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NORCALWRIEDT

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Dropping the 460 BBF in my '75 Wriedt Montara.
« on: August 26, 2016, 02:38:17 PM »
So I'm going to be dropping in this 460 I picked up into my 1975 Wriedt Montara. My questions are, how important is it to swap from the 77 truck pan, to a 10 quart pan? my uncle says a high volume oil pump is necessary as well. It's a big day cruiser, so I don't see myself hot rodding this thing. Another question I have is,  I'm hearing it's better to go with a more modern 4 point engine mount? Final question is, does anyone know if headers will fit on this thing? or am i limited to logs as this thing has an engine cover in the back like my inboard centurion does, just mounted all the way back. And any recommendations on carb size? not sure if i need 750 or 850 holley. (77 460 with rv cam, and edelbrock intake, and straight up timing gear swap), Any input or tips appreciated!
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Re: Dropping the 460 BBF in my '75 Wriedt Montara.
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2016, 08:40:07 PM »
Starting at the top. 10 quarts are always desirable , but yeah you'll need a longer pick up. Some 10 quart pans come with longer pickups so be selective. The motor mounts 3. Should be ok if you're not going over 450 horse. But four points would be the way to go if you're pushing bigger horsepower. Why would you want to run over the transom headers? You say you don't see yourself Hot Rodding in this Cruiser so logs would be the way to go. A 750 Holley should be ok , you're not hot rotting.
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Re: Dropping the 460 BBF in my '75 Wriedt Montara.
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2016, 09:24:05 PM »
Remember that boats mount the engine backwards from a car, so the pickup and pan need to be properly matched to each other, and to a "backwards" orientation for the sump.  10 may be desirable but also likely overkill for your cruiser application.  Measure carefully to see if you are going to have clearance with them Ford mounted in place.   

Also I don't think you will be able to run OT exhaust as they will not be tall enough to clear the back or your boat.  And if you did you will have to ditch the engine cover completely.
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Re: Dropping the 460 BBF in my '75 Wriedt Montara.
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2016, 11:36:14 AM »
...I'm going to be dropping in this 460 I picked up into my 1975 Wriedt Montara...how important is it to swap from the 77 truck pan, to a 10 quart pan?
The front sump Cobrajet and Marine pans have a slosh baffle in them and you ought to be fine if you are using one of those pans in your cruiser. But if your front sump pan is passenger car style (open/no baffle) then you should upgrade to a pan with the baffle.  A 10-quart and/or rear sump pan is beneficial but not an absolute must in your case. Lastly, if you have the 6-quart F250 rear sump then that can work fine but I'd recommend a few modifications prior to engine install.

my uncle says a high volume oil pump is necessary as well. It's a big day cruiser, so I don't see myself hot rodding this thing.
I feel an HV pump is a wise idea in a jet boat engine and all our jet boat builds utilize them.

...I'm hearing it's better to go with a more modern 4 point engine mount?
If you need one...if your cruiser boat has a sound engine mount system then don't worry about it.

...does anyone know if headers will fit on this thing? or am i limited to logs as this thing has an engine cover in the back like my inboard centurion does, just mounted all the way back.
Headers under an engine cover are not advised unless you have a water jacketed header system . They cost several thousand dollars brand new and I don't think the modest power gains justify the expense

...any recommendations on carb size? not sure if i need 750 or 850 holley. (77 460 with rv cam, and edelbrock intake, and straight up timing gear swap), Any input or tips appreciated!
A Holley 750 cfm shoud be fine in your case; 850 cfm won't hurt.

I can probably walk to your house from mine; feel free to call directly with any further questions.
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Re: Dropping the 460 BBF in my '75 Wriedt Montara.
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2016, 08:34:18 PM »
Well that settles it, picking up some logs, there is no engine mount, it had a three point setup originally but they seem to be obsolete, so I may as well go four point. Thanks for the advice, are you in Los altos?


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