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YellowJacket

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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2016, 05:41:13 PM »
Just throwing this out there but what about a seized bearing in the pump?
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2016, 05:51:32 PM »
Boat new to us was told jet was rebuilt dominator bought a rebuilt motor just put new 850 on it no difference  in rpm but runs alot better  every where else timing at 34 total fuel pressure at 6 pounds at ideal have to check that on water under load  to see  if I might have a problem  there boat runs great just rpm challenged replaced all gauges and they all stayed the same if I had a bearing  issue  should I have a noise because there is none
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2016, 06:05:13 PM »
Boat new to us was told jet was rebuilt dominator bought a rebuilt motor just put new 850 on it no difference  in rpm but runs alot better  every where else timing at 34 total fuel pressure at 6 pounds at ideal have to check that on water under load  to see  if I might have a problem  there boat runs great just rpm challenged replaced all gauges and they all stayed the same if I had a bearing  issue  should I have a noise because there is none

I would definitely think there would be noise, but I have seen stranger things happen........At least from the automotive industry standpoint. (Not a full time boat mechanic by any means)
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2016, 06:07:09 PM »
What 850 carburetor?  Double pumper?

Square bore?

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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2016, 06:07:28 PM »
Same here old garage  monkey new to this jet boat scene
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2016, 06:54:56 PM »
Same here old garage  monkey new to this jet boat scene

Maybe unbolt the drive shaft and spin it by hand just to eliminate it.....hahaha (you have a eliminator)  O0 If your a old school mechanic I don't see why you would have any problems making the motor run right. :beer:
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2016, 07:19:55 PM »
That's why I'm scratching  my head on this one. Boat runs great just not hitting the rpm s  think I'll try unbolting jet to check one more thing off the list
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2016, 07:23:42 PM »
That's why I'm scratching  my head on this one. Boat runs great just not hitting the rpm s  think I'll try unbolting jet to check one more thing off the list

What carburetor?  Mechanical or vacuum secondary?
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2016, 07:24:50 PM »
850 mechanical holley
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2016, 07:39:27 PM »
This is my pain in the ass want to thank everyone  will test it again Sunday  maybe without  the plug in it if you know what I'm mean
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2016, 07:45:11 PM »
I'm not a genius or anything,  but the firing order looks incorrect.

1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2.
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2016, 07:46:09 PM »
Keep in mind,  in using my phone and am blind in one eye and can't see out of the other.

Lol

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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2016, 07:52:06 PM »
Didn't hurt to check just went and did that and it's  correct  scared me for a second would have to wear the dumas shirt for that one
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2016, 07:53:44 PM »
Wouldn't be my first time
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2016, 07:56:56 PM »
Keep in mind,  in using my phone and am blind in one eye and can't see out of the other.

Lol

GT

I have the same problem..................... :beer: :beer: :beer:
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2016, 07:57:40 PM »
Didn't hurt to check just went and did that and it's  correct  scared me for a second would have to wear the dumas shirt for that one

So here's a dumb one.  How is the HEI wired?

Hopefully to a fairly heavy wire from the ignition switch or a relay,  with no resistor.

I got nothin'.
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2016, 08:26:24 PM »
So here's a dumb one.  How is the HEI wired?

Hopefully to a fairly heavy wire from the ignition switch or a relay,  with no resistor.

I got nothin'.
this is what I got  wire smaller gauge go back to ignition  switch might that  be a problem no resister  anywhere
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2016, 08:34:41 PM »
this is what I got  wire smaller gauge go back to ignition  switch might that  be a problem no resister  anywhere

Hate to keep going down the same road,  I'm sometimes like a dog with a damn bone, did you install that wire with the yellow heat shrink? Could that be resistor wire?

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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2016, 08:35:41 PM »
Also,  the bone again lol,  at what rpm does the timing hit 34 degrees?
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2016, 08:37:00 PM »
That was already there haven't  missed with wiring  to much other than try to clean it up a bit. Wiring was a rat nest
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2016, 08:39:17 PM »
On the timing I think around 2500 to 3000   
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2016, 08:40:23 PM »
Does the hei get a full 12 volts?
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #47 on: April 14, 2016, 08:44:35 PM »
Does the hei get a full 12 volts?

Now you have the bone. Lol

That red wire looks like resistor wire.

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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #48 on: April 14, 2016, 08:46:34 PM »
Now you have the bone. Lol

That red wire looks like resistor wire.

GT
Hey its an easy check!

I know nothing about this old distrusparky stuff...

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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #49 on: April 14, 2016, 08:49:01 PM »
Will check that I'll chase that bone next. Thanks guys
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