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'73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« on: February 14, 2009, 02:43:49 PM »
A friend of mine has owned this '73 Kona Jet with a berkeley pump, 468 olds (done right) for the past six years.  He's interested in selling it and I'm interested in buying it.  Would be my first jet boat and am looking for input from you experienced jetters on whether or not it's a good deal.  I'm a seasoned wrencher and grew up jet boating so know it's something I'm wanting to get into.  I live in the SF Bay right now but am moving to OC in June and want a new toy for the summer.  Please let me know what you all think, the more input the merrier.  Thanks!

'73 Kona jet, 468 olds with a 550 cam and 750 holley, keith black 10:1 flat top pistons, stainless big valve K heads, basset water cooled headers with CA legal baffles.  The motor was rebuilt in '03 and only has five trips on it since.  The berkeley pump was rebuilt at the same time, nothing too fancy (don't know the specs on it).  The fuel tank is in the bow on this boat, don't know if that's good or bad, never really seen that on other jets.  It sits on a single axle trailer.  He bought it in '03 for $6800 and will sell it to me for $4,000....

Someone tell me whether or not I should jump on this deal or not.  I appreciate your input.  ~Ken~
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2009, 03:32:14 PM »
dozer has a kona that runs pretty good (even had an olds in it) now has a bbc any way the boat would have to be really clean, as well as have all the pump goodies for me to pay 4k for a boat with an olds. i think you would be making an engine swap in the future so keep that in mind.
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2009, 05:14:28 PM »
Ralph,

What's so bad about the Olds motors?  If this one is fresh and was built right, why would I need to plan on doing an engine swap anyway?  This boat does run pretty good, it's been GPS'd at 73mph...
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2009, 05:25:32 PM »
Ralph,

What's so bad about the Olds motors?  If this one is fresh and was built right, why would I need to plan on doing an engine swap anyway?  This boat does run pretty good, it's been GPS'd at 73mph...
For the money one throws at an olds, you can get a chevy/ford to run alot better and faster.
It looks like the olds was build pretty well and 73 is good BUT, it's an Olds and they are notorious for having oiling issues.
Like Ralph mentioned DOZZER (John) ran an olds, HARD, for a long time and will also tell you that his fairly stock Chevy runs as fast as his built up Olds did.
4K is a bit of scratch and the boat looks it.
If you can sleep at night with 4K, so can I.
I've always believed that the longer you own a boat along with the less money you put into it is what really makes a boat worth buying.
Just be nice to the olds and keeps the RPM's down as much as possible and it should last forever.

One last thing, welcometo the site.

-beerjet-

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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2009, 06:53:24 PM »
Ralph and BJ,

I appreciate your input.  Still considering this deal and continuing to look at what else is out there.  Here's what the owner had to say about the rebuilt engine  (notice the machining on the heads for oil return)  :

its an olds 455/468 bored 060 in a rotler boring bar, finish plateau honed and line honed in a sunnen CV616 cylinder hone. block has been decked in a van norman hydraulic CBN milling machine to correct the RMS surface finish
keith black 10:1 hypereutectic flattop pistons on reconditioned and notched rods
stainless big valve K head s were machined for oil return and have roller rocker tips from comp cams
hold 9 quarts oil, oil resticting lifters, pushrods, valley pan/ tray ect.
550 lift cam which goes perfect with the edelbrock performer and holley 750 double pumper
great boat built well, again the previous owner did all this and i have not changed a thing.


He's been advertising this boat for a couple months now, down to $4K from the original $6500.  Think I could live with the existing price if I wouldn't want to immediately throw a conversion on the trailer to a tandem axle...  Jet boats sitting on a single axle trailer just bug the hell out of me... 


Thanks for the welcoming too...  This site rocks, i'm looking forward to a summer of fun and getting to know everyone.

PS...  I'd much rather find this boat... Eliminator "Bad Attitude"
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2009, 07:00:37 PM »
All that and he went with Hypers :screwy:

Same as , give me a big mac , large fries supersize and a diet coke ???

makes no sense.........
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2009, 07:02:58 PM »
All that and he went with Hypers :screwy:

Same as , give me a big mac , large fries supersize and a diet coke ???

makes no sense.........

Diabetics do that   ;)

No offense there B and B, but step away from the Oldsmobile....for the same dough you could avoid quite a few headaches....

GT
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2009, 07:08:06 PM »
Diabetics do that   ;)
GT

Thanks for the lesson ... ;D
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2009, 07:17:04 PM »
All that and he went with Hypers :screwy:

Same as , give me a big mac , large fries supersize and a diet coke ???

makes no sense.........

