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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: Tancilitis on February 23, 2011, 06:54:43 PM

Title: Bolting Engine Hoist
Post by: Tancilitis on February 23, 2011, 06:54:43 PM: I was curious if anyone knows the best place/technique on attaching an engine hoist to a 454. Where to bolt to?

thanks

joe
Title: Re: Bolting Engine Hoist
Post by: OC2Vegas on February 23, 2011, 07:00:42 PM: Rear of engine in tranny mounting locations, 4 spots. Same place most of the bellhousing or flywheel cover bolts to.

I used grade 8 bolts and never once was concerned about it falling and that was with heads and intake.

For some reason my mind was thinking stand not hoist.
Title: Re: Bolting Engine Hoist
Post by: lupo1904 on February 23, 2011, 07:05:07 PM: you pulling your motor or wut joe
Title: Re: Bolting Engine Hoist
Post by: obnoxious001 on February 23, 2011, 07:44:50 PM: Quote from: Tancilitis on February 23, 2011, 06:54:43 PM
I was curious if anyone knows the best place/technique on attaching an engine hoist to a 454. Where to bolt to?

thanks

joe

There are a variety of ways that are safe and easy. I use straps instead of chain, but either can work. With a one piece tunnel ram or single plane intake sometimes I put the strap through the intake. The straps I use are rated for about 2500 lbs. If there is no exhaust on the heads, I sometimes use 4 3/8" bolts, one at each corner,, or there should also be some 3/8" bolt holes in the end of the threads on the outboard side. The advantage of using the exhaust is the bolts angle down, less chance the straps can come off. If you use chain, it's a good idea to use some heavy washers on the bolts. You can do it one a single piece of chain if necessary,, opposite corners of the engine.
Title: Re: Bolting Engine Hoist
Post by: Tancilitis on February 23, 2011, 08:23:40 PM: I got a lift plate and some grade 8 bolts . Do you think this will be enough to do it safely?

Yea Chris Im pulling my motor tomorrow, got picker and a stand today. One of my bolts on the jet intake was rubbing on the oil pan, and it started to leak a little bit. Wanna get it dialed before the season..
Title: Re: Bolting Engine Hoist
Post by: ka0tyk on February 23, 2011, 08:31:03 PM: *I* am not a fan of the intake plate mounts for lifting the engine. the intake was NEVER designed to be a structural part of the engine, sure its thick and u could prolly drive a car over it, but about 600 pounds hanging off of it? no thanks.

chain over the top with a bolt in the front and the back into the heads.

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Title: Re: Bolting Engine Hoist
Post by: crewchief22 on February 23, 2011, 09:53:15 PM: I have to remove my intake manifold to get the hoist attached low enough so that I can raise the engine high enough to get it over the transom.

No disrespect to ka0tyk but I would recommend removing the carb just to make sure it doesn't get damaged (all it takes is one slip to damage a carb).
Title: Re: Bolting Engine Hoist
Post by: ka0tyk on February 23, 2011, 11:06:07 PM: Quote from: crewchief22 on February 23, 2011, 09:53:15 PM
I have to remove my intake manifold to get the hoist attached low enough so that I can raise the engine high enough to get it over the transom.

No disrespect to ka0tyk but I would recommend removing the carb just to make sure it doesn't get damaged (all it takes is one slip to damage a carb).

true on removing the carb. i was in a hurry though. better safe than sorry.
Title: Re: Bolting Engine Hoist
Post by: obnoxious001 on February 23, 2011, 11:31:32 PM: Quote from: ka0tyk on February 23, 2011, 08:31:03 PM
*I* am not a fan of the intake plate mounts for lifting the engine. the intake was NEVER designed to be a structural part of the engine, sure its thick and u could prolly drive a car over it, but about 600 pounds hanging off of it? no thanks

I have never seen an issue lifting by the manifold, although many we do that way are sbc. I did lift a tunnel ram 632 complete engine that way recently, as I said,, one piece intake should not be a problem,, got 12 bolts holding it,,, certainly safer than a carb plate with four 5/16" bolts or studs
Title: Re: Bolting Engine Hoist
Post by: River Roy on February 24, 2011, 04:11:52 AM: Removing that dizzy would not be a bad idea when lifting that way also because that outer aluminum casing/housing on them crack easy if a slip occurs.
Title: Re: Bolting Engine Hoist
Post by: TJS Nordic on February 25, 2011, 06:38:02 PM: Here is mine I made. It bolts to the heads. This allows me to install a fully assembled blown motor. It takes me about 5 minutes to bolt it on.

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Title: Re: Bolting Engine Hoist
Post by: 76NORDIC on February 25, 2011, 06:43:36 PM: Ya but TJ, we all know you don't fruck around. You make all your tooling and parts badass :thumbup: :thumbup: