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« on: April 29, 2008, 12:26:14 PM »
hey does anyone have a pic (or have one at all) of one of those really cool square-ended couplers? not a round style that looks like the ball itself?....it has a square end, that slips over the tow ball. ive only seen it on new boat trailers that come w/ the boat itself...i cant seem to find one at all, im re-doing my trailer as we speak, and would love to have one of those blingin couplers on it. thanx for your help!

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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2008, 12:43:19 PM »
hey does anyone have a pic (or have one at all) of one of those really cool square-ended couplers? not a round style that looks like the ball itself?....it has a square end, that slips over the tow ball. ive only seen it on new boat trailers that come w/ the boat itself...i cant seem to find one at all, im re-doing my trailer as we speak, and would love to have one of those blingin couplers on it. thanx for your help!

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someone over on PB was looking for these as well in the v-drive section.....you probably wont find one new because i believe someone chimed in and said that they are unsafe and are deemed illegal now by CHP. ill see if i can find the thread.
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2008, 01:14:52 PM »
Is this the style you are looking for? If so I've never seen one that wasn't for a trailer with brakes. The pic is from Extreme Trailers. If I rememeber right, you have a Competitive trailer. If so, be forewarned that the tube size of the front of the trailer wont match any of the commonly available replacement couplers. If you are removing one of the slip-in style tubular couplers, can I have it? Thanks.


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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2008, 01:26:00 PM »
here is the thread i was talking about....

http://www.performanceboats.com/html/forums/showthread.php?t=6106

yeah, they look cooler then the standard ones, but after reading peoples reviews that have dealt with them, i'd stick with a standard one.....it looks like its unsafe for towing and lots of blood blisters from getting pinched by it.
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2008, 01:41:16 PM »
I have one on my boat trailer and I havent had any problems.
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2008, 02:13:35 PM »
here is the thread i was talking about....

http://www.performanceboats.com/html/forums/showthread.php?t=6106

yeah, they look cooler then the standard ones, but after reading peoples reviews that have dealt with them, i'd stick with a standard one.....it looks like its unsafe for towing and lots of blood blisters from getting pinched by it.


When I bought my current boat it came on a Competitive trailer with the tubular slide-in coupler. Thought it would be a pain. Boy, was I wrong. It is a breeze to back right into it. Never had any problems at all. A hell of a lot easier to hook up to than the drop-on style. BTW, the biggest complainer about that style coupler ( in the v-drive thread about them)  hasn't even towed to the water with it as far as I can tell....

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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2008, 02:15:00 PM »
BTW, the biggest complainer about that style coupler ( in the v-drive thread about them)  hasn't even towed to the water with it as far as I can tell....

typical.....  ::)
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2008, 04:18:28 PM »
Sorry for the thread jack but i have been contemplating on changing my coupler to a more updated model........

Looks like i will be doing it sooner than i thought! Are they really illegal?

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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2008, 04:23:55 PM »
this is what was said...

Quote from: RIVER4FUN;108223
I've had 2 of those on boat trailers. A CHP buddy told me they are no longer legal so I doubt that they are even being made anymore

though its 3rd-4th hand info...im sure it would be worth looking into. I dont know what kinda safety concerns there are either

i would assume its some kinda law thats dated that any manufacturer produced trailers after a certain date cant use that coupler....so it wouldn't apply to any current trailers on the road.
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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2008, 05:09:33 PM »
IF, and I repeat IF, they are "illegal", I'm sure its like Brad said. At some point they were probably not legal to install by a manufacturer. That said, back in about 2004, I was looking for parts for one during a trailer resto project. I spoke with Competitive and a few other trailer builders and not one said anything about that style coupler being illegal. Just stated they had not been produced for years and parts weren't available. Honestly, I bet they are a lot more expensive to manufacture than the typical "drop-on" style. They use two forgings, a welded tube and then an arm welded on. Compare that to the typical one-piece stamping of the newer style that has only one forged piece(if that).

2sav, measure that trailer tube before you go jumping into a coupler swap. I bet it is 3.5" square. There aren't any modern couplers that are designed for that. 3", 2.5", 2" are all I could ever find.
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2008, 07:59:04 PM »
Yeah it is 3 1/2 wide so if i cut it and install a 3" square tube inside of it , i can install almost any 3" coupler then..

