SoCal Jet Boats
Discussion => Boat Racing => Topic started by: Luckie Stiff on December 13, 2009, 11:32:18 AM
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Ok kids, with all the talk of racing, combined with the winter doldrums, here's a poll for you.
Please be honest, this is something I'd like to do, but if there aren't enough boats, then I won't waste my time.
Thanks
Skip
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with help i can do it :thumbup:
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Limited number of funds, which makes limited number of races.... :thumbup:
Fo Sho ;)
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im voting maybe, because...funding hasnt been so well for me here lately and need to get my shit in order....would also need a different hull...from my research tahiti's were not stable after 70ish mph....so really a faster hull would be safer as well
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im voting maybe, because...funding hasnt been so well for me here lately and need to get my shit in order....would also need a different hull...from my research tahiti's were not stable after 70ish mph....so really a faster hull would be safer as well
You don't need another hull, in a circle race with NJ rules, you'd be lucky to average 70!
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I'd seriously be interested next year if my Job keeps up :thumbup: I've been disappointed because I haven't seen N/J or N/E run in a while.... which is the only classes I would consider running.
I forgot the penalties for running over 80.9mph?
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81.0 MPH to 84.9 MPH= loss of lap 84.9
85.0 & Faster = DQ for the wknd
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with help i can do it :thumbup:
I can help with your boat, using your money of course. I can help with a place to crash when the races are in Bakersfield
Let's do this.
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Skip i like it now to get the money >:D
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Skip, depending on finances, my son Vance could run our boat in N/J and get some seat time.
I would still run it in C/J.
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Skip, depending on finances, my son Vance could run our boat in N/J and get some seat time.
I would still run it in C/J.
That sounds like an excellent idea. Think the March race is a realistic timeframe?
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You asked 2 questions in the pole Skip. Build one, or run current. So, I say run current to get started without actually dumpin more money than necessary. Some people may actully not like it. Never met anyone that didn't get hooked, but suppose its a possibility.
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Fixed it Rick, thanks for looikin' out.
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Hey Skip.... Getta hold of 76' Nordic....He's got the perfect boat for N/C...turn key 65mph :thumbup:
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yes if i was going to run i would use my nordic as well
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yes if i was going to run i would use my nordic as well
I assume you're going to put a pump in that beast?
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yeah i got a 150 dolla pump intake has been machined for a shoe/rideplate bowl has had some work on it, and provisions for rideplate gonna be an easy transformation i think
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Sweet! Get that shit done, drag it out here in March.
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it would take me a full year to build a boat
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Then bring the Tahiti
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let alone not having the power...is the concern for physical high blood pressure
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i would run my southwind-legit 75mph
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We talked about this a tad last night, and I now understand it a little bit more. Any induction/engine restrictions? I think Moo would be OK for this, and FUN!!!!!!! But what about Blowers on over 18' craft? lol
Ray
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We talked about this a tad last night, and I now understand it a little bit more. Any induction/engine restrictions? I think Moo would be OK for this, and FUN!!!!!!! But what about Blowers on over 18' craft? lol
Ray
Nostalgia jet is a run what you brung class as long as you don't go over 80.9mph Blowers, turbos, V-12's, inline 4 cylinders, anything you want. Just don't go over the speed limit or you will be penalized.
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Nostalgia jet is a run what you brung class as long as you don't go over 80.9mph Blowers, turbos, V-12's, inline 4 cylinders, anything you want. Just don't go over the speed limit or you will be penalized.
That's how it was explained to me as well. I am happy about that! Speed limit, well, we'll see. What'ya think Nordie? Am I even close to that? ;D
Ray
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you'd be fine ray....like skip said chances of even going above 70 is gonna be damn near impossible
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Seems like we have some interest in this class. Kick Ass! :thumbup:
Here's the rules:
Nostalgia Jet Rules-
APBA & SCSC Revised Nostalgia Jet General Rules
1) Required: Minimum of 4 - 5 Boats.
2) Maximum length of 21'. All boat hulls are to be twenty (20) years or older, or a similar replica of a hull twenty (20) years or older.
3) Entry Fee: $100/average per day, rates may vary.
4) Plus APBA Membership fee (can apply for Single Event rather than full membership). All drivers and riders must be listed as APBA Inboard Endurance members. All drivers and riders must provide proof of a certified FAA or DOT physical.
