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So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« on: November 19, 2013, 01:10:38 pm »
A few people have been asking me about racing and the Tech requirements. Well i am going to try an explain all of it here for every one!
I have not included V-Drive Tech on here. That Can be found on http://www.lucasoildragboats.com/pdf/2012/2012_Rule_Book_Revised.pdf

First of all, you have to belong to an association like; ADBA, CDBA LODBRS, SLDBA,KDBA. It normally runs 200$ for the year
If you belong to any one of these you are good to go for racing with any of the listed associations. You'll get a membership card: Make sure you bring this to the races.
You may buy a one time membership for one race. Normally runs 75-110$ depending on the sanction

NJBA is its own race association, having a membership with NJBA will not allow you to race any Lucas Oil races unless you buy another membership with a LODBRS sanction.

What class do you want to run?
Most races will have a test and tune session for 100$ bucks. or 20 a pass in some sanctions
R/R- River Racer - is a dile in class from 12.00 and slower( This is a Great class to get your feet wet.)
S/E- Stock Eliminator 11.00s
M/E- Modified Eliminator 10.00s
--------------------------------------- Anything faster than 10.00 requires a competition drivers licence. ( You will have to get a FFA type 3 Physical for this licence)

T/E Top Eliminator 9.00s
P/E Pro Eliminator 8.00s
Q/E Quick Eliminator 6.00s 1000FT

The Price of the race is different for each sanction. Its 150+ the parker deal with ADAB is 300$ well worth the $$$$$$

What YOU Need.
*All open boats and PWC’s running 11.99 seconds and quicker will be required to wear ballistic shorts.*

*Helmet Restraints
Helmets must be held on with approved straps, commercially manufactured straps for the purpose of restraining the helmet and preventing its inadvertent removal. Helmet restraint straps must attach to a body harness. They must attach to helmet on the right side, left side and back for open face helmets full face helmets requires the same with front strap added.*

*River Racer, Stock and Modified Eliminator*
All drivers, while on the water, must wear long sleeved shirts, full legged pants, full cover shoes and socks If using Alcohol, Nitro, or nitrous oxide, a fire resistant driver suit, and gloves must be worn.*

**Life Jacket**
*River Racer, drivers in boats that run 100 mph or slower- minimum of Coast Guard approved impact type jacket.*
*Drivers in boats which run over 100 mph must wear an approved torso type life jacket(Life Line Type jacket) which has been commercially manufactured with a harness specifically designed for drag boat racing. Life Jackets must be worn at all times while the boat is on the water.*

*Helmets*

River Racer- DOT helmets allowed
For all other classes Snell certified Helmets must be used

Snell   2005
1/1/2017

Snell 2007
1/1/2019

Snell2010
1/1/2022

What you need for the boat

*Kill Switch*

All open boats must have an electrical ignition kill switch device which will immediately and automatically shut off the engine in the event the driver is thrown from the driver’s seat. All open fuel injected blown boats utilizing nitro-methane for fuel shall be equipped with two automatic kill switches - an electrical ignition kill switch as well as a fuel shut-off device.

*Battery on Off witch*

An electrical power cut off switch (one only) must be installed near the batteries and be easily accessible from outside the boat.

*bilge pump*

All open boats must have an electric bilge pump

*Bow eye*

All boats shall be equipped with a bow eye located at the bow (front) of the boat. All pickle fork type boats shall also have installed an additional towing eye on the inside front tip of the left sponsor or the extreme forward center point of the boat.

*Drive Line cover / loop*

Jet boats may use a 360 or 180 degree cover, a loop as described in the following section, or a device that will deter the driveline from exiting the boat in case of failure. No cover is required if the drive line is covered by the hull or transom.

Jet boats utilizing a drive shaft with one or two U-joints may use a drive line loop instead of a drive line cover.

For shafts longer than fourteen (14) inches, two (2) loops must be used. All loops must be mounted securely through the stringers to support the shaft in the event of a U-joint failure.

*Fire Extinguisher*

A fire extinguisher which is quickly and easily accessible, is required to be in the rear of all tow vehicles used during any sanctioned event. Said fire extinguisher must have a minimum five (5) pound capacity

*Flywheel Cover*

All inboard powered boats must have a three hundred sixty (360) degree flywheel cover made of production cast aluminum (or the equivalent).

