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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: rutkowski35 on April 23, 2012, 08:01:39 PM

Title: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: rutkowski35 on April 23, 2012, 08:01:39 PM
whats up guys have a question , just purchased a 1975 tahiti 455. I crank the motor over the only sound is some what of a loud clicking noise, the belt that is hooked to the alternator and the pulley to the mainshaft pulley does not move at all nor is there any cranking for the starter , does any body have any insight on this problem.
Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: raginaquaholic on April 23, 2012, 08:27:08 PM
Are you able to turn the engine with a torque wrench on the harmonic balancer?
Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: ka0tyk on April 23, 2012, 10:14:05 PM
Are you able to turn the engine with a torque wrench on the harmonic balancer?

id suggest just using a breaker bar over the torque wrench.  if you want to keep any type of accuracy keep that thing in your toolbox. 

take out the spark plugs, and turn it over by hand.  if the motor turns freely then put the plugs back in.  before you go starting your boat, if you CAN, remove the driveline from the PTO on the motor so that just the motor turns and not the pump.  make sure the battery is fully charged at 12v or more, then make sure all your battery cables are clean and tight.  also check your negative from the battery to the block.  if it still doesnt crank, take a wire and try jumping from the battery +12v to the starter solenoid, perhaps it could be a bad ignition switch. 
Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: HDriderTH on April 24, 2012, 08:25:46 AM
Start looking for a motor....
Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: MPKardell on April 24, 2012, 03:12:36 PM
whats up guys have a question , just purchased a 1975 tahiti 455. I crank the motor over the only sound is some what of a loud clicking noise, the belt that is hooked to the alternator and the pulley to the mainshaft pulley does not move at all nor is there any cranking for the starter , does any body have any insight on this problem.

Sounds like a dead battery or corroded/loose battery cable connection to me......
Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: rutkowski35 on April 24, 2012, 04:09:00 PM
okay i did the steps that u had told me to try

1. disconnected all spark plugs and wire
2. cranked engine over by the hermanic balancer once around smooth
 
then tried to crank over and same clicking sound
 then went try the grounds all grounds okay and connected

took wire from battery to starter and just made the mechanical clicking sound
all gauges are on

do this tell me maybe my battery is not cranking enough output
Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: jetjunky101 on April 24, 2012, 04:22:43 PM
have you jumped the starter to see if its working?
Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: rutkowski35 on April 24, 2012, 06:02:50 PM
yes i have took a piece of wire ran it from the battery to the starter and made sure it was working, the starter is making the clicking sound
Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: Havasukona455 on April 25, 2012, 10:35:42 AM
sounds like you got a frozen motor  :-\  you can try smacking the stater while trying to crank it to see if the starter is stuck but sounds like the motor is toast
Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: ka0tyk on April 25, 2012, 11:31:30 AM
motor turns over by hand... assuming your battery is fully charged, and your cables are tight... id look into getting a new starter or starter solenoid. 
Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: rutkowski35 on April 25, 2012, 01:06:36 PM
thanks again guys i'll let u know what i find out
Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: quick olds on April 25, 2012, 07:09:34 PM
I'm with him ^ on the starter bein the prob
Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: BIG JOHNSON on April 25, 2012, 09:18:25 PM
Ok, easy button here.

Are you sure the solenoid is workin?

When you hit the key to start position, hold it there have someone tap the solenoid with a small hammer repeatedly at that moment...

Depends what kind of clicking you're hearing. If you're "actually cranking the ENGINE over, zee belt moves."

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Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: SoCalPSD on April 25, 2012, 09:45:39 PM
Sounds like electrical to me.  Id pull the starter/ battery
and take it to your local auto store to test. If they test good id spend the 20$ on some cables and replace those. Then jump the starter and see if it cranks. That is if the engine is spinning and not seized. The alternator belt does spin when you crank the motor by hand right?

Fat fingered from the phone - Corey
Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: BIG JOHNSON on April 25, 2012, 09:57:03 PM
Solenoid, fellas. I'll buy each and all a beer if it ain't.

Tap that solenoid.

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Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: SoCalPSD on April 25, 2012, 10:26:51 PM
Ill take a coors original.

Fat fingered from the phone - Corey
Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: ka0tyk on April 25, 2012, 10:40:08 PM
bud light platinum. 


wait i said starter/solenoid too.  does that mean i buy myself a beer?
Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: SoCalPSD on April 25, 2012, 10:52:45 PM
If its clicking the solenoid is working if its not spinning the engine is locked/ battery weak/ or the cables are old and no good or just have bad connections.

Oh and I prefer the tall cans. The mountains better be blue lol.

Fat fingered from the phone - Corey
Title: Re: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: BIG JOHNSON on April 26, 2012, 06:42:15 AM
If its clicking the solenoid is working if its not spinning the engine is locked/ battery weak/ or the cables are old and no good or just have bad connections.

Oh and I prefer the tall cans. The mountains better be blue lol.

Fat fingered from the phone - Corey

Solenoid will give a loud click when it isn't working.

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Title: Re: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: BIG JOHNSON on April 26, 2012, 06:43:47 AM
bud light platinum. 


wait i said starter/solenoid too.  does that mean i buy myself a beer?

I see that, just giving the guy a simple way to diagnose a stuck solenoid.

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Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: crewchief22 on April 26, 2012, 06:51:38 AM
I'll play along  ;D

The click could be the solenoid trying to engage the bendix (its job) and the starter motor not spinning (its job). 

My guess would be a frozen starter due to rust. 

Either way, replace the starter and solenoid, inspect/replace battery cables, and double check your wiring harness connections while you're at it.
 
Title: Re: 455 1975 tahiti motor start up
Post by: BIG JOHNSON on April 26, 2012, 07:12:42 AM
I ain't shittin, I'd love an excuse to buy an 18 pack and kill it with y'all.

When I bought my first float, the starter had been submerged and sitting for a long time. Cramps beat the hell out of my solenoid while I held the key turned, starter free'd and spun motor. I then knew to go buy a new starter and solenoid.

My stand up let me float a mile from parker dam. Loud click, solenoid (gets worse when hot)

96 Ford had the solenoid in the inner fender. Loud click/thunk, no startey. Solenoid figgss it.

Golf cart... Just bought a $36 solenoid cause I'd hit the pedal and clicks but no roll.

And where's the pics? Congrats on the new boat.

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