5) Plus SCSC membership fee - $20/year, or affiliated race site club membership.
6) Certified Life Jacket & Helmet, Per APBA specified rules. Helmet and jacket must meet APBA rule, (ii) For participants in open and unrestrained cockpits, the upper fifty percent (50%) of the helmet must be neon, flourescent, red, orange, yellow, or international orange, and meet current certification. All rookie drivers must place a 1"wide X on the back of helmet for a period on one calendar year. All safety equipment MUST be worn properly per manufacturers specified instructions. Failure to do so will be disqualification for that heat race.
7) Boats to be in safety compliance, Per APBA specified rules. Safety inspections are mandatory and boats must be in mechanically sound condition and pass required APBA safety rules.
No Jet-A-way required.
9) MANDATORY GPS - ALL competitors must have a hand held GPS to compete. GPS must have max speed sensor and recording. All GPS units will be checked prior to and after each race. If the GPS unit is inoperative or does not register or registers a skewed reading, that driver will be penalized one lap. Second offense will result in disqualification from racing at that weekend. A Driver will not be scored and lose any points earned if found to have raced without a GPS on board.
10) Maximum speed 80.9 MPH. Speed will be monitored and recorded by a hand held GPS unit with recall. Any competitor who exceeds 80.9 - 84.9 mph will be penalized one lap. Any competitor who exceeds 84.9 mph will be disqualified for the weekend. Any competitor who is penalized for two weekends will no long be eligible to compete in any future Nostalgia class(es) races.
11) Kill switch is required and lanyard should be attached to driver at all times.
12) Neck collar.
13) Helmet restraints.
14) All drivers must wear long durable pants and a long sleeve shirt. It is recommended that drivers wear a full length, one or two-piece, 1 layer driving suit.
15) Any engine (ci), as many carbs as wanted, injection, super chargers, blowers, turbos, anything including Turbine engines. Any fuel, gas, diesel, etc may be used.
16) Turning Rudder - must be equipped with a rudder that extends at least 4 inches below the lowest point of the jet nozzle housing and has a minimum surface area of 16 inches.
17) Jet-O-vator or Place Diverter adjustable nozzles may be used. A Diverter stop is required and the rooster tail is not to exceed 4?-5? off the water, this also includes fixed nozzle boats. Diverter shall remain in the full down position at all times when operating in or near pit row. Upon departure from pit row, the nozzle shall remain in the full down position until safely on the racecourse.
18) Through bolted loader must be securely attached using 4 - 5/16" black oxide bolts.
19) The numbers must be starting with cj, and per APBA specified rules.
20) The race heat will consist of a minimum of 2 warm-up laps and 4 race laps.
21) Infraction/Penalty for buoy: Hitting a buoy results in one lap penalty. Killing or damaging a buoy results in one lap penalty and $200 fine.
22) Have fun and be safe. Safety is of paramount concern. All rulings by race officials for the Nostalgia Classes will be done to promote and maintain safety. All competitors will operate under that premise and there will be NO compromise for safety.
APBA General Safety rules here:
http://www.apba-racing.com/Forms/2010/010GRR-GSR.pdf
Lifeline Competition Life Vests & Gear
http://www.lifelinejackets.com/ (http://www.lifelinejackets.com/)
APBA Downloadable Membership Form
http://www.apba-racing.com/Forms/2009/MembAppl2009.pdf (http://www.apba-racing.com/Forms/2009/MembAppl2009.pdf)
California DMV D.O.T. Driver's Exam Form
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/dl/dl51.pdf (http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/dl/dl51.pdf)
APBA Resource Page, PDF copies of all forms you need, the rulebooks, etc
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Hey Skip thanks for the info. I am really interested in trying this, seeing as Dave voluntered me :sly: Where's the monetary support Dave ??? ;D One thing I was wondering, is there another class that might be similar to the run what ya brung that they have at some of the quartemile tracks? when I was at Firebird for the races they had a river class, and a few of the guys that I talked to didnt have alot of money tied up in there boats, to got out and race and have FUN. Two older guys kept telling me I needed to try it, because it was not a real money drainer and an absolute blast, and these 2 guys were gray haired, no offense to any gray hairs out there ;D I guess what I am trying to say is I am a little intimidated by some of the bigger wallets out there. How about an anology.... I am a Nascar fan and hate seeing the cup guys running with the Nationwide guys, totally unfair with the cup guys having all the bucks and technology. So to sum it up is there a say ski boat, family boat class, something us little guys can get our feet wet in ??? Maybe move up if we really enjoy it ??? I would think it would really get a lot of interest if people could get their feet wet and not cost a small fortune. The only thing I need to add is about money tied up in boats, hell NO a boat is a hole in the water to throw your money in.. LOL LOL LMK Skip
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Mark- The class you're talking about is Ski Jet, I'm not sure if NJBA still runs that class or not, basically it was a class, where your boat had to resemble the boats you see at the lake, on the river, etc. Seats and ski tows! I know what you mean about the big wallet factor, I'm going to give NJ a try and see how I like it. Maybe if there is enough interest in a Ski Jet type class we could talk to Terry and see about getting one started.