Hypers???  What do you mean Sav?

No offense taken GT... I'm here to gain advice before I make the move and become a reg at the SoCal events.
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2009, 07:23:07 PM »
Hypers???  What do you mean Sav?

No offense taken GT... I'm here to gain advice before I make the move and become a reg at the SoCal events.
hypernumetic (sp) pistons instead of forged
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2009, 07:26:11 PM »
Hypers???  What do you mean Sav?

No offense taken GT... I'm here to gain advice before I make the move and become a reg at the SoCal events.

What i mean is why would somebody spend all that good money on good machine work and skimp on the pistons..

Its a catch 22 to some people.. Some people sware by them and others do not.. I went down the same road when i was going to build my engine... I wanted to do it cheap :screwy:
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2009, 07:34:53 PM »
Ahh... Surprised I didn't catch onto that.  Doesn't make sense to me either...  Seems like a lot of good machining and work to be done without using the highest quality parts.  Surely he wanted to save money, especiall if working on Oldsmobiles is more expensive in the first place.  I'll keep my eyes peeled guys, not going to take this deal...  Yet, at least...  Thanks for the help!
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2009, 07:40:05 PM »
If you've got 4-5 grand to drop on a boat, the world is your oyster right now. Give me some particulars and I'll find you a boat, or ten.
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2009, 08:31:36 PM »
If I could find a boat like 2Sav's for  in the $2's with pump, nice interior and good finish... I would be the most stoked!
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2009, 08:32:34 PM »
PS... I'd still beat him to the water too!    :D

I'm catching on, here....
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2009, 08:33:13 PM »
PS... I'd still beat him to the water too!    :D

I'm catching on, here....
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Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2009, 08:34:44 PM »
If I could find a boat like 2Sav's for  in the $2's with pump, nice interior and good finish... I would be the most stoked!

2K less motor ::) i could always use another project boat ;D
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2009, 08:40:03 PM »
Can you put up the pics for that thing Stiffie?  I'm cool with sticking to this forum for now...

Looks a lot like this post from Gilroy (not the same as the clearlake one)... But these boats are not in the $2's...

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/boa/1031533697.html
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2009, 08:43:03 PM »
I figured that since you were going to spend 4 on a boat with an Olds in it, you had a little coin, I'll narrow my search. My money would be spent on that Rogers, it's in Clearlake



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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2009, 08:43:33 PM »
2K less motor ::) i could always use another project boat ;D

Yeah, sounds good to me... What was the guy's bottom line on yours Sav?  Last post I saw for it was $2,300...  You could always use another project boat, huh?  Had three, then four, then three again but only want two...  You're not only a post whore, but a boat whore...  Pick one and stick to it, buddy.
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2009, 08:45:25 PM »
Can you put up the pics for that thing Stiffie?  I'm cool with sticking to this forum for now...

Looks a lot like this post from Gilroy (not the same as the clearlake one)... But these boats are not in the $2's...

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/boa/1031533697.html
I have seen those, they're not too bad...


Here be another one  http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/1030855230.html
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Ray

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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2009, 08:46:56 PM »
Yeah, sounds good to me... What was the guy's bottom line on yours Sav?  Last post I saw for it was $2,300...  You could always use another project boat, huh?  Had three, then four, then three again but only want two...  You're not only a post whore, but a boat whore...  Pick one and stick to it, buddy.

You learn quick ;D
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2009, 08:49:32 PM »
I have seen those, they're not too bad...


Here be another one  http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/1030855230.html

Saw that one, not a big fan of the yellow or the interior...  Besides, I'm looking for a full stringer boat...

Patience is a virtue, I'm not going to jump on just any deal unless it's exactly what I'm looking for.  Plus, I'm not moving to FV until May and if I bought a boat before then, I'd need to find a place to store it.
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Re: '73 Kona Jet, looking for advice...
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2009, 08:54:18 PM »
Saw that one, not a big fan of the yellow or the interior...  Besides, I'm looking for a full stringer boat...

Patience is a virtue, I'm not going to jump on just any deal unless it's exactly what I'm looking for.  Plus, I'm not moving to FV until May and if I bought a boat before then, I'd need to find a place to store it.

Hold the phone there Slick, you don't mind an Olds, but don't like yellow? And how do you know that's NOT a full stringer boat?

Just curious and being sort of an ass... ;)

GT
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Ray

 


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