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Re: diagrams 460 firing order
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2008, 03:26:39 PM »
Well, that's because of the geometrically different layout of the cylinder heads, Chevy has the left head forward, Ford the right (wrong ;D)..technically the "order" is the same.

The firing order is based on the camshaft, which is why there are two different firing orders for the Ford 289-351 and Chevy 283-400, three if you consider a 180* setup...but not very common.
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Re: diagrams 460 firing order
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2008, 04:36:16 PM »
Quote from: 1980Nordic
yeah but you half to skip the one...so technically thats not the same...

IT'S ONLY THE #1 BECAUSE FORD SAYS IT'S THE #1!!!

The cylinder numbers do not matter one bit!!! It's all about in what order each physical cylinder fires. The number is just a name given to the cylinder by the manufacturer and does not have anything to do with the firing order itself. It doesn't matter which number you start the firing sequence in. It's all in what order each one fires.

Again the world is not flat. Just like the earth rotates, so does the rotor contact in a distributor. It doesn't have a "starting point" per se...you could start at a Ford's #5 cylinder and treat it as the #1 cylinder and go through the firing order just like you would a Chevy, and you will still get the firing order right as long as you go counterclockwise on the dizzy cap.
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Re: diagrams 460 firing order
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2008, 04:59:54 PM »
ok so go ahead and start your timing on the five so your firing order is the same...fords a ford chevy is a chevy...i get what you are saying, but its completely stupid...point your dizzy towards one and call it a day...that is what the manufactures do as well right? when you point your dizzy to number one its not the same i will leave it at that
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Re: diagrams 460 firing order
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2008, 05:12:49 PM »
Quote from: 1980Nordic on September 21, 2008, 04:59:54 PM
ok so go ahead and start your timing on the five so your firing order is the same...fords a ford chevy is a chevy...i get what you are saying, but its completely stupid...point your dizzy towards one and call it a day...that is what the manufactures do as well right? when you point your dizzy to number one its not the same i will leave it at that
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Re: diagrams 460 firing order
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2008, 05:15:44 PM »
Quote from: 1980Nordic on September 21, 2008, 04:59:54 PM
ok so go ahead and start your timing on the five so your firing order is the same...fords a ford chevy is a chevy...i get what you are saying, but its completely stupid...point your dizzy towards one and call it a day...that is what the manufactures do as well right? when you point your dizzy to number one its not the same i will leave it at that

Unless your working on an International V-8, they index and time from #6 :screwy:

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Quote from: Brad @ SoCalJetBoats.com on December 22, 2009, 07:40:31 PM
If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Quote from: IRRebel on June 11, 2011, 07:30:45 PM
Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
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Re: diagrams 460 firing order
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2008, 05:22:51 PM »
Quote from: GT Jets on September 21, 2008, 05:15:44 PM
Unless your working on an International V-8, they index and time from #6 :screwy:

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Re: diagrams 460 firing order
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2008, 05:29:02 PM »
Quote from: 1980Nordic on September 21, 2008, 04:59:54 PM
ok so go ahead and start your timing on the five so your firing order is the same...fords a ford chevy is a chevy...i get what you are saying, but its completely stupid...point your dizzy towards one and call it a day...that is what the manufactures do as well right? when you point your dizzy to number one its not the same i will leave it at that

OK...all I did was offer that bit of advice up for those who are used to working on Chevy's and are working on a Ford 460 for the first time to simplify and make it easier to figure out the firing order of one, and you came on here and debated the accuracy of the advice I gave. You tried to prove me wrong and you weren't able to...I'll leave it at that.
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Re: diagrams 460 firing order
« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2008, 06:05:59 PM »
your advice sucked...i would consider myself fairly mechanically inclined and know my way around...which i would like to think that i am alot like most people on this site...all you did was confuse me more meaning, you probably confused others...im not the least bit impressed..i looked at it from your perspective and made no since so i kept digging until it did...sorry about all this boost i hope you got your questions answered...
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Re: diagrams 460 firing order
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2008, 06:21:56 PM »
Quote from: 1980Nordic on September 21, 2008, 06:05:59 PM
your advice sucked...

Well...I was giving advice on a FORD...what did you expect?  ;D
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Re: diagrams 460 firing order
« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2008, 06:58:56 PM »
Quote from: Jetaholic on September 21, 2008, 06:21:56 PM
Well...I was giving advice on a FORD...what did you expect?  ;D
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Re: diagrams 460 firing order
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2008, 07:03:09 PM »
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Re: diagrams 460 firing order
« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2008, 09:25:12 PM »
Quote from: 1980Nordic on September 21, 2008, 07:03:09 PM
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Re: diagrams 460 firing order
« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2008, 08:33:06 PM »
It's getting interesting in here!!! ;D
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