Skip
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I like the Nostalgia jet just for the name, for me it says "old chit"...Thats got me written all over it. :thumbup:
GT
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glenn were not talking old drivers... ;)
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Mark, my boat is river boat, got a floor in it, carpet, seat pedistals, upolstered side panels, no cav plates and CF #'s.
Their always giving me a hard time and asking when i'm going to turn it in to a race boat.
Last year would have been perfect for us to be in a N/J class. The best our little 427 could do was 80.3.
Talk about old, boat is 33 and the driver is 49
Skip, thanks for the links. Downloaded them for Vance.
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Mark- The class you're talking about is Ski Jet, I'm not sure if NJBA still runs that class or not, basically it was a class, where your boat had to resemble the boats you see at the lake, on the river, etc. Seats and ski tows! I know what you mean about the big wallet factor, I'm going to give NJ a try and see how I like it. Maybe if there is enough interest in a Ski Jet type class we could talk to Terry and see about getting one started.
Skip
Thanks Skip, I am still interested in doing the NJglenn were not talking old drivers... ;)
That there was funny Nordie, I dont care who you are :thumbup: :thumbup:Mark, my boat is river boat, got a floor in it, carpet, seat pedistals, upolstered side panels, no cav plates and CF #'s.
Their always giving me a hard time and asking when i'm going to turn it in to a race boat.
Last year would have been perfect for us to be in a N/J class. The best our little 427 could do was 80.3.
Talk about old, boat is 33 and the driver is 49
Skip, thanks for the links. Downloaded them for Vance.
Thanks 76, my best so far has been a 65, floor seats, people, and whatever crap I might have in the boat. So are you interested also ??? Just curious, cause I really am, just a little intiminated
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glenn were not talking old drivers... ;)
My chit is old, I'm not, well, really that old...I could be racing boats older than me.. :thumbup:
;D
as long as the boat breaks more than me, I'll keep going..LOL.. :thumbup:
You funny guy.. ::)
GT
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I was intimadated also, but it was something I had wanted to do since I was a kid.
When you're racing you're so focused on whats going on you don't have time to be nevous. All your senses are in a hyper mode.
And to top it of I have never been involved with a better group of people. I'm having the time of my life and would love to watch my son get into boat racing.
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I like the Nostalgia jet just for the name, for me it says "old chit"...Thats got me written all over it. :thumbup:
GT
My chit is old, I'm not, well, really that old...I could be racing boats older than me.. :thumbup:
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as long as the boat breaks more than me, I'll keep going..LOL.. :thumbup:
You funny guy.. ::)
GT
old, young, toddler it'll be all good go boat racing
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Thats awesome about your son :thumbup: For me it would bring back my days on the 1/4 dragstrip with my 70 Firebird
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Thats awesome about your son :thumbup: For me it would bring back my days on the 1/4 dragstrip with my 70 Firebird
Until you're side by side in the corner :o :thumbup:
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Oh shit, and then your son blows by you, what do ya say but I am proud of you and I taught you well ??? You are a lucky man, my son has 4 legs LOL, and cant drive a boat. I have a daughter that wants to go FAST maybe I can get her to drive!!
