SoCal Jet Boats
Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: Beaveretriever on July 14, 2008, 10:17:08 AM
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So after my trip to LSA, i have made the choice to change power plants in the GlenCoe. After some deep thought i am going to go with the 454 chevy. Sunday was the first of many weekends to complete the new task at hand. Over the last month or so i have been picking up parts to make this go as smooth as possible. Sunday morning i woke up to a text message for Flytime, telling me to get my ass in gear and get the boat. He talked with Brad the night before and set up a pick up of the cherry picker. So after i took care of some business and rolled my big ass out of bed i cruised over to Flytimes house to pick him up and away we went. The first stop was to Brads to load the cherry picker then to the storage yard to get the boat. We stuck the boat in Flytimes garage and un-hooked the boat from the truck. i had bought some liquid refeshments (Coronas) took them out of my truck to keep them cool in the fridge, well i dropped the damn box on the ground and lost 3 beers right on the garage floor. after a quick clean up we got down to business. the motor came out with ease after a little motovation from a hammer and a big ass screw driver. im going to post pictures and comments about this little motor swap in the boat. i would like to say thank you to Flytime, for the use of his tools and for the help, also to wannabe for taking that big ass paper weight off my hands, and last but not least Brad for the use of his cherry picker and of coarse creating this site which has allowed me to be in contact with all the help.
Thanks All
The Beav
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more pics
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if you see anything that you would like to make yours just PM me or leave a comment, i need to get rid of this stuff to finance my 454
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more pics
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very cool....glad you guys got it out with ease!
too bad about the 'ronas
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Damn rookie dropping my beer :banghead:. The best part is...he left the rest here for me ;D. Pretty easy pull. Now comes a 454BBC. Something tells me it wont go in as easy as this 455 cameout. ???
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the poor beer
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my big ass
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here are some more pics of some stuff i have been doing
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how much for the tunnel ram? my pops maybe looking for one
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sorry the tunnel ram, logs and snails, msd, and tips are all sold
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finished my headers last night, they turned out ok. i think that this will try and help quite down the new motor. these are a set of 5" supertrapps that came off my old race car.
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well tomorrow i go and get my new toy. Flytime and i are going to Riverdads place to get it. Sunday is going to be the day that the motor will be in, hopefully running. everything is pretty much ready to go, so i hope that it goes some what smooth and i get some pictures up of it running. there are going to be a few hands in there helping me, since im not a pro at this. i would like to pre-thanks a few people. Flytime, Beerjet, Brad, and im sure that there will be more. look for some pictures tomorrow and for sure sunday.
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On behalf of the Beav I will give some updates. The motor is in ;D. Took most of the day Sunday and a little over a case of beer but we got that fuker in. NOTHING fit right :mad:. We had to do some major mods to the feet that bolt on to the motor plates among multiple other things. A huge thank to Omar for driving down to the OC help. Without him not only would we still be trying to figure this sh!t out but we would still have beer left over ;D. And thanks to Brad for loaning us his cherry picker otherwise that motor would have gotten really heavy after a while. Still need to do some plumbing but the hard part is over. Here are a few pics of the day. Enjoy.
The Beast
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Omar doing his thing
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Evaluating
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Almost there
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What the hell are we all looking at?
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Looks close enough for me
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A few more.
The proud owner
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No turning back now
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Thirsty
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Time for the dizzy
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Its in
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Vroom Vroom
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Those headers dont look half bad. Nice.
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i like it
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Lookin good. Lets see some comparison numbers, between the olds and chevy, when you get it in the water.
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looks good!!!! Ditto on the exaust!!!
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What a long ass day that was. Everything was looking good when i picked up the motor from RiverDad, and i would sugest that anyone looking for chevy stuff and complete motors give him a call he is a very cool dude and has an amazing house. Well to start off the day i went and picked up the boat backed it up into Flytimes garage once again and then off to the races, or so i thought. The very first thing i tried to bolt onto the motor was the front motor plate, and low and behold i bought the wrong bolts. So off to the hardware store i go for the first time that day/night. Well after the trip to the hardware store to get the right bolts, i was able to bolt the front motor plate on. After we got the motor plates on ,front and back, i measured the feet and they were way and i mean WAY to wide for my little stringers. So out came the grinder and away we went. we finally got the feet to the right width and after about 5 hours of putting the motor in and pulling it out and measuring and re measuring we finally got the motor bolted in. My drive line that i wanted to use wouldnt fit, it was an olds, so we set the motor up to run a shaft that BeerJet had and will let me use or have until i get one that will fit. I would like to extend my greatest thanks to Flytime,Brad,Omar and my little brother who was a great help. He is a great fabricater for his company Diesel exhaust and emissions in Santa Fe Springs and he played a major roll in the install. BeerJet did a great job doing nothing but drinking the beer, J/K. his expertise(sp) was awesome. I just cant say enough about how cool everyone has been that i have met off this site and there willingness to help a fellow jet boat lover. Thanks again guys.
