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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: monster burb on May 10, 2015, 04:40:52 PM

Title: 460 wiring question
Post by: monster burb on May 10, 2015, 04:40:52 PM
I recently pick up a 76 Hawaiian and it Has a 460 in it witch I'm not familiar with at all How should the coil solenoid and ect be wired up thanks for the. Help
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: crewchief22 on May 10, 2015, 04:49:45 PM
Hardin Marine has a variety of wiring schematics available.  This is the engine harness for the Ford 460.

https://www.hardin-marine.com/Instructions/460_Ford_Wiring_Harness.pdf (https://www.hardin-marine.com/Instructions/460_Ford_Wiring_Harness.pdf)
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: monster burb on May 10, 2015, 05:25:42 PM
I'm having trouble understanding the diagram you posted I'm not the smartest cat on the block when it comes to wiring
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: tamsone6 on May 10, 2015, 06:00:56 PM
You running an msd box on that?


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Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: monster burb on May 10, 2015, 06:26:03 PM
No it Has a points set up on it
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: tamsone6 on May 10, 2015, 07:09:34 PM
Switched Positive from the ignition to the positive side of the coil. Wire from the distributor goes to the negative side.  Is the rest of the wiring solid or do you have more to do?


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Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: monster burb on May 10, 2015, 08:59:57 PM
The boat is wired I just wanted to check and see if it's Wright what about the wires to and from the solenoid on the block
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: tamsone6 on May 10, 2015, 10:28:02 PM
The starter solenoid?


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Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: monster burb on May 11, 2015, 12:18:49 AM
Yes
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: tamsone6 on May 11, 2015, 05:45:24 AM
Hot lead from battery to one post, other post to starter and then small wire from the start portion of the ignition switch to the small pole on the side.


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Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: monster burb on May 11, 2015, 10:19:18 AM
There is two small posts on the solenoid should there be wires running to both or just one


One is labeled with an s and the other with an i
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: 76NORDIC on May 11, 2015, 12:33:25 PM
The one with the S should have a yellow wire and the one with the I should probably be a red wire
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: monster burb on May 11, 2015, 09:13:16 PM
The side with the I Has nothing running to it what should it be hooked up to



Is there anyone around SanBernardino that might want to give me a hand and school me on this Ford madness
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: GT Jets on May 11, 2015, 10:20:57 PM
The side with the I Has nothing running to it what should it be hooked up to



Is there anyone around SanBernardino that might want to give me a hand and school me on this Ford madness


The "I" terminal bypasses the ballast resistor increasing the voltage to the ignition coil during cranking to counteract the voltage drop caused by the starter motor.

So "I" on the solenoid goes to "+" on the coil.

GT
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: monster burb on May 11, 2015, 10:25:46 PM
OK I'll run a wire to the could what about the s side Where should that one run to there is a wire hooked to it I just haven't tracked Where it's hooked to yet


And thank-you for all the help on here everybody
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: GT Jets on May 11, 2015, 10:52:40 PM
OK I'll run a wire to the could what about the s side Where should that one run to there is a wire hooked to it I just haven't tracked Where it's hooked to yet


And thank-you for all the help on here everybody

When you put 12+ to the solenoid, it engages the starter motor. So that will likely be a yellow (or yellow with red tracer) wire coming from the "S" terminal on the key switch.

GT
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: monster burb on May 11, 2015, 10:56:17 PM
Got it I'll track down some wires and see what I find I'll post my results thanks bud
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: monster burb on May 13, 2015, 01:00:12 PM
I'm going to the timing on it any recombination on Where to set timing
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: bmcgee463 on May 13, 2015, 01:38:40 PM
I'm going to the timing on it any recombination on Where to set timing
Did you figure out the wiring?
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: Your Mom on May 13, 2015, 02:07:59 PM
I set mine at 12* at idle to get started then 34* all in/3000rpm. I set idle at 1200 on trailer as you'll loose at least 200 under load/in water. 
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: monster burb on May 13, 2015, 07:26:38 PM
Turns out I need a dizzy I pulled it and the gear is worn really thin and even missing three teeth what would cause that and dose anybody have a dizzy they would like to get rid of
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: philofab on May 13, 2015, 07:31:17 PM
Possible incorrect material on the gear. Steel and cast are different.
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: monster burb on May 13, 2015, 07:46:21 PM
Ya it looked like cast pot metal cheap shit
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: H20Nut21Bahner on May 13, 2015, 07:47:14 PM
Turns out I need a dizzy I pulled it and the gear is worn really thin and even missing three teeth what would cause that and dose anybody have a dizzy they would like to get rid of
If just the gear is worn, knock the roll pin out and replace it. Cheaper than a new distributor.
Unless you want a new one ..
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: monster burb on May 13, 2015, 08:06:18 PM
I knocked the pin out but the gear would not come off


What gear should I put on there

Should it be a steel gear also should I pull off the pan and check it
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: monster burb on May 13, 2015, 08:09:16 PM
Here is a pic of it
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: monster burb on May 13, 2015, 08:11:02 PM
Here it is
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: tamsone6 on May 13, 2015, 11:47:59 PM
I'd be a little concerned about the gear on the cam too. If it was mine I'd probably at least make sure to shine a light down there and take a look at the cam gear.


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Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: monster burb on May 14, 2015, 07:29:32 AM
I did as soon as I saw the gear on the dizzy the gear on the came looks OK there is a little mark on it the other than that it looks ok
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: Flusher on May 14, 2015, 07:55:19 AM
Do you have a high volume and/or pressure oil pump?  Without proper bearing clearances, that will wear the distributor gear.

You might need to shim your distributor for proper alignment.

http://www.chevyhardcore.com/tech-stories/ignition-electronics-efi/selecting-the-correct-distributor-gear-its-all-about-the-details/
Title: Re: 460 wiring question
Post by: monster burb on May 14, 2015, 09:58:32 AM
I do not know I didn't build it the engine appears fresh but the guys I got it from said it was built right before he got it he said he ran it then it just sat for two yr now I know why it. There a way to tell with out pulling the motor
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