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what i would say is your grounded good job ;D
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oh yea and no texting while racing ;D
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That's called "dumbing the tune" when the boy drives.. >:D
GT
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oh yea and no texting while racing ;D
You can't just go and exclude Brad like that!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Hey Skip, can we work around that 21' maximum rule. :sly:
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Proppy thats cheatin ;D ;D
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Aww, come on, its only 2" over the limit. And I promise it wont make big waves. ;D
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Okay.... 76' Nordic....plus my BBF Tahiti for a back up....WE ARE IN...just gotta dial in my Tahiti if ya know what I mean :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Just thinking.....A new set of points in my dizzy....and I can go :sly:
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My boat has seating fo four, carpet and a ski tow. I carry a yard stick to measure fuel, but I am sure if I measured a boat, it would come out to 21 ft (fuzzy math applied). So let us all go out and have fun. While we are at it - how about a 75 mile race, last one to stop for gas wins?
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2) Maximum length of 21'. All boat hulls are to be twenty (20) years or older, or a similar replica of a hull twenty (20) years or older.
Seriously guys, can I get a clarification on this rule. Is this an overall measured length including the pump, or is it an advertised hull length.
Lets say someone ( ::)) had a hull that was sold and registered as a 21' (but is 21' 2"). Would it be legal to run ?
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OK now you and Dave want to run your wake barges, You boys are gonna splash us little guys right off the course :thumbdown: :thumbdown: As for your question Proppy I dont know just getting into it, Skip seems to know the ins and outs tho :sly:
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Lets say someone ( ::)) had a hull that was sold and registered as a 21' (but is 21' 2"). Would it be legal to run ?
It's a 21' in my book, that's what Eliminator said it was, that's what the DMV says it is, let's do it.
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As I understand it 21' hull length, does not include the pump.
I believe in C/J it was changed to 24' overall including the pump.
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In the NJ rules, the 21' applys to the hull length minus pump not to be confused with the 24' overall length that includes pump and pump extensions (ex droop)
Personally, i could give a rats ass about 2", but the rule states 21' and could be a deal breaker if youre neck 'n neck for year end points and someone wants to pull that card on you.
so in short, no, 2" wont stop you from going out to run, but someone could to be a dick and enforce the rule to have you DQ'd because it could mean 1st place vs 2nd place overall for the year for them.
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OK now you and Dave want to run your wake barges, You boys are gonna splash us little guys right off the course :thumbdown: :thumbdown: As for your question Proppy I dont know just getting into it, Skip seems to know the ins and outs tho :sly:
Huh... ???
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Just for shits & giggles, here's the latest, greatest, most up to date revised Nostalgia Class rules per Ross Wallach with SCSC, since it's a local class, SCSC has the final say in this.
A. Inboard endurance:
1. Any hull built before 1982 or splash off of a hull built before 1982, with a length not more
than 23'.
This will include flat bottoms, v-bottoms, runner bottoms or tunnel bottoms.
2. Any powerplant, gas or diesel, with carbruators, injectors, blowers, turbo chargers. No nitrous.
3. Propulsion systems include; direct drive, v-drive, in/out, outboard and jet.
B. Inboard flat bottom:
1. Same requirements in year built and less than 23', flat bottom, runner bottom.
2. Engines, gasoline only. Any carb/induction/blowers/turbos.
3. propulsion system to include direct drive or v-drive.
C. Nostalgia Jet
1. Any jet hull built before 1982 or replica.
2. Engines, gasoline only. Any carb/induction/blowers/turbos.
3. Any jet propulsion drive. The drive will not utilize any jet-o-vator that impairs driver visabiltiy for
a following boat.
D. Speeds.
1. Maximum speed of 80.9 mph. as recorded by a hand held gps unit affixed to the boat or driver.
a. The gps unit will be examined prior to the start of each individual heat and immediately
after that heat. If the gps unit does not register any speed or an obvious lower speed,
that competitor will be penalized one (1) lap. Additionally, if the speed recorded is 81-85
mph. that competitor will be penalized one (1) lap.
If the speed is faster than 86 mph. that competitor will be disqualified and at the descretion
of race officials will not compete in the nostalgia class for the remander of the event.
E. Safety and sportsmanship will be paramount and fostered at each and every event.
1. It is the intention and goal of the nostalgia classes and competitors to have a safe and
rewarding experience, and to allow as many nostalgial racers to bring what they have to race.
2. It will be the competitors responsibilities to have equipment that will pass a safety inspection
prior to each event as required by race officials.
F. The nostalgia classes will be run as a local class through an apba sanctioned event. Any questions
or additional requirements will be addressed through the sanctioning organization(s) prior to the
event.