The Beav
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I'm glad everything worked out for you. I was planning on coming over to help but something unexpected came up.
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Hard to believe General Motors made both engines isn't it? It's like going from a Dodge to a Cadillac :banghead:
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Well its been a long time since i have updated the post on the motor swap. no new pictures becuase not a whole lot has been done. i have installed a gear drive set, a new 3HP starter, valve cover gaskets, plugs wires, basiclly the easy stuff. i got my PTO and drive line from BeerJet, Thanks You sir. well between horse shows and honey do's with the lady, i havent done much with the boat sad to say. I will get some new pictures of the boat up soon and hopefully there will be some with the boat in the water..
Thanks for reading
The Beav
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Nice Job Beav , good to see the Guys all pull together ! Tom
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Looking good ;)
Any plans on getting her wet before you put her up for the winter :sly:
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well i picked up some T/T headers from Terry and Nick (cj222) last week and had some time today to work on the boat, so i thought that i would take some pictures of the progress.
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Looks good, are you gonna be ready for Jan 10th? ;D
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Looks good, are you gonna be ready for Jan 10th? ;D
no i dont think so. boatless bob thinks that i should be ready but i dont think so. i need to pull the motor out again because i broke off a starter bolt, and then finish the water lines and then try and start the pig. so the 10th is coming way to fast.
The Beav
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look in good you'll got all day tomorrow to get her ready.
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look in good you'll got all day tomorrow to get her ready.
i work monday thru wednesday night, then off to the Rose bowl. so there will not be alot of work going on this coming week.
The Beav
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ordered some stainless 4" tips and exhaust hose from JBP, and they should be here soon, so look for more post to come.
The Beav
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just recieved the 4" s.s tips and exhaust hose. i got some used ones from JBP that came off one of there boats so that will add about 10 MPH and there polished so there is another 10 MPH the boat should run about 65 moh if it ever gets in the damn water again. i have some pics of the new beautiful tips that i got and the hose. this weekend they will be in the boat and now im one step closer to some water time.
Thanks
The Beav
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Get that exhaust done tonight. You got 3 days to get that boat ready for Elsinor.
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Get that exhaust done tonight. You got 3 days to get that boat ready for Elsinor.
X2 ;D
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here is a quick picture of the new/used tips i got from JBP. they have an internal flapper valve and there FING Sweet
The Beav
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That thing should be installed by now.
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here are a few pics from my brothers phone
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some pics of the progress tonight.
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hey little brother look like you have the wrong size hose on that fitting :screwy:
The Beav
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Good thing you did the reserch on what size fittings and hoses we needed! Every thing you got was one size to big! Guess your used to thinking things are bigger than they really are :D
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Glad to see SOMEONE is finally making some progress on this boat. ;) Way to go Brian. How come Nicole isnt in any of these pictures? Oops...there I go crossing the line again. :banghead: ;D
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Well we finaly got the old girl running this weekend. It sounds good, but the cam drive my bro installed make a lot of noise so I bought a new timing chain and gear set from summit. Other than that it purrs like a kitten
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Here are some pics that I took this weekend. All it needs is the new swim steps I built and new carpet and shes ready to get wet
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Here are some pics that I took this weekend. All it needs is the new swim steps I built and new carpet and shes ready to get wet
Am I the only one not seeing any pics? ;D
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what the hell little brother :screwy: where are the pictures?
The Beav
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ok here are the pics
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the back
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i will download some more pictures tomorrow at work and try to post some more. i even have a video of the boat running and if i can figure out how to load it on the site we can all see that to.
LOOKS GOOD LITTLE BROTHER
thanks
The Beav
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What is the short wheelbase hot rod on top of the office?
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What is the short wheelbase hot rod on top of the office?
And just as important Howed it get there ;)
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looks like a pedal car
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Its a 1934 american bantam delivery model.
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Maby I'll stop soing the diesel shit and start up a boat shop
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when are you going to get those sweet swim steps installed?
The Beav
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I might try to get them on tonight. I'm gonna install the double roller cam drive right now then see how she sounds and then put the swim steps on. When you gonna post those pics brosif? O0
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before i leave work check back in about 2 hours
THe Beav
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here are some pics little brother
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here is a couple more
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this might be the video
http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/bigdavebowles_2007/?action=view¤t=S7001855.flv
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(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi154.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs280%2Fbigdavebowles_2007%2Fth_S7001855.jpg&hash=61dd5d9c254b308580c736ac04c7e9e6f0d40e23) (http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s280/bigdavebowles_2007/?action=view¤t=S7001855.flv)
i think this is better
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That's SWEET bro!!! ;D
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nice job RSS, now lets drop a Red Ram hemi in that gasser Bