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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2016, 09:09:13 PM »
Bone chased  has 12v  thought you might have had something   there got a little excited Damn
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2016, 09:10:39 PM »
Time to get nitrous
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #52 on: April 14, 2016, 09:18:27 PM »
Time to get nitrous

Get it all the way up to 4,000 ground pounding RPM.lol

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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2016, 09:19:27 PM »
Funny my buddy told me same thing. Might just  live with it just a cruiser anyway
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #54 on: April 14, 2016, 09:27:34 PM »
Butterflies open to WOT?
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #55 on: April 14, 2016, 09:34:19 PM »
Yep
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #56 on: April 14, 2016, 09:36:15 PM »
And it's not popping or cutting out at wot? Just gets to s certain rpm and just stops pulling?


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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #57 on: April 14, 2016, 09:39:32 PM »
That might be all she got.  Do you know anything on the motor build?  I've seen stock motors in cruisers max out at 4000 on a good day.  Just my .02


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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #58 on: April 14, 2016, 09:40:05 PM »
Damn Chevy.... Bet that ford next to it in the picture revs a lil higher.......😜


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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #59 on: April 14, 2016, 09:40:22 PM »
Exactly  what happens  runs great all the way through just stops at3900 GPS on phone says 47mph
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #60 on: April 14, 2016, 09:41:21 PM »
I'm starting to think the cam timing is a million miles off.

Do you have a cam card and a degree wheel?

It will be something fundamental.

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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #61 on: April 14, 2016, 09:43:41 PM »
I'm not a big fan on the hei.  There good all around and cheap dizzy but they do have there max. 


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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #62 on: April 14, 2016, 09:44:36 PM »
Damn Chevy.... Bet that ford next to it in the picture revs a lil higher.......😜
your right bit the cam in sounds a little shity.  Haha
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #63 on: April 14, 2016, 09:46:35 PM »
Might be right stock with a small cam that's it. Maybe  time for a Ford to make FordLover and liberty 77 happy
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #64 on: April 14, 2016, 09:54:19 PM »

Exactly  what happens  runs great all the way through just stops at3900 GPS on phone says 47mph
50mph wish a stock 454 is probably bout right. In my 19ft day with a mild built 460 was only 55mph.


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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #65 on: April 14, 2016, 09:57:23 PM »
That's what I'm thinking now. Planning  on going to Elsinore  Sunday. Got to go to Santa Barbara  tomorrow  for a wedding  come home Saturday  and lake Sunday if everything  goes as planned
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #66 on: April 14, 2016, 09:59:53 PM »
Post if you go and I'll see if I can make it out.


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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #67 on: April 14, 2016, 10:00:23 PM »
I sure will
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #68 on: April 14, 2016, 11:58:21 PM »
Exactly  what happens  runs great all the way through just stops at3900 GPS on phone says 47mph
You're not the only one scratching your head. I have basically the same boat, heavy as hell. Most I've seen for rpm is about 4200 at 50-52mph
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #69 on: April 15, 2016, 03:55:39 AM »
I dont know if i missed it or not but have we pulled a spark plug out of this thing yet to see what it looks like?? O0

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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #70 on: April 15, 2016, 04:30:30 AM »
Only other time I've seen this happen was because of too small of a carb but a 850 should be more than enough. Like everyone's sayin depending on the impeller that might be all she's got


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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #71 on: April 15, 2016, 08:57:21 AM »
That's what I'm thinking now. Planning  on going to Elsinore  Sunday. Got to go to Santa Barbara  tomorrow  for a wedding  come home Saturday  and lake Sunday if everything  goes as planned
I'll be out there sunday.. 77_liberty weather is promising would be dope too catch some of those Willies on video this time!
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #72 on: April 15, 2016, 09:18:59 AM »
Poked around on Cranes website and found this-

'H-286-2 2400-6200
 
226  .534" I
236  .553" E
112
Hydraulic Flat tappet'

Leads me to this-
Run a Compression Check. If the Cam has a flat lobe or two, It will not perform, and 'eat' itself up.

Sounds like the Ignition system checks out, as well as fuel.

The lift of that cam, Exhaust especially, might, and I mean MIGHT be getting interference between the valve stem seal and valve spring retainer. (I had to clearance ~.100" on a .578" lift cam, to end up at .040-.050" clearence) that will kill a lobe or 8.

As Glenn mentioned earlier, Cam timing, this would also show up in a compression test.
As would a busted valve spring, bent pushrod.

The other thing thats sticking in my head...timing @ 8* btdc, and 34* btdc at ~2500. 'Typical' GM HEI has 20-22* mechanical advance. The numbers don't add up (28 to 30*, total is what I see)

A bone stock smog '78 wrecker 454, 210 hp (GM spec) pulled 4400 (with an 'A' imp.), on the primaries of a 750 holley.

That (your) 454 is still missing 1000 rpm or so.
Back to basics.

Dan'l

 

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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #73 on: April 15, 2016, 10:08:35 AM »
yeah a flat cam isnt a bad idea.

do you hear any tapping? Something you can do is to cover the exhaust with a couple of towels while its idling to hear if the engine is quiet or not.

i do this every once in a while since mine is so damn loud i will never hear a knock or tap
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Re: Boat won't Rev passed 3800
« Reply #74 on: April 15, 2016, 11:30:30 AM »
On a stock 454 that 850 carb may be too much. Just a thought
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