Southwind 18 it was at Cobra.

I think Advantage builds a couple a year of the 18. Here is the last one Perterson finished up. I can't imagine the money in this one.

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Absolutely gorgeous

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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2020, 06:23:41 PM »
Beautiful boat for sure!!


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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2020, 09:05:36 AM »
Eliminator recently did a 21' Daytona, less engine. I believe Teague did the engine and final rigging. Big blower motor if I remember right.

I couldn't imagine the price tag on that one.

Here on Scjb, there was an ad for a complete tunnel hull, 7 color gel coat, for $9k? It's been a while, prices have probably gone up. This is/was a new hull. Still needs everything else, engine, pump, interior, and  even a trailer.

There is new boats to be had, but you gotta search for them.

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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2020, 06:20:11 PM »
1999 19' TR

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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2020, 06:47:35 PM »
CJ/RR 212...under construction  "Pistol Annie"

 


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