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well, there ya go. you can run a 30' jetboat ;D
i think its safe to say that 23' and under is acceptable for the jets since its the norm for the NE and NF classes.
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OK now you and Dave want to run your wake barges, You boys are gonna splash us little guys right off the course :thumbdown: :thumbdown: As for your question Proppy I dont know just getting into it, Skip seems to know the ins and outs tho :sly:
I ain't skeeeeeerd ;D It's circle boats.... I think ocean water is expected lol
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I ain't skeeeeeerd ;D It's circle boats.... I think ocean water is expected lol
Ok, You have a good point there, but me being a rookie, and having the tuna barges out there too, well, hmmmmmm ::)
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C. Nostalgia Jet
1. Any jet hull built before 1982 or replica.
2. Engines, gasoline only. Any carb/induction/blowers/turbos.
3. Any jet propulsion drive. The drive will not utilize any jet-o-vator that impairs driver visabiltiy for
a following boat.
Ok, now there's a new question / issue. First rules say 20 yrs old or older, this says 1982 or older.
Lets say someones ( ::)) boat is an 83. First rules say it would be legal, second rules say no. Could an 83 be considered a replica of an 82 ?
You guys in SoCal do know its not 2002 anymore, right ?? :screwy: :banghead:
Ok, You have a good point there, but me being a rookie, and having the tuna barges out there too, well, hmmmmmm ::)
Hey now, watch that tuna barge stuff. My boat probably makes a smaller wake then yours. Besides, I probably wont have it done in time anyway. And when it is done they'll make some new rule to keep me out. :-\
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Ok, now there's a new question / issue. First rules say 20 yrs old or older, this says 1982 or older.
Lets say someones ( ::)) boat is an 83. First rules say it would be legal, second rules say no. Could an 83 be considered a replica of an 82 ?
You guys in SoCal do know its not 2002 anymore, right ?? :screwy: :banghead:
just ignore this rule. its there to keep the word 'nostalgia' true. The word "replica" makes it so vague that you can run any year boat.
Take the CJ53 boat for example. its a one-off D'Cucci. The hull was actually made for an I/O class they race on the east coast, but they laid this one up for a jet. Toby and the Cucci's ran it in NJ for a few years, no questions asked.
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Thanks Brad.
I really hadn't thought about doing something like this with this boat before, I always thought that 21' rule was a total length including pump. Looks like I'm going to have to leave that turn fin under it (its mounted to the left sponson) and see what it does with a jet. With the OB on it it turns left really good, right is a bit sketchy, but left is like its on rails.
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I ain't skeeeeeerd ;D It's circle boats.... I think ocean water is expected lol
Good point Tony! and kinda what I was thinking anyway when it peaked my interest. Over the summer I'm QUITE sure i've navigated the Moo over rougher stuff at Saguaro and Bartlett Lakes here in PHX at speed than I'd ever see in race conditions (Figured that chit out real quick on those lakes, thanks to you guys, Brad, Omar and GT in particular!) If in doubt, check with the Eastsiders on PB, Some of them have witnessed some my shenannigans, (The worst in a 5, at speed , probably 60-65 at the time, in full roost!, on a dare, near dusk, no boats at the dock.)
Tuna boats, wake barges, BRING'EM! I say! Driving is what it's all about. (I say that, and while I figured Moo out for the most part, this Streaker REALLY perplexes me! New cables and a PD, then we'll see where we're at, but drives totally different).
Ray
This whole thing makes me want to bite the bullet and ressurrect my old Bieser and race the damn thing! It IS, or was, more than 20 years old, but would be something short of 21' and, well, maybe a flat bottom, flex bottom, sumpin like that, lol.
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What is the first race for N/J's - West Lake or Ming?
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What is the first race for N/J's - West Lake or Ming?
NJ is on the sanction and schedule for Havasu Landing in January, I won't be ready until Ming in March
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Thanks, I did not notice it on the APBA flyer. :-[
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Hey what happenend to the Puddingstone race, I didnt see it on the list ??? ??? ???
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Another thought...those rules dont say anything about a rudder ??? so is it or not needed for NJ ???
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a bit confusing that one set of rules says yes and the one on this thread doesnt, and if it is needed will the one you have Brad be legal ???
