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Driveline question
« on: May 19, 2014, 08:42:00 AM »
I need a 1310 driveline. Where can I get a complete one? I called a driveline shop but they asked me for measurements. I dont have my engine mounted yet cuz I figured I needed the driveline first to set the correct angle. Anyone have specs on what I need? All I have is the PTO which says 1310. Thanks
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Re: Driveline question
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2014, 08:53:25 AM »

I need a 1310 driveline. Where can I get a complete one? I called a driveline shop but they asked me for measurements. I dont have my engine mounted yet cuz I figured I needed the driveline first to set the correct angle. Anyone have specs on what I need? All I have is the PTO which says 1310. Thanks

Not sure where your located but U&I auto in San Bernardino is really good with drivelines. Got a full driveline for my race truck for $50 and was balanced


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Re: Driveline question
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2014, 09:09:43 AM »
But the shops are asking for specs which I dont have. I dont have a sample. All I know is that I need a 1310 flange because I have the PTO. I dont have my engine set in either because I don't have a driveline to know where to set it.

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Re: Driveline question
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2014, 09:38:50 AM »
If that is the case just buy an h-bar driveline from jetboatperformance, or any other online vendor.


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Re: Driveline question
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2014, 01:19:14 PM »
What engine do you have? I have a 1310 with a berk spline and a 460 button


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Re: Driveline question
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2014, 01:21:23 PM »
This is what I have


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Re: Driveline question
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2014, 02:07:33 PM »
Are you doing a fresh install with a 4-point mount or rail kit?  Are you planning on moving the engine forward and/or pump setback?
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Re: Driveline question
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2014, 07:12:44 PM »

I need a 1310 driveline. Where can I get a complete one? I called a driveline shop but they asked me for measurements. I dont have my engine mounted yet cuz I figured I needed the driveline first to set the correct angle. Anyone have specs on what I need? All I have is the PTO which says 1310. Thanks
don't know if this is what you need !!!make offer


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Re: Driveline question
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2014, 07:51:09 PM »
Fresh install. Gonna do a rail mount. 454

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Re: Driveline question
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2014, 07:57:59 PM »
don't know if this is what you need !!!make offer


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Re: Driveline question
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2014, 07:18:27 AM »
I'd mount the motor in the best place for the boat and your intended use then order the drive line to spec after the fact. Since I don't know what your intended use is (hot rod or cruiser) but if you are going for speed then motor placement is critical for balance reasons.

If you're building a cruiser, then you probably want to put your motor in a place that leaves plenty of room for your passengers and interior.

Either way, my suggestion is to put in the motor then build the drive line to accommodate the space that is left between the motor and the jet.

As for a shop, I used OC Drive Line in Placentia, their number is (714) 993-6494.
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Re: Driveline question
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2014, 09:46:20 AM »
x2 on the placement.

Check out Just Electric’s 77 sprint redo again thread, http://www.socaljetboats.com/projects/77-sprint-redo-again/msg231505/#msg231505, he did a really nice job on his rail kit.  He had access to a really bitchen jig ah la Jim Brock for setup, but the same can be done with a bear block.  Anyway, you get the idea from the pictures on the driveline alignment.

Make sure that you leave at least 1/8” of gap from bottomed out on the pump shaft to account for hull flex.

You might check out Inland Empire Driveline.  A little closer to you than OC Driveline http://www.ocdriveline.com, but you might find OC’s prices a little better.  Both will ship to you, saving you the hassle driving.

Inland Empire Driveline
4035 E Guasti Rd #301
Ontario, CA 91761
(909) 390-3030

http://www.iedls.com/Driveshafts/Measuring-Driveshafts.asp
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Re: Driveline question
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2014, 11:40:08 AM »
Im building a cruiser....I thought I would need a driveline first so that I can set the engine the correct distance from the jet

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Re: Driveline question
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2014, 12:41:06 PM »
If your engine will be set back all the way, it would be a good idea to have a driveline so that you KNOW how far to set the engine forward from the pump.

If you are setting the engine forward for C/G balance, then you will use a longer custom driveline.

Source a driveline and get the overall length measurement.  Measure from the bellhousing surface of the block to the crank flange (flywheel surface).  Add those two numbers together plus a minimum of 1/8” clearance (some like a little more), and that will determine the fore/aft location of your engine.  You could also mock everything up and then just push the engine/driveline forward the 1/8” minimum while you build your engine mounts.

The important thing is that you have some clearance between the yoke and the thrust bearing snap ring so that the pump shaft doesn’t push against your crankshaft causing your crankshaft thrust bearing (and complete engine) to fail.  FYI, the yoke on the pump shaft can be trimmed a little if you need some extra clearance, but be careful not to shorten the splines too much.  I like one shaft diameter (1.375) of spline engagement, although others have successfully run much less.
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