*Fuel shut off*

All fuel injected boats must have a quick action push on – pull off fuel shut-off valve, The valve control must be in front of and within easy reach of the driver.

*Holding Rope Deflector*

A holding rope deflector is required on all boats in order to deflect the holding rope over the highest point of the boat and provide clearance from the widest point from the driver’s seat rearward.Construction is to be of 3/4 inch O.D. (outside diameter) x .049 inch wall thickness tubing or any material or combination of materials having the same structural strength and integrity.

* Jet-away/ Pop Off*

R/R, S/E, M/E do not require a jet-away or pop off
T.E. and P.E. class jet boats are required to use either a ratchet type release device or a pressure relief valve. The pressure relief valve is required on jet boats that run 7.99 sec. or quicker. Both mechanisms may be used.

*Pump Loader*

All jet boats are required to have the pump loader secured with a minimum of four (4) size five sixteenths (5/16) inch grade 8 steel bolts. A minimum of two (2) of the bolts must be drilled completely through and secured with nuts. Flathead stainless steel bolts are not allowed.

*Safety Chain*

All trailers must have and use a safety chain.

*Throttle Return Spring*

All boats utilizing carburetors or fuel injectors must have one quick action return spring attached to that part of the throttle plate lever which is connected to the butterfly shaft arm per carburetor. Two quick action springs are required on single carburetor/injector systems. All boats using the “bug catcher” type injector hats must have a spring on both sides of the hat. Throttle spring ends must be looped, and attach between a solid point and the throttle plate lever, avoiding the cable attach point.

*Throttle Stop*

All boats which are equipped with a foot operated accelerator pedal must incorporate a functional mechanical stop in the pedal mechanism which will limit the forward motion of the pedal. The stop must be positioned so as to prevent the throttle linkage from passing over center and thus sticking or locking in a full open throttle position.

What you need for the pit.

ez up's
Buckets and straps( fill the buckets up with water and strap the ez up's down)
generator
TOOLS!! ( bring more that you think you need)
Tables
Chairs
And most important Drinks, food, and beer!!!
« Last Edit: November 19, 2013, 03:27:13 pm by jyeager »
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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2013, 01:30:55 pm »
A few people have been asking me about racing and the Tech requirements. Well i am going to try an explain all of it here for every one!
I have not included V-Drive Tech on here. That Can be found on http://www.lucasoildragboats.com/pdf/2012/2012_Rule_Book_Revised.pdf

First of all, you have to belong to an association like; ADBA, CDBA LODBRS, SLDBA,KDBA. It normally runs 200$ for the year
If you belong to any one of these you are good to go for racing with any of the listed associations. You'll get a membership card: Make sure you bring this to the races.
You may buy a one time membership for one race. Normally runs 75-110$ depending on the sanction

NJBA is its own race association, having a membership with NJBA will not allow you to race any Lucas Oil races unless you buy another membership with a LODBRS sanction.

What class do you want to run?
Most races will have a test and tune session for 100$ bucks. or 20 a pass in some sanctions
R/R- River Racer - is a dile in class from 12.00 and slower( This is a Great class to get your feet wet.)
S/E- Stock Eliminator 11.00s
M/E- Modified Eliminator 10.00s
--------------------------------------- Anything faster than 10.00 requires a competition drivers licence. ( You will have to get a FFA type 3 Physical for this licence)

T/E Top Eliminator 9.00s
P/E Pro Eliminator 8.00s
Q/E Quick Eliminator 6.00s 1000FT

The Price of the race is different for each sanction.

What YOU Need.
*All open boats and PWC’s running 11.99 seconds and quicker will be required to wear ballistic shorts.*

*Helmet Restraints
Helmets must be held on with approved straps, commercially manufactured straps for the purpose of restraining the helmet and preventing its inadvertent removal. Helmet restraint straps must attach to a body harness. They must attach to helmet on the right side, left side and back for open face helmets full face helmets requires the same with front strap added.*

*River Racer, Stock and Modified Eliminator*
All drivers, while on the water, must wear long sleeved shirts, full legged pants, full cover shoes and socks If using Alcohol, Nitro, or nitrous oxide, a fire resistant driver suit, and gloves must be worn.*