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Hey what happenend to the Puddingstone race, I didnt see it on the list ??? ??? ???
Puddlestone is not an SCSC race, but it is being held, in May. Date TBA.
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Puddlestone is not an SCSC race, but it is being held, in May. Date TBA.
Dammit Skip, I wanted to see how many posts we could get out of him talking to himself....Pretty funny. :thumbup:
GT
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Another thought...those rules dont say anything about a rudder ??? so is it or not needed for NJ ???
If you look up the page a few posts, you'll see the latest, greatest, most up to datest NJ rules I have been given from Ross Wallach, Commodre for the SCSC. It makes NO mention of a rudder, therefore I'm saying you don't need one.
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Build your boat according to this set of rules and I can assure you that you'll be fine.
APBA & SCSC Revised Nostalgia Jet General Rules
1) Required: Minimum of 4 - 5 Boats.
2) Maximum length of 21'. All boat hulls are to be twenty (20) years or older, or a similar replica of a hull twenty (20) years or older.
3) Entry Fee: $100/average per day, rates may vary.
4) Plus APBA Membership fee (can apply for Single Event rather than full membership). All drivers and riders must be listed as APBA Inboard Endurance members. All drivers and riders must provide proof of a certified FAA or DOT physical.
5) Plus SCSC membership fee - $20/year, or affiliated race site club membership.
6) Certified Life Jacket & Helmet, Per APBA specified rules. Helmet and jacket must meet APBA rule, (ii) For participants in open and unrestrained cockpits, the upper fifty percent (50%) of the helmet must be neon, florescent, red, orange, yellow, or international orange, and meet current certification. All rookie drivers must place a 1? wide ?X? on the back of helmet for a period on one calendar year. All safety equipment MUST be worn properly per manufacturers specified instructions. Failure to do so will be disqualification for that heat race.
7) Boats to be in safety compliance, Per APBA specified rules. Safety inspections are mandatory and boats must be in mechanically sound condition and pass required APBA safety rules.
No Jet-A-way required.
9) MANDATORY GPS - ALL competitors must have a hand held GPS to compete. GPS must have max speed sensor and recording. All GPS units will be checked prior to and after each race. If the GPS unit is inoperative or does not register or registers a skewed reading, that driver will be penalized one lap. Second offense will result in disqualification from racing at that weekend. A Driver will not be scored and lose any points earned if found to have raced without a GPS on board.
10) Maximum speed 80.9 MPH. Speed will be monitored and recorded by a hand held GPS unit with recall. Any competitor who exceeds 80.9 ? 84.9 mph will be penalized one lap. Any competitor who exceeds 84.9 mph will be disqualified for the weekend. Any competitor who is penalized for two weekends will no long be eligible to compete in any future Nostalgia class(es) races.
11) Kill switch is required and lanyard should be attached to driver at all times.
12) Neck collar.
13) Helmet restraints.
14) All drivers must wear long durable pants and a long sleeve shirt. It is recommended that drivers wear a full length, one or two-piece, 1 layer driving suit.
15) Any engine (ci), as many carbs as wanted, injection, super chargers, blowers, turbos, anything including Turbine engines. Any fuel, gas, diesel, etc may be used.
16) Turning Rudder - must be equipped with a rudder that extends at least 4 inches below the lowest point of the jet nozzle housing and has a minimum surface area of 16 inches.
17) Jet-O-vator or Place Diverter adjustable nozzles may be used. A Diverter stop is required and the rooster tail is not to exceed 4?-5? off the water, this also includes fixed nozzle boats. Diverter shall remain in the full down position at all times when operating in or near pit row. Upon departure from pit row, the nozzle shall remain in the full down position until safely on the racecourse.
18) Through bolted loader must be securely attached using 4 - 5/16" black oxide bolts.
19) The numbers must be starting with cj, and per APBA specified rules.
20) The race heat will consist of a minimum of 2 warm-up laps and 4 race laps.
21) Infraction/Penalty for buoy: Hitting a buoy results in one lap penalty. Killing or damaging a buoy results in one lap penalty and $200 fine.
22) Have fun and be safe. Safety is of paramount concern. All rulings by race officials for the Nostalgia Classes will be done to promote and maintain safety. All competitors will operate under that premise and there will be NO compromise for safety.
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yes, the one i have is legal.
