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Beaveretriever

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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #100 on: May 06, 2013, 12:48:46 AM »
The boat is almost done. We fored it up tonihht and she ran. I did a quick tune on the injection. There is a video but im not sure how to put it up. There are a few critical things left to do but its all coming together.

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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #101 on: May 06, 2013, 07:35:00 AM »
Looks awesome man, at least yours is right side up.....avi is coming fast.
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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #102 on: May 06, 2013, 09:06:48 AM »
You did a bitchen job Dave!!! The injector really tips it off!!
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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #103 on: May 06, 2013, 09:12:34 AM »
boat looks good man, quick question what tire and wheel set up at those on your trailer?
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Beaveretriever

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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #104 on: May 06, 2013, 09:19:42 AM »
boat looks good man, quick question what tire and wheel set up at those on your trailer?

I will have to check on that. I bought the trailer already done. I think the rims are eagle rims with a low profile tire. I can get all the info tonight when im working on it.
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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #105 on: May 06, 2013, 10:44:37 AM »
I will have to check on that. I bought the trailer already done. I think the rims are eagle rims with a low profile tire. I can get all the info tonight when im working on it.

nice thanks i am re-doing my trailer and i like how wide and low pro they are
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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #106 on: May 06, 2013, 12:01:08 PM »
Dave's first fire up

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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #107 on: May 06, 2013, 05:38:57 PM »
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Just Electric

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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #108 on: May 06, 2013, 05:58:56 PM »
sound good dave did you put the fat pill in so you dont lean out
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Beaveretriever

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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #109 on: May 06, 2013, 11:31:22 PM »
I have the biggest pill in there to lean it out a little bit. It was pretty damn fat at the house. I changed it and got it to idle a little bit

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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #110 on: May 07, 2013, 06:54:53 AM »
I have the biggest pill in there to lean it out a little bit. It was pretty damn fat at the house. I changed it and got it to idle a little bit

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Shouldn't a smaller pill lean it out?
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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #111 on: May 07, 2013, 07:37:13 AM »
I believe the bigger the pill the leaner the burn because it allows more fuel to return to the tank and less pressure in the injection system.
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Beaveretriever

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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #112 on: May 07, 2013, 07:47:30 AM »
Little brother you are correct.

The injection works in fuel pressure. So a bigger pull allows more fuel to return to the tank and not down the injector nozzles. The smaller the pill the higher the pressure and the more fuel to the nozzles. It wprks completely backwards from a xarb. The cool part is I only need to change one pill verses 8 jets like on a carb set up O0

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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #113 on: May 07, 2013, 07:54:25 AM »
Little brother you are correct.

The injection works in fuel pressure. So a bigger pull allows more fuel to return to the tank and not down the injector nozzles. The smaller the pill the higher the pressure and the more fuel to the nozzles. It wprks completely backwards from a xarb. The cool part is I only need to change one pill verses 8 jets like on a carb set up O0

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Ok got it. i was thinking the pill changed the amount of fuel delivered, not the fuel returned. cool deal. now get that fucker ready to hit the water!!!
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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #114 on: May 07, 2013, 07:57:06 AM »
Are you running dry headers? A good friend of mine is running a hilborn mechanical injection on a sbc 400 on alcohol in his Datsun drag truck and does all his tuning by egt's and plug readings. He has a setup he got from jegs that puts a probe in both collectors and has a live temp read out from both on a little box mounted on his cage. Pretty neat set up.
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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #115 on: May 07, 2013, 10:00:36 AM »
Are you running dry headers? A good friend of mine is running a hilborn mechanical injection on a sbc 400 on alcohol in his Datsun drag truck and does all his tuning by egt's and plug readings. He has a setup he got from jegs that puts a probe in both collectors and has a live temp read out from both on a little box mounted on his cage. Pretty neat set up.

I am running dry headers. Im basically doing the injection for the cool factor. I have the tunning down pretty good, not great since this is my first time playing with them. I have done tons of reading about them and how they work and how to tune them. Maybe after a few trips ill look into some sort of O2 sensor or a way to fine tune them so i can go really fast. Thanks for the info ill keep it in mind

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Just Electric

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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #116 on: May 07, 2013, 07:28:25 PM »
roger that whiskey tango  ;D yeah i learned alot on your set up from unckle jim brock when we swapped over to the injection set up :thumbup: should b a fun boat
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Beaveretriever

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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #117 on: December 05, 2013, 10:56:49 PM »
Well I think that im going to keep this thread going for the ol Tickle my pickle. This was the original build thread so I might as well keep it and post everything related to my Daytona here. Maybe it will be easier for people to find it as well as pictures.

Here is the latest video I made of it. I posted it up once but then it stopped working.



I will continue to update this baby as I do work on the boat this winter.

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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #118 on: December 05, 2013, 11:29:53 PM »
Well I think that im going to keep this thread going for the ol Tickle my pickle. This was the original build thread so I might as well keep it and post everything related to my Daytona here. Maybe it will be easier for people to find it as well as pictures.

Here is the latest video I made of it. I posted it up once but then it stopped working.



I will continue to update this baby as I do work on the boat this winter.

The Beav

sweet video dave! can't wait to see what your going to do.
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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #119 on: December 05, 2013, 11:38:01 PM »
You already know jake. Lol

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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #120 on: December 06, 2013, 07:52:07 AM »
Nice !  I need to hang around Dave more, I just might learn something.

Do you match the pump flow rate to your maximum  HP / RPM ratings and tune from there ? I need to pay more attention.
 Looking forward to seeing you guys at the river !!!
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Beaveretriever

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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #121 on: December 06, 2013, 10:51:27 AM »
Nice !  I need to hang around Dave more, I just might learn something.

Do you match the pump flow rate to your maximum  HP / RPM ratings and tune from there ? I need to pay more attention.
 Looking forward to seeing you guys at the river !!!

The pump is flowed for max pressure at RPM. From there you tune the injection for the motor using cam specs and motor specs. They are really simple once you can grasp the concept of how they work. I think that they are easier to tune than a pair of carbs. I run smaller injection nozzles than most people but that is a trick I was told to make them more drivable. Mine seems to do just fine unless the weather changes drastically during the day. Like the last big river trip when the monsoon came in on our way back. The stack injection, well any injection for that matter, that is run on gas is super sensitive. I have heard that with Alcohol or E85 the tune up can be off a little bit more and the effects aren't as great. An E85 conversion would be easy for me, but I like being able to fill up where ever im at.

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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #122 on: December 06, 2013, 11:30:10 AM »
You already know jake. Lol

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I know, but ya got some race stuff to do as well right?  ;D
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Beaveretriever

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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #123 on: December 06, 2013, 01:21:53 PM »
I know, but ya got some race stuff to do as well right?  ;D

Maybe yeah  >:D Im going to try and buy a house next year so racing might have to wait, unless I get a big ass raise

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Re: 1981 Eliminator Daytona 19' jet
« Reply #124 on: December 06, 2013, 02:26:24 PM »
I've always loved the mechanical injection setups.  They look sweet.  Are you going to drive a fuel pump off the front of the motor or can you do a high pressure electrical pump?
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