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Marcsrollin

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Bassett T's !?!?!?
« on: September 04, 2007, 10:38:08 AM »
Has any one running a bassett T ever had a problem with it not opening?
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2007, 10:43:25 AM »
Has any one running a bassett T ever had a problem with it not opening?

I read just recently that too much water pressure can damage the spring and cause it to malfunction.  It didn't say if it didn't open or what.
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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2007, 10:51:00 AM »
i have never personally experienced it but have heard of needing to remove and clean the valve
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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2007, 10:53:20 AM »
i have never personally experienced it but have heard of needing to remove and clean the valve

I need to find a water pressure guage for my boat so I can limit the amount of water flowing to the engine.  Too much pressure can mean blown gaskets.
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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2007, 10:55:40 AM »
Well if you are running through transome headers I would advise aginst it!! Here is a couple of pics why and what could happen!




And then at that point you have two 4 inch holes dumping water into your boat!! And one 1/2 hole ( bilge pump ) dumping it back out! It is a lose lose situation!
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2007, 11:02:59 AM »
Well if you are running through transome headers I would advise aginst it!! Here is a couple of pics why and what could happen!

And then at that point you have two 4 inch holes dumping water into your boat!! And one 1/2 hole ( bilge pump ) dumping it back out! It is a lose lose situation!

Thanks for the warning but I'm running OT Rewarder Headers.  But I did blow a head gasket this last week-end due to too high of water pressure coming in from the pump.
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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2007, 11:09:07 AM »
marc, when i had my tt bassett's i ran double hose. on the end of the header its 3 1/2 inch and then i ran a 4 inch over the top of that, all the hose probs were solved, and i didnt idle too much because its the heat that caused that. and not having enough water to cool the hose
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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2007, 01:28:29 PM »
 :o

so were you able to keep the boat afloat?
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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2007, 01:57:30 PM »
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2007, 02:01:44 PM »
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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2007, 02:07:14 PM »
The trick to running through transom headers is very little "HOSE".  3 1/2" Aluminized or stainless exhaust pipe will help stop that and then use the hose to only hold the joint together. Make sure you cut the pipe to fit. Very smal gapps in any.
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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2007, 02:13:41 PM »
Marc I am sorry to hear your boat went for a dive- as for the t valve, It has stuck on me a couple times and cause one header to go try.  I could hear it imeadiatley and if I tapped it it would start flowing again.  Squirt some wd-40 and your good- dont know much about the water pressure- Are you running baffles???
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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2007, 03:07:12 PM »
Call Jim at Rewarder Headers. He has his own version of the Bassett T-valve. Essentially the same thing, he can answer any questions you have about it sticking etc. He is very honest and Headers for boats is what he does primarily. He is a great guy and if you end up driving to his shop take an interest in the Woody Willy's he's got in there... It's bitchin. Rewarder's number is 1-805-445-1015. I have Jim's cell number if you need it.

I ran Rewarder's T-valve without a hitch and my old Caribbean was on the water 2-3 times a week since march. He gave me a much better price than Bassett too, without the Bassett attitude.
P.S. Rewarder makes their headers in the good ole USA in Camarillo, CA. It is my understanding that a lot of Bassett's stuff is made in Mexico...
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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2007, 03:29:57 PM »
The basset T is coming out and I am going back to a ball valve. That way I can adjust it and if it goes dry it will be my own fault.
The boat is saved and there was no water in the engine and it fires right up!
All I have to do is get some more 4 inch exhaust hose and replace 2 plug wires and my boat is right back on the water.
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2007, 04:12:05 PM »
Marc, run the T-valve regardless. Put the ball valve in front of it... That's how I had mine. The T will keep you from sucking water in during the overlap at idle... The ball valve will always let water through, doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Maybe weaken up the spring in your T or plumb the headers so the water dumps into the collector instead of the individual tubes.  If you don't want to listen to some punk kid (me) please call Rewarder before you decide to run just a ball valve. That was an idea I floated around when I first got a jet boat and put headers on it.
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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2007, 04:18:25 PM »
I plan on putting the ball valve up by the driver seat so I can turn it off at idle and turn it on while running. The bassett t still leaves the possibility of getting stuck shut and that is not a option again.
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2007, 04:25:52 PM »
just an idea......did ya check the lines? i have read many cases of people "burning up" ot headers because the lines got clogged with trash or debris. (ie: plastic bag or lake weed)....this also could also be a possibility....or even clogging your t valve.

I suggest to go with Jim's suggestion....get some aluminum tube and replace as much of that rubber as possible with only using the exhaust hose as a coupler between the riser/tube and tube/exhaust port. This will eliminate that long piece of exhaust tube thats a disaster waiting to happen.

there are other options to the basset T that havent been mentioned....the other is the banderlog vavle www.banderlog.com  ...check it out....electriconicly controled vavle.
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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2007, 04:32:11 PM »
I already planned on using pipe instead of hose , that was a no brainer right away after this experiece.
Here is the ball valve I plan on running! It has high , medium and low water flow settings.
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2007, 05:20:59 PM »
My first thought .

1. The overboard water comes from somewhere near the thermostat housing into a "T"

2. One side is plumbed into your Bassett T valve and then into your injection lines to clean the primaries chrome .

The other side goes the back and splits again so each collector has the rest of the overboard water flowing into it . I hope you werent running a T-valve into your collector hoses . Thats the only way I can see a valve taking a shit and having that happen . T-valves were only designed to be plumbed into your injection lines . Not into your overboard water lines that should be free flowing and unrestriced into the collectors .

I'm interested to see your plumbing Marc . I really hope that was the extent of the damage too .

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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2007, 05:35:41 PM »
When the water comes directly out of the pump I put a brass T , one side of the T goes to a ball valve and then to the engine cooling system and the other side of the T goes to a ball valve then to the bassett T I got from you for the headers. Then I put a water exit in the transome for the water coming out of the engine.
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2007, 05:47:53 PM »
Mike told me today that he's had a Bassett T stick on him. He said that the T had gotten clogged with sand and weeds and crap.
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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2007, 05:51:35 PM »
Your through transome headers should be plumbed almost identicle to this .



1. From your pump into the water pump inlets .

2. Split out of your thermostat housing .

3. One of the lines should go to the T-Valve and then on to your injection lines .

4. The other line should go to the back of the motor and then T-off again to both of your collectors . That is the rest of your overboard water that should have kept the hose cool enough (as opposed to just going to an overboard outlet) . All of your overboard water should be dumped through the collectors .

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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2007, 05:54:15 PM »
Instead of dumping out through the collectors , I just put a out in the transome.
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2007, 05:55:42 PM »
Those T-valves have been know to take a shit just like Rod stated . They do sell the spring and ball seperately also . Fuk bro ! I feel like shit !

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Re: Bassett T's !?!?!?
« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2007, 05:57:18 PM »
Instead of dumping out through the collectors , I just put a out in the transome.
There is no way on GODS green earth the mist that the T-valve lets through could cool that hose enough .

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