SoCal Jet Boats
Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: LBsuperjet on February 20, 2008, 07:29:57 PM
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before all of my ish was stolen, i had the simple 'inline' carb configuration w/ my holleys...how hard would it be to mount them sideways and make up a throttle linkage? is it a waste of time and money? i just like the looks of it that way much more than inline...so basically the same way as a blower setup, but on a TR...
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does holly still make 600/660 center squirter carbs? that's what i originally had on my motor...twins. thanx for all the help everyone,
Reid
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side ways linkage is spendy and to do it right theres sideways float kits ,yes you can still get 660 (and other) t ram carbs (spendy also Tom
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Normally if your going to run double pumper type carbs you have to mount them sideways and single inlet (side hung float bowls) can go inline. I would not mess with trying to build linkage for sideways carbs when you can buy a complete kit from a couple different companies. I think Offy was the one we sold most often.
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I've always run enderle linkage, they have spherical ends, and a lot of adjustability. Downside is expect to pay $$$$. It isn't the $13 in line linkage from summit.
Sideways are great for tuning, and you can get to everything without much hassle. On enignes like the SB ford, there isn't any room, so you actually have to mount them sideways and reversed (offy does the linkage there) - while others it is no sweat to mount in line, even with the cathedral bowls and secondary metering blocks. All depends on engine and tr.
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nice, so i can still find center squirter carbs? where at? i looked at summit and jegs, and didnt see chit...i maybe missed something, i dont know the first thing about carbs, so the float bowls, metering blocks and shit like that are foreign to me right now..so i need a special kind of carb to mount sideways? then i guess ill just mount inline...thanx for the info...now where can i find the carbs that i had? they were holleys, not sure if they were dp's or not...here's a couple pics of what i had...
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi89.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk219%2Friverat84%2FIMG_9084.jpg&hash=7035f216a58f1a5c6be73b074534e6abe0b842de)
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi89.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk219%2Friverat84%2FIMG_9087.jpg&hash=26751255a98da3a6864919f324dcd5a2f7a5326c)
so whats the story w/ the carbs that i had? to me, they look real old skool compared to what is offered nowadays, or i could be wrong, they just dont look like the original double pumpers that ive seen...what should i go with instead? i just want to get this bitch running nicely for the next couple of years until i figure out something else to screw with lol...thanx again guys,
Reid
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Heres the 660s, thay look pretty close to me, single inlet, same linkage, but your old ones had metering blocks on the secondarys and the new ones dont. Maybe someone changed them on your old ones ? as Tom said, spendy, $1080 + for a pair :( . http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=HLY%2D0%2D4224&N=700+400178+300737+115&autoview=sku
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Metering blocks allow you to change your secondary jets. However, they add about 1/2 inch to the length of your carb. Catherdral bowls, like what are found on the DP series, will also add another 3/4 of an inch to the carb. You had the std bowls.
When you mount them sideways, ALL carbs will fit - inline is where you have issues.
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These are identical to the pair I had. They look great, and work great.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Holley-660-cfm-Tunnel-Ram-Carburetors-BRIGHT-ZINC_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262QQcategoryZ133205QQihZ012QQitemZ220204471545
I called them direct and got them for $550 plus 24 for shipping. If you call, ask for Jim he was the only one there who was willing to work the price.
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You can also add the "changable" jets to the secondaries without the added length of the metering block by using these billet plates http://www.quickfueltechnology.com/home_2.htm
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quickfueltechnology.com%2Fcarb_parts%2Fimages%2Fbillet_secondary_plate%2Fhex1.jpg&hash=98cac0d6d3bc49890fcd29b2d8234de43d639e10)
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These are identical to the pair I had. They look great, and work great.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Holley-660-cfm-Tunnel-Ram-Carburetors-BRIGHT-ZINC_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262QQcategoryZ133205QQihZ012QQitemZ220204471545
I called them direct and got them for $550 plus 24 for shipping. If you call, ask for Jim he was the only one there who was willing to work the price.
dude those things are baller lookin! i want a pair...i might go through these guys, thanx for the tip...
Reid
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For good bone stock remanufactured carbs, I highly recommend Lyle Stahle. He is a carb rebuilder / remanufacturer that rebuilds to Holley specs and uses all Holley brand parts. If you don't see the carbs that you might want, then email him ("ask seller a question") and tell him what you'd like. Also, he's a racer so tell him about your engine build and he has been known to jet the carbs for you/get you in the ballpark, so to speak.
He can powdercoat pretty much any color you want...here's a set of Center Squirters he recently sold:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110215586833
Also, tell that him "Paul Kane" sent you and he'll take good care of you. ;)
LO
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For good bone stock remanufactured carbs, I highly recommend Lyle Stahle. He is a carb rebuilder / remanufacturer that rebuilds to Holley specs and uses all Holley brand parts. If you don't see the carbs that you might want, then email him ("ask seller a question") and tell him what you'd like. Also, he's a racer so tell him about your engine build and he has been known to jet the carbs for you/get you in the ballpark, so to speak.
He can powdercoat pretty much any color you want...here's a set of Center Squirters he recently sold:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110215586833
Also, tell that him "Paul Kane" sent you and he'll take good care of you. ;)
LO
dude those things are clean!...ill check it out, im ready to buy and i just want exactly what i had before so i dont have as many problems lol...thanx lakes!
Reid