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California just got a whole lot more dangerous
« on: May 23, 2011, 11:29:57 PM »
Supreme Court orders release of over 30,000 prisoners in CA to … improve health care

California will have to release over 30,000 inmates from its prison system to comply with a Supreme Court ruling earlier today.  The court cited chronic violations of inmates’ rights in its 5-4 decision.  The reductions will improve the delivery of health care services to the remaining inmates, claims the majority:

    The Supreme Court on Monday endorsed a court order requiring California to cut its prison population by tens of thousands of inmates to improve health care for those who remain behind bars.

    The court said in a 5-4 decision that the reduction is “required by the Constitution” to correct longstanding violations of inmates’ rights. The order mandates a prison population of no more than 110,000 inmates, still far above the system’s designed capacity.

    There are more than 142,000 inmates in the state’s 33 adult prisons, meaning roughly 32,000 inmates will need to be transferred to other jurisdictions or released.

Anthony Kennedy joined the four liberal jurists in the decision, while the four conservatives were aghast at the implications.  Calling the ruling “perhaps the most radical injunction issued by a court in our nation’s history,” Antonin Scalia’s dissent predicted a higher number of releases, 46,000.  Those may end up going to county jurisdictions rather than state prisons, or perhaps sent to other states with more room in their penal system, but that will cost California money the state simply doesn’t have.

The immediate effect of the order will almost certainly be a large-scale release.  That will increase pressure on an already-overburdened parole system and send career criminals back to ply their trade in communities throughout the state — and the country.  The increased costs on communities won’t help the state improve medical care to prisoners; it’s more likely to sap the state’s treasury.

This poses other questions as well.  What is California supposed to do with convicts now?  If they can’t add to the current level of inmates, then they’re going to have to release even more on a one-for-one basis, putting revolving doors on the prisons again.  The same will be true in other states, which had joined California in opposing the order, which now have to operate under a new Supreme Court mandate on prison populations.
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Re: California just got a whole lot more dangerous
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2011, 12:04:00 AM »
 I have a solution for this.  Reopen Alcatraz for one, then send any prisoner that cant/wont speak English back to there country of origin.   
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Re: California just got a whole lot more dangerous
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2011, 05:01:08 AM »
I got a solution too 46,001 bullets will do! You only get one miss! Ammo up california it aint gonna be pretty...i figure a good percentage will be heading here to vegas too!


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Re: California just got a whole lot more dangerous
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2011, 06:02:18 AM »
i have no problem slamming the criminals in prision, but i wonder how many are pot offences, the US has the highest population of people[o/o] in prision than any other country from what i understand

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Re: California just got a whole lot more dangerous
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2011, 08:02:50 PM »
I too actually found myself asking myself some questions

#1 have these immates been somewhat rehabilitated to the point they wont be a burden on society, and end up just going back anyway?
#2 how many of these people just have minor offenses such as pot?
#3 how many of the gang members and actuall menaces to society are gonna be heading to vegas?

Revert back to #3- I love that we have wonderful carrying laws here in nevada, we are actually allowed to hip a sidearm here in nevada, and not even conceal it! And in most cases actually any other town you goto in nevada "besides las vegas" most people do hip a sidearm!

once again im just saying!


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Re: California just got a whole lot more dangerous
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2011, 08:24:31 PM »
Arizona is awesome. can conceal a weapon with no permit required.  >:D  >:D  >:D
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2011, 08:37:23 PM »
Serious and violent crimes are down BIG TIME in the last 10 yrs. in Cali.    Why do you think that is?

Because we have locking the mo fo's up!   AND we have built NO new prisons and now we are bursting at the seams.   You don't go to state prison for lame ass offenses like smoking pot.  Selling/transporting kilos with a gun under the seat?   That ain't just a kid smoking pot.

I don't feel any safer knowing these guys are coming out.   I don't want to shoot anybody because they are stupid enough to break into my house.   That will not end well for me either.   I got some interesting stats that I'll try to put up later.
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