**Life Jacket**
*River Racer, drivers in boats that run 100 mph or slower- minimum of Coast Guard approved impact type jacket.*
*Drivers in boats which run over 100 mph must wear an approved torso type life jacket(Life Line Type jacket) which has been commercially manufactured with a harness specifically designed for drag boat racing. Life Jackets must be worn at all times while the boat is on the water.*

*Helmets*

River Racer- DOT helmets allowed
For all other classes Snell certified Helmets must be used

Snell2005
1/1/2017

Snell 2007
1/1/2019

Snell2010
1/1/2022

What you need for the boat

*Kill Switch*

All open boats must have an electrical ignition kill switch device which will immediately and automatically shut off the engine in the event the driver is thrown from the driver’s seat. All open fuel injected blown boats utilizing nitro-methane for fuel shall be equipped with two automatic kill switches - an electrical ignition kill switch as well as a fuel shut-off device.

*Battery on Off witch*

An electrical power cut off switch (one only) must be installed near the batteries and be easily accessible from outside the boat.

*bilge pump*

All open boats must have an electric bilge pump

*Bow eye*

All boats shall be equipped with a bow eye located at the bow (front) of the boat. All pickle fork type boats shall also have installed an additional towing eye on the inside front tip of the left sponsor or the extreme forward center point of the boat.

*Drive Line cover / loop*

Jet boats may use a 360 or 180 degree cover, a loop as described in the following section, or a device that will deter the driveline from exiting the boat in case of failure. No cover is required if the drive line is covered by the hull or transom.

Jet boats utilizing a drive shaft with one or two U-joints may use a drive line loop instead of a drive line cover.

For shafts longer than fourteen (14) inches, two (2) loops must be used. All loops must be mounted securely through the stringers to support the shaft in the event of a U-joint failure.

*Fire Extinguisher*

A fire extinguisher which is quickly and easily accessible, is required to be in the rear of all tow vehicles used during any sanctioned event. Said fire extinguisher must have a minimum five (5) pound capacity

*Flywheel Cover*

All inboard powered boats must have a three hundred sixty (360) degree flywheel cover made of production cast aluminum (or the equivalent).

*Fuel shut off*

All fuel injected boats must have a quick action push on – pull off fuel shut-off valve, The valve control must be in front of and within easy reach of the driver.

*Holding Rope Deflector*

A holding rope deflector is required on all boats in order to deflect the holding rope over the highest point of the boat and provide clearance from the widest point from the driver’s seat rearward.Construction is to be of 3/4 inch O.D. (outside diameter) x .049 inch wall thickness tubing or any material or combination of materials having the same structural strength and integrity.

* Jet-away/ Pop Off*

R/R, S/E, M/E do not require a jet-away or pop off
T.E. and P.E. class jet boats are required to use either a ratchet type release device or a pressure relief valve. The pressure relief valve is required on jet boats that run 7.99 sec. or quicker. Both mechanisms may be used.

*Pump Loader*

All jet boats are required to have the pump loader secured with a minimum of four (4) size five sixteenths (5/16) inch grade 8 steel bolts. A minimum of two (2) of the bolts must be drilled completely through and secured with nuts. Flathead stainless steel bolts are not allowed.

*Safety Chain*

All trailers must have and use a safety chain.

*Throttle Return Spring*

All boats utilizing carburetors or fuel injectors must have one quick action return spring attached to that part of the throttle plate lever which is connected to the butterfly shaft arm per carburetor. Two quick action springs are required on single carburetor/injector systems. All boats using the “bug catcher” type injector hats must have a spring on both sides of the hat. Throttle spring ends must be looped, and attach between a solid point and the throttle plate lever, avoiding the cable attach point.

*Throttle Stop*

All boats which are equipped with a foot operated accelerator pedal must incorporate a functional mechanical stop in the pedal mechanism which will limit the forward motion of the pedal. The stop must be positioned so as to prevent the throttle linkage from passing over center and thus sticking or locking in a full open throttle position.

What you need for the pit.

ez up's
Buckets and straps( fill the buckets up with water and strap the ez up's down)
generator
TOOLS!! ( bring more that you think you need)
Tables
Chairs
And most important Drinks, food, and beer!!!