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Dammit Skip, I wanted to see how many posts we could get out of him talking to himself....Pretty funny. :thumbup:
GT
Why funny ??? Wasn't talking to myself, was asking questions, if I was talking to myself I would have answered, and then it would have been funny :sly:
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To clarify an earlier post. Back in the day the Ski-Jet class was NOT a run what you brung class. It simply had more restrictions than C-J or M-J (Modified -Jet). You had to have off center steering, two seats, Log type exhaust Manifolds, no more than .030 overbore on a Chevy (460), one 750 holley (I had about $1500 in 1977 money in my carb alone), no droop snoot, operable reverse, through deck gas filler, no trim devices. My motor's bottom end would have worked well in a Pro Stock car of the day. All of my valve train was Pro-Stock equipment except for cam profile due to the carb size. My gas tanks were custom 7gal. each. I had more intake hardware in my pit box than our comp boat. I would not take it out for a weekend cruise ,it leaked too much if not running. It ran 93 in the APBA Kilos. Comp Jet was doing over 100.
Nostalge is a great idea for a class as it is a true run what you brung class. Do it & have fun. Don't worry about where you place. Learn from the experience, meet some nice people, say to people you don't even know "I'm a boat racer!!!
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To clarify an earlier post. Back in the day the Ski-Jet class was NOT a run what you brung class. It simply had more restrictions than C-J or M-J (Modified -Jet). You had to have off center steering, two seats, Log type exhaust Manifolds, no more than .030 overbore on a Chevy (460), one 750 holley (I had about $1500 in 1977 money in my carb alone), no droop snoot, operable reverse, through deck gas filler, no trim devices. My motor's bottom end would have worked well in a Pro Stock car of the day. All of my valve train was Pro-Stock equipment except for cam profile due to the carb size. My gas tanks were custom 7gal. each. I had more intake hardware in my pit box than our comp boat. I would not take it out for a weekend cruise ,it leaked too much if not running. It ran 93 in the APBA Kilos. Comp Jet was doing over 100.
Nostalge is a great idea for a class as it is a true run what you brung class. Do it & have fun. Don't worry about where you place. Learn from the experience, meet some nice people, say to people you don't even know "I'm a boat racer!!!
no valvestem seals in the motor eh?
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Now I am wondering, should I give this thot up of running in NJ, I don't see anyone on here talking about it anymore :mad:
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I'd give it up Mark.....Why F/U your boat 8)
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I'd give it up Mark.....Why F/U your boat 8)
And there it is Nancy. You know my situation, as for what happened to the others, whodafuck knows.
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And there it is Nancy. You know my situation, as for what happened to the others, whodafuck knows.
...drama and more drama...lets just all chill...sht happens... :)
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I think a river trip involving many beers is in order...
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The whole time I was restoring my boat, I had the intentions of racing it. I was told that N/J was the stepping stone to C/j. I was of the mind set that I would be racing against others like me that didn't have any or much racing experience. When it came time to race I was told I'd be bumped to C/J. The powers to be told me to stay to the outside and they would watch me to see if they thought I was ok to run with them.
I say stick with it. The way Parker went last Thanksgiving, a 70 mph boat would have gotten a second place between Harold Bruce and Jim Rich. They were the last 2 boats running.
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Don't see the drama....but I do want to run, I want to give it a try, but just not seeing a lot of interest here :screwy:
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Don't see the drama....but I do want to run, I want to give it a try, but just not seeing a lot of interest here :screwy:
X 2....Think it's the Govt. ???...
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Drama ???
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no valvestem seals in the motor eh?
Ken Sperling founder of AFR preped my heads and did cut them for seals. Craig Millet and I went to his shop and did the springs with valves lapped by Ken. My first AFR heads were actually experimental welded cast iron D-port heads that I still have. Porasity problems lead us to use his "new" aluminum heads, same type Grump Jenkins was using at the time. Valve train included Jomar stud gurdle, Crane roller lifters, roller rockers, elipsoidal pushrods, titanium retainers, and HD studs. Crane cam profile I can't remember. Also had gear drive.
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Entry forms are out - time to put up your money.
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Where did you see these
Entry forms are out - time to put up your money.
Where did you see these ???
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http://www.apba-racing.com/internal/show_sanction.php?EditID=10672
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Thanks Bull :thumbup: