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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: surfnshoot on September 28, 2014, 01:09:58 PM
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Bought a new starter but not enough posts. Any way to wire this or get a new starter?
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Sorry. Was missing a bolt in the last pic.
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The missing terminal is for ignition ballast resistor or low oil switch.
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So I'm guessing I need a different starter since I have an ignition ballast?
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The wire from starter solenoid to ballast is for 12volts to coil during starting.
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Bought a new starter but not enough posts. Any way to wire this or get a new starter?
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Imho your best option would be to install a Ford style hockey puck solenoid.
You can then use the (I) terminal on that for the ballast resistor bypass. ..
The new solenoid will also ensure a good signal from the ignition switch "start" terminal.
Simply run a 12 gauge wire from the battery post of the new starter to one of the large lugs on the solenoid, from the other large terminal to the (S) terminal on the new starter.
Then the original wire that went to the (S) terminal on the old starter goes to (S) on the new solenoid and the wire that went to (I) on tyke old stay goes to (I) on the new solenoid.
Don't forget that the body of the new solenoid needs to be grounded.
This is a bulletproof fix IMHO.
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Sorry for my lack of knowledge here. I googled around for the hockey puck solenoid but not finding it. Have a link?
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Any auto parts will have one
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Sorry for my lack of knowledge here. I googled around for the hockey puck solenoid but not finding it. Have a link?
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Just goggle ford remote starter solenoid
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http://www.carparts.com/details/Ford/F800/Motorcraft/Starter_Solenoid/1996/MISW1951C.html?TID=80000000CP&origin=pla&CP=1&CP_SRC=PPC&003=27372932&010=cpmostso96fordf80019921999motorcraftmisw1951c1&c_aid=45534014613&c2cid=1f1112f4-032f-442e-8330-c58ea96951fc&gclid=CKOi6enxhMECFchgfgodWicACw#
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I got one on here already!!! Now let me go back and read best way to wire this.
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I got one on here already!!! Now let me go back and read best way to wire this.
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You may need to use a different solenoid. There are a few different ones out there that have that same frame style. Some of them have a ground terminal where the small terminal needs to be grounded to work. Other ground through the base and the second small terminal marked (I) is the proper one. Make sure the second wire is not labeled (G) or goes to a ground.
Hard to tell from that picture. The part number on the bracket will help identify it.
GT
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That help?
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And the markings.
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That help?
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Still can't read the P/N but there is nothing on the second small post. I don't think it would work if it was the isolated type (using the second post for a ground).
The wire from the (I) terminal on the old starter now goes to the unused terminal on that little guy... It will bypass the ballast resistor during crank only...
You may be able to use the nut from the old starter, do not remove that existing nut on the empty terminal... Get another nut if the old ones you have don't work. I think they are 10-32, but not sure.
That was easy .. ;) :thumbup:
GT
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And the markings.
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Either my eyes are not up to the task, or the picture is too unclear, either way, I can't seem to make it out ...LOL
GT
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There is an I on the post with the wire and G on the post with no wire.
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There is an I on the post with the wire and G on the post with no wire.
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You need the other one... The one labeled "G" will need to have an "I". The one you have will not work.
Sorry I misinformed you earlier when I said I thought it might work.
You need an Echlin (NAPA) ST-404 solenoid.... :thumbup:
Or of course an equivalent. ;)
http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/Relay-Solenoid/_/R-ECHST404_0460790960 (http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/Relay-Solenoid/_/R-ECHST404_0460790960)
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Blue wire looks to go to ignition. White wire goes to positive side of the coil. Are you telling me I need to run the white wire to the ground on the solenoid?
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Blue wire looks to go to ignition. White wire goes to positive side of the coil. Are you telling me I need to run the white wire to the ground on the solenoid?
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Not even close.... :thumbdown:
The yellow (standard Maritime wiring color code) goes to (S) and the Purple (again with the Maritime BS) goes to the (I) terminal.... 8)
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Do you have dual batteries?
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Negative. One battery.
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Negative. One battery.
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Have you traced out the wires going to that slave solenoid? Something does not add up...
Maybe nothing at all, but it's not working in my Rum infused brain... :screwy:
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No I haven't.
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i had this problem and i ran a wire for the b+ side of the solenoid with a diode inline to the b+ side of the coil, that wire from the starter to the coil is to keep 12 volts at the coil during cranking