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Knightnight

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Can't find replacement mechanical fuel pump for 460
« on: October 04, 2021, 08:22:01 am »
I have a mechanical carter 0-2208 fuel pump but seems to be weak (almost 40 years old at this point) for a ford 7.5L (460).

I am looking for a marine rated replacement one but I can't find one.

Holley used to make 712-460-11/13 ones but they arent made anymore.
Some people on mer-cruiser said a Airtex 60932 would work but arent made anymore either.

The pump needs the dump valve to the air/flame arrestor as my engine is enclosed for safety purposes. Holley marine rated is 12-460-11 but not made for enclosed engine spaces as it doesn't have the dump value if the diaphragm ruptures.

I can't find rebuild kits either for it.

I contacted Carter and tech said carter M6696 was the replacement one for Carter 0-2208 but not sure if the cam lever is compatible with the ford 460 as the specs only show supporting up for a Ford 5.8L. They said their engineers would check and validate it to see if is compatible with a ford 460.

I don't really want to go electric.
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TrollerDave

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Re: Can't find replacement mechanical fuel pump for 460
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2021, 09:39:44 am »
Have you checked with CP?

https://www.cpperformance.com/c-276-mechanical-fuel-pumps.aspx


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TrollerDave

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Re: Can't find replacement mechanical fuel pump for 460
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2021, 09:46:40 am »
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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: Can't find replacement mechanical fuel pump for 460
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2021, 12:21:56 pm »
highly recommend the Claysmith Fuel pump...been running one 10+ years without any issues.

https://www.claysmithcams.com/clay-smith-big-block-ford-mechanical-high-volume-fuel-pump/
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Knightnight

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Re: Can't find replacement mechanical fuel pump for 460
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2021, 03:06:31 pm »
Out of stock on the clay Smith and I didn't see if it fit a 460 or not, plus I think you need a regulator also which is way over kill for me.

I called summit but they don't sell the holley marine one rated for enclosed spaces anymore. Waiting for feedback on the if the Carter one will work.
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Nick

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Re: Can't find replacement mechanical fuel pump for 460
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2021, 10:37:54 am »
Agree with Brad on the clay smith. A nice U.S. made pump that’s fully rebuildable.

Yes, does require a dead head regulator which is fairly simple to set up.


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Knightnight

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Re: Can't find replacement mechanical fuel pump for 460
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2021, 12:41:31 pm »
So I got in touch with Carter again and further down the rabbit hole with them. They don't make 0-2208 pump anymore nor do they make a replacement for it anymore. They did recommend me a company that makes rebuild kits called Then and Now Automotive. A quick call and the friendly man told me the rebuild kit is CK-137 for any future readers.

https://www.then-now-auto.com/product/ck-137-carter-fuel-pump-kit/ for around $75 shipped.

Holley doesn't make a marine rated one anymore with the dump tube which would be part number: 712-460-11/13. If you don't need a fuel pump for enclosed area you can get the Holley marine 12-460-11/13, again these are not rated for enclosed hatches and don't have the dump tube to the carb/air box in-case the diaphragm ruptures. The -13 requires a regulator, the -11 do not.

Clay smith makes a Ford mechanical fuel pump though I see no where listed that mentions they are USCG approved for enclosed hatch/bilge environments. Will also need a regulator for these. ~$260 total

Last CP performance sells a marine big block ford fuel pump with regulator combo that has the fuel dump valve. ~$260.

The airtex 60392 I referenced, seems to be for mercruiser only. Still not sure if it would fit or not.

« Last Edit: October 12, 2021, 12:54:53 pm by Knightnight »
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Re: Can't find replacement mechanical fuel pump for 460
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2022, 12:34:28 am »
Bust out another thousand aha. Boat life
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Knightnight

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Re: Can't find replacement mechanical fuel pump for 460
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2022, 07:27:28 am »
I was able to rebuild it with a kit from "Then and Now Automotive". My diaphragm was really cracked, matter of time before it actually ruptured and caused an issue. $60 fix.

Fuel pressure is now stable.
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TrollerDave

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Re: Can't find replacement mechanical fuel pump for 460
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2022, 09:06:41 am »
I was able to rebuild it with a kit from "Then and Now Automotive". My diaphragm was really cracked, matter of time before it actually ruptured and caused an issue. $60 fix.

Fuel pressure is now stable.
Glad it worked out. Thanks for posting. Hopefully, it?ll help someone that might have a similar situation.


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