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Discussion => Boat Showcase => Topic started by: Rogers Hopeful on December 24, 2011, 02:01:46 PM

Title: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: Rogers Hopeful on December 24, 2011, 02:01:46 PM
This guy is selling a 71 rogers 16'.  Said its been sitting in a garage since 1980!!!  forward/reverse cable needs to be replaced. steering rack needs to be replaced and trailer had been jack knifed as seen in one of the pics.  doesnt know if motor runs.  Looks to be all original.  what would be a good price to offer?

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Title: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: SuperJet on December 24, 2011, 02:07:31 PM
Fitty bux


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Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: Rogers Hopeful on December 24, 2011, 02:12:19 PM
I was thinking some of offering $3000.  good price?
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: mobboss on December 24, 2011, 02:29:48 PM
 The boat market has taken a really hard hit, in this economee! The boat looks great . but is only worth what the highest bidder is willing to spend. good luck and have a nice holliday.
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: svssr95 on December 24, 2011, 03:01:44 PM
I was thinking some of offering $3000.  good price?


$3000.00 for a boat you do not know runs, needs cable and steering work, and comes with a custom bent trailer is a very good price for the seller.........
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: GlassCutter on December 24, 2011, 03:53:38 PM
IMO $3000 is $1500 too much  .  .  .  and  you  would really, really have to want a 16' boat badly.  :screwy:

Smooth water was easy to find in 1971 but in 2012 I would expect that you would always be wishing for something bigger nearly every time you go out.  It does appear to be in real fine shape appearance wise.   Let us know what you do.
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: 19ftCheyenne on December 24, 2011, 04:47:50 PM
theres some reallllly nice boats out there for 3000 right now!!! tons!!! this things prob worth 1200 max
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: Nixonnow on December 24, 2011, 05:18:06 PM
I agree with 3000 being too much. If I remember correctly sandeggo has a 16 footer and he was saying in a thread somewhere how it was too small for the rollers and such and was rough. If it were me I would look for a bigger boat. Like 19ftDANA said there are nice boats for sale right now for cheap.
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: SuperJet on December 24, 2011, 06:33:00 PM
Like said before, you really have to want a 16 footer. But if you have your heart set on it go for it. I would come in with a first offer of a grand and pay no more than 1500. For all intensive purposes you are buying a hull with mystery parts
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: BIG JOHNSON on December 24, 2011, 07:48:24 PM
All good points...

Had I been a member on this site BEFORE purchasing my boat, I probably would have paid considerably less for it.
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on December 24, 2011, 09:40:07 PM
youre all missing the point. This is a barnyard find. Not some abused boat or someones restoration nightmare with lots of hidden problems.

This boat is here in Boise (I am visiting my parents here) and I thought about just goin to check it out, but I leave back to vegas in the morning. Its a very cool find and worth $3k site unseen. Maybe more. If it runs, all original, unmolested, showroom quality, etc....I'd pay in the upwards $6k range.

Rogers are gems. Even the 16 footers. This isnt a mass produced 1/4 stringer tahiti, sanger, kona, etc. Rogers we're and still are well built boats.
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: Rogers Hopeful on December 24, 2011, 09:51:14 PM
thanks brad thats what i was thinking.  To bad you couldnt take a look at it i would have liked an opinion before i drive up their.
Title: Re: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on December 25, 2011, 03:41:37 AM
:screwy:  for $6k you can get a nice boat that you can even take home without a busted trailer.   theres just too much out there on the market right now.

Ya....there is also a lot of decent dodge neons, toyota camerys, and ford focus's out there.....but id rather take that garaged 1970's mustang/camero/charger/etc.

Get the point yet? The trailer is manageable. It can be fixed and isnt a deal breaker when coming across a gem like that.

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Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: Ralph Brunt on December 25, 2011, 07:13:47 AM
This isnt a mass produced 1/4 stringer tahiti, sanger, kona, etc..

you dont know how many times ive wanted to say this :-X

some guys just dont get it ???
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: BIG JOHNSON on December 25, 2011, 07:34:43 AM
Even if its what you want, I sure wouldn't walk up with 6k to start negotiating..

Think about how much money and time it will take to get it seaworthy. Is the upholstery going to disintegrate when you sit in it being that old?

The major point in a boat purchase is to get the boat you want and keep some hard earned money. You have plenty of ammunition to get it for a low price.

Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on December 25, 2011, 07:56:19 AM
Even if its what you want, I sure wouldn't walk up with 6k to start negotiating..

Think about how much money and time it will take to get it seaworthy. Is the upholstery going to disintegrate when you sit in it being that old?

The major point in a boat purchase is to get the boat you want and keep some hard earned money. You have plenty of ammunition to get it for a low price.

you missed where I said 'showroom condition' for 6k. i didnt say walk up and hand the guy 6k. I said site unseen (aka by looking at the pictures) I would say its easily a $3k boat.

all is relative and of course negotiations of price are to be made during the purchase, but for those of you who called this boat a $1500 boat are wrong. If it was something else, yes, but Roger took pride in his boats and didnt make junk. This boat is in great cosmetic shape for its age.

I'd say its a $3k boat and the price would go up from there depending if the pictures are hiding any lies or not.
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: GlassCutter on December 25, 2011, 06:28:29 PM
Gem or not it is still a 16 footer and will never be a good boat to use anywhere within 6 hours of So Cal on a weekend.   And the paint may be in great shape for its age, but it is still brown. Ewww.
I would pass on it at any price, but that is just me.
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on December 26, 2011, 12:05:47 AM
Gem or not it is still a 16 footer and will never be a good boat to use anywhere within 6 hours of So Cal on a weekend.   And the paint may be in great shape for its age, but it is still brown. Ewww.
I would pass on it at any price, but that is just me.

i disagree. That 16 footer will out handle the chop of most boats that are larger than it. that deep V entry on the bow is a beautiful thing when youre fighting big chop.

The Wriedt my cousin restored is a prime example - it is primarily used in Havasu and it eats n shits the chop out there.  :thumbup:

to each his own.
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: crewchief22 on December 26, 2011, 01:01:17 AM
As an owner of a surviver classic boat I understand what Brad is saying, but I also had to replace the interior and overhaul the engine and pump, and replace cables and on and on and on...

If it's a boat that speaks to you, you'll kick yourself if you don't try to get it.  Take everything you know about the boat and use all the bad to help negotiate the best price you can get, then use what you think you saved and a whole lot more to get it on the water and enjoy it.   ;D 

In the end, it comes down to what you are willing to live with.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: wizard612 on December 26, 2011, 02:06:07 PM
A 16' Rogers is like finding an Austin Healy for a English Sports Car guy.  Not many were made and fewer still are in any kind of shape that this one seams to be.  This is not a boat to go out river racing with. This boat you take out wearing cut-off Levis a Hang Ten T-shirt, flip flops and a straw hat! You have a green Coleman metal ice chest and your skis are made of wood and come in pairs! It should not be towed by anything newer than a 73 Bronco and the tool box you take should have one handle on the top of the lid.  This is a retro boat, don't try to be a 21st century poker runner, celebrate what it is. As for price just ask the guy who would buy an Austin in a bag for $10k.
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: BIG JOHNSON on December 26, 2011, 02:10:49 PM
I'm actually attracted to the camper in the neighbor's drive.

I had an '88 Four Wheel pop up camper just like that years ago and regret selling it.

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Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: N2GLOCK on December 27, 2011, 09:32:22 AM
I saw this boat on another forum and it looks like the guuy knows what he has and it sounds like he wants alot. If I recall he hasn't stated a price. A former employee of Rogers chimed in and it sounds like this may have been one of Rogers first boats. Whether or not that adds to the value is unknown. In this day in age I don't think that boat would be doable in any of our local lakes or the river w/ all the wake boarding and lake lice. My Rogers is a 19' and has full stringers and sometimes the chop is too bad. I don't even wanna know what a 16' w/ no stringers would be like. That boat would be better off w/ a classic jet boat collector who would restore it and never take it out, or if there was such a thing as a classic jet boat museum ith belongs there. Just my 0.02
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: BIG JOHNSON on December 27, 2011, 09:36:02 AM
My girlfriend's dad used to wash roger's boats at weiman marine in bellflower in the late sixties. He earned $8 a weekend so I doubt this is one of the firsts.

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Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on December 27, 2011, 09:38:42 AM
My girlfriend's dad used to wash roger's boats at weiman marine in bellflower in the late sixties. He earned $8 a weekend so I doubt this is one of the firsts.

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different company.

Weiman Marine was Roger's dads company. "Roger's Custom Boats" is the company he started with his dads molds in '71
Title: Re: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: BIG JOHNSON on December 27, 2011, 09:41:56 AM
different company.

Weiman Marine was Roger's dads company. "Roger's Custom Boats" is the company he started with his dads molds in '71

"Oh."

I stand corrected, wrong Roger.

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Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: BIG JOHNSON on December 27, 2011, 09:47:36 AM
My girl's pop's stepdad was an outboard mechanic that had done work there..  he probably had one of the first built by him on his own, but he didn't end up going through with the sale. Roger had told him the deck wasn't matching the hull very well.

I don't know what year he said that was, but he was planning on pulling the boat with his '70 el camino..



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Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: N2GLOCK on December 27, 2011, 11:30:27 AM
My girl's pop's stepdad was an outboard mechanic that had done work there..  he probably had one of the first built by him on his own, but he didn't end up going through with the sale. Roger had told him the deck wasn't matching the hull very well.

I don't know what year he said that was, but he was planning on pulling the boat with his '70 el camino..



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I don't do it often, but I do tow my Rogers w/ my '70 el camino from time to time.
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: BIG JOHNSON on December 27, 2011, 12:17:34 PM
Dejavu..

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Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: 76NORDIC on December 27, 2011, 01:19:43 PM
Very clean ElCamino :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: Rogers Hopeful on December 27, 2011, 02:04:29 PM
Sweet el camino!!!


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Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: N2GLOCK on December 27, 2011, 04:22:38 PM
Thanks, I'd been wanting this car since I was 16 but the owner at the time didn't want to sell.  Finally got her 20 years later.
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on December 27, 2011, 11:24:46 PM
Here is another '71 Rogers Cyclone being towed by a El Camino...

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Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: N2GLOCK on December 28, 2011, 08:39:47 AM
Wow! I really like seeing those old school pics. Wonder what happened to both the elco and the boat. I noticed that boat says Rapberry on the side. Wasn't there a famous boat that was called "Rootin Tootin Raspberry"?
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on December 28, 2011, 08:47:52 AM
Wow! I really like seeing those old school pics. Wonder what happened to both the elco and the boat. I noticed that boat says Rapberry on the side. Wasn't there a famous boat that was called "Rootin Tootin Raspberry"?

yes, thats the old raspberry. I actually had that boat. Found it on the side of this guys house that was gunna chop it up and send it to the dump.

It was painted black with red flames. I sanded it down and threw a junk yard motor in it and raced it in Nostalgia Jet. it lasted a whole 3 laps.  :banghead:

Ron (76 Bonneville) has the boat now.
Title: Re: 71 Rogers. How much?
Post by: whitedog1999 on December 28, 2011, 12:55:59 PM
Great looking  !!!   both pieces !!!! Brad it was fun for a minute..
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