Awesome Jake. This helps a ton. Looks like I have a couple things to do before the big debut of the tickle my pickle

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jyeager

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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2013, 01:57:09 pm »
No problem Dave! glad to help.  :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2013, 08:18:49 pm »

Awesome Jake. This helps a ton. Looks like I have a couple things to do before the big debut of the tickle my pickle

The Beav

Maybe I can be ready the same time as you Dave. I have been throwing this idea around for a couple of years now.


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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2013, 10:18:47 pm »
Maybe I can be ready the same time as you Dave. I have been throwing this idea around for a couple of years now.


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Do it man

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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2013, 12:49:14 am »
Team SOCALJETBOATS? What you think brad? :screwy: :screwy: :thumbup: :thumbup: :beer: :beer:
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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2013, 10:51:40 am »

Team SOCALJETBOATS? What you think brad? :screwy: :screwy: :thumbup: :thumbup: :beer: :beer:

That sounds like a good idea.....

Hey Jake isn't there some limitations on Cubic Inch per class? Or are classes just based on times?


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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2013, 11:28:22 am »

That sounds like a good idea.....

Hey Jake isn't there some limitations on Cubic Inch per class? Or are classes just based on times?


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no cubic inch limit on R/R - Q/E
It's bracket Racing. So your trying to dial in as close to the number as possible.
NJBA has some classes that have cubic inch like unblown fuel jet, blown fuel jet ect.....


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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2013, 04:57:54 pm »
Jake on a dial in do you still leave heads up or do they stagger the lights?


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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2013, 05:08:11 pm »
A SCJB Team thing sounds pretty cool. I sure would like to try it. Not so sure the other 1/2 would approve.


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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2013, 05:15:01 pm »
Jake on a dial in do you still leave heads up or do they stagger the lights?


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They stagger the lights.  Its a little weird to get used to.
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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2013, 07:13:18 pm »
A SCJB Team thing sounds pretty cool. I sure would like to try it. Not so sure the other 1/2 would approve.


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Do it bud! its so much fun! Its a way bigger rush on the track!
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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2013, 04:53:43 am »
Great post Jake.   Ian and I have been kicking around taking mine out and running River Racer too.   You can't beat the opportunity to test your boat and setup and get some fantastic advice from others and do it under extremely safe conditions.   

Plus, it looks like a hell of a lot of fun..........................john
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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2013, 09:55:25 am »
Great post Jake.   Ian and I have been kicking around taking mine out and running River Racer too.   You can't beat the opportunity to test your boat and setup and get some fantastic advice from others and do it under extremely safe conditions.   

Plus, it looks like a hell of a lot of fun..........................john

It's the best time jonh. Plus you have Austin and Darin and the rest of the white flag guys to help you. meeting those two and picking there brains was one of the best parts of World Finals for me.
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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2013, 05:28:44 am »
It's the best time jonh. Plus you have Austin and Darin and the rest of the white flag guys to help you. meeting those two and picking there brains was one of the best parts of World Finals for me.

Hah!   That bunch of riffraff would sabotage me just for laughs........    ;)
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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2013, 10:14:06 am »
How long have you been racing?

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i dont but im all for stuffin shit in her ass to make her go away :-*

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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2013, 10:29:11 am »

How long have you been racing?

-beerjet-
I think he's that guy who broke that sound record in the plane so has to be a long time.


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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2013, 10:30:09 am »

How long have you been racing?

-beerjet-
he's probably in Parker racing so we won't hear from him


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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2013, 10:34:14 am »
he's probably in Parker racing so we won't hear from him


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I've been watching the races all morning and haven't heard his name called once....
He must not be that good.

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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2013, 07:43:56 pm »
I've been watching the races all morning and haven't heard his name called once....
He must not be that good.

-beerjet-

Is going around a track for several laps 'drag racing'?

Just sayin'


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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2013, 07:46:17 pm »
Is going around a track for several laps 'drag racing'?

Just sayin'


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It's actually a series of passes.
Best 8 passes wins .

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Re: So You Want To Go Drag Boat Racing?
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2013, 12:58:25 pm »

he's probably in Parker racing so we won't hear from him


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I've been around drag boats for around 4 years now, helping different people at races. This was the first year that I could afford to go do it.


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