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Santee_Native

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Heads and cam
« on: November 06, 2012, 08:41:46 PM »
Looking to get rid of peanut port heads during the off season. What is a good bolt on head and cam combo out there? This is going to be going on a 21ft open bow river runner. Not looking for anything crazy just a nice top end kit that will wake my motor up.

Thanks for the help
Mike
« Last Edit: November 07, 2012, 03:43:11 PM by Santee_Native »
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2012, 08:59:09 PM »
WTF :screwy:
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Santee_Native

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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2012, 03:53:02 PM »
My bad had a :screwy: moment
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berkbryan

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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2012, 04:07:07 PM »
what engine do you have
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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2012, 04:34:44 PM »
Contact James Bostick , Bostick racing engines El Cajon.

619-792-3885  , Tell him Marc sent you!!!  Really cool down to earth guy.

At the very least just give him a call and pick his brain.
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

Santee_Native

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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2012, 04:42:34 PM »
Sorry about that I have a 454 BBC cast number 10237297. With a 4150 Holley and a tunnel ran intake.
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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2012, 05:51:43 PM »
Pictures??????
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

Santee_Native

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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2012, 06:03:09 PM »

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Your Mom

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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2012, 06:39:38 PM »
Good looking boat...I cant wait till they open San V again...not a fan of elcap.

Santee_Native

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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2012, 06:43:08 PM »
Me neither. This is what happend right after install of new pump  :banghead:
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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2012, 07:03:28 AM »
Looking to get rid of peanut port heads during the off season. What is a good bolt on head and cam combo out there? This is going to be going on a 21ft open bow river runner. Not looking for anything crazy just a nice top end kit that will wake my motor up.

Thanks for the help
Mike

GM's 781 or 049 are a decent upgrade that wont break the bank, I gained ~300 rpm with JUST the head swap (comp XM292 cam), but for the price of getting a set of heads refreshed at the machine shop, I'd probably go with aluminum heads, or something like a set of world products or similar. cam would depend on final comp. ratio and flow of new heads, and what exhaust you are running, or upgrading to. For an easy combo, there is eddy's performer rpm heads and cam, but I think there is some hp left on the table, especially for the cost.

Thats all I got
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Santee_Native

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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2012, 07:26:11 AM »
Think I will go the aluminum route what's a proven head and cam combo? And what lifters/rockers should I get?
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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2012, 07:40:59 AM »
What's a good budget aluminum head? Merlin's are a lil too rich for me.
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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2012, 10:06:17 AM »
Budget alum head???, check for some 'gently' used name-brand heads, in decent shape, dont get chineese crap. With a stock rotating assembly, i wouldnt turn it faster than 5k or so (cast pistons, crank, etc.)

781 or 049 heads, with good springs and valves
good roller rockers, or steel roller tipped rockers
280ah or similar cam .547"/.547", 232*/237* (I'll never use a flat-tappet cam again, I went roller and never looked back)
292ah may be too much for logs and snails

or...
Aluminum heads w/big valves
Roller cam, rockers
forged rotating ass'y (go to 489 or 496 cu.in. while your at it)
9.5-10:1 compression
TT headers

Its ALL cubic dollar$

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obnoxious001

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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2012, 02:00:53 AM »
Looking to get rid of peanut port heads during the off season. What is a good bolt on head and cam combo out there? This is going to be going on a 21ft open bow river runner. Not looking for anything crazy just a nice top end kit that will wake my motor up.

Thanks for the help
Mike

Since the casting number you gave is a Gen 6 block, I presume you already have a roller cam.  I can get that one reground for you for considerably less than you can buy a new roller camshaft for.  You stated you have a tunnel ram and a single 4150 Holley,, but don't say what size the carb is.  Can't see it sticking through the engine cover on the boat.  A tunnel ram may not be your best choice for your heavier boat, and probably lower RPM? 

I would be happy to talk to you on the phone if you want to PM for my number.  The oval port heads that have been mentioned might be the best way to go.  If you are really on a budget I have a set of the peanut port heads that were opened up to the larger oval size. 

First step is to decide what you think you want to spend, and how much you would like to gain and see if those two numbers will work together.
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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2012, 06:57:33 AM »
First step is to decide what you think you want to spend, and how much you would like to gain and see if those two numbers will work together.

Bingo!
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

Santee_Native

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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2012, 08:46:19 AM »
Sorry about not listing carb info it's a 750 vacuum secondary Holley. I'm pretty sure it has a hydraulic cam and not a roller. I just want to get what I can outta my motor it feels weak now that I got my pump redone. I wanna try new heads and a better cam. Before I go all out and pull the motor for a total over haul. And if it does end up needing a over haul ill have good parts ready.
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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2012, 10:48:27 AM »
Did you buy this boat from a deaf guy?
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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2012, 10:57:26 AM »
Sure did
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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2012, 11:49:13 PM »
Did you buy this boat from a deaf guy?
"river rat 34" from ramona, a real nice guy, haven't seen him on the boards for a long time
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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2012, 04:23:32 AM »
yeah he is a good guy, i boated with him a few times.. that boat always ran a little slow but was turn key
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Santee_Native

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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2012, 10:55:17 AM »
Yup it's time too fix the slow part lol
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Re: Heads and cam
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2012, 10:53:33 PM »
Yup it's time too fix the slow part lol

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