I will do some measuring ;D
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2008, 08:04:08 PM »
Remember, , your current coupler is on top of the tube. The other style will drop it down a couple inches so you will need adifferent drop for your hitch. I was contemplating the smaller tube inside the trailer tongue avenue........but then a new trailer showed up for that project. I've also seen a few where a section of 3", just tall enough to fit the coupler, was welded on top of the main tube with the tail end sloping down and blending into the main tube that looked pretty decent.

If you make the change, can I have your old coupler?
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2008, 08:09:19 PM »
If you make the change, can I have your old coupler?









Yeah , i would just fill the trash can with it otherwise ;D

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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2008, 08:29:06 PM »
Is this the style you are looking for? If so I've never seen one that wasn't for a trailer with brakes. The pic is from Extreme Trailers. If I rememeber right, you have a Competitive trailer. If so, be forewarned that the tube size of the front of the trailer wont match any of the commonly available replacement couplers. If you are removing one of the slip-in style tubular couplers, can I have it? Thanks.



i have this style on the trailer for forkedup, i love it, very easy to use and clean, i do have brakes as oldsquirt said but mine was custom made by zieman
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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2008, 12:18:22 AM »
yeah! i actually found one today in gardena/torrance by my work at a mom and pop trailer shop...i went ahead and bought the raw metal one, only 45 bucks! i dont have brakes, and it doesnt have any holes to mount it up so its strictly weld-on. the owner of the shop told me its actually much safer and more efficient than the others, plus, it looks TITS!...so yeah, i went ahead and bought it...its exactly the same as above, but w/out the surge brake assembly of course...thanx for all the info guys, i forgot whom its made by, but theyre based out of san marcos, by san diego.

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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2008, 07:31:27 PM »
Kind of pointles at this point but , I have one on my new trailer that I had built by competative last year . ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTLY awsome ! I do have one complaint though . When I go to unhitch , it does not like to let go of the ball . I have to pull the truck forward to unload the coupler and then i'm good . Since I got it fingered out it's not much of a problem anymore .



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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2008, 04:49:07 PM »
Alright everyone, my 'tongue job' (no pun intended) has been done for about 2 months, i just thought i'd finally take pictures of what i did. a full weld-up on this UFP coupler, and it looks pretty badass. i bought one 6' piece of 3x3, and one 8' piece of 4" C-channel, and went to town...i also added 9" splints made out of quarter inch plate where i extended the C-channels, also where i added a crossmember made out of some 3x3...the welds came out so nice, there's really no point of grinding them smooth for paint. and since i cant afford a paint or powdercoat job, i just shot the biatch w/ a few coats of satin black motor paint....ENJOY.




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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2008, 05:59:59 PM »
Nice job!, Modern/new stuff is cool 8)
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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2008, 02:11:22 PM »
i slapped some pretty diamond-plate on this morning...blingbling.



as opposed to how it looked 3+ years ago the day i bought the boat...



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« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2008, 10:00:40 PM »
Sorry for the thread jack but i have been contemplating on changing my coupler to a more updated model........

Looks like i will be doing it sooner than i thought! Are they really illegal?

2sav

A lot of v-drive guys really like this style (myself included). I heard they can be bought brand new in nor cal.

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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2008, 10:06:47 PM »
This is a "horse trailer" coupling, check out Tractor supply co.

The little Sanger that Tom now has had one of these badboys, I personally hate 'em, the new horse trailer couplings are pretty cool, I will try to hunt down a picture or two...
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2008, 10:41:51 PM »
yeah, those are called 'bulldog couplers' very wierd design, also used on light-duty dump trailers if i remember right.

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« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2008, 02:13:48 PM »
LB Superjet, is it leagal to run the chain like that?  I need to put chains on my trailer but I dont weld! I'v seen them bolted on. I'll also be changing my toung, I just hate drilling holes on any trailer! But hell I need to paint it any way!
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« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2008, 02:50:53 PM »
A lot of v-drive guys really like this style (myself included). I heard they can be bought brand new in nor cal.

Well if ya want it ill send it to you when i do my swap ???
http://www.jcwhitney.com/FULTON-PERFORMANCE-PRODUCTS-HANDWHEEL-TRAILER-COUPLERS/GP_2004422_N_111+10201+600002434_10101.jcw

Of course it will be in three to four weeks :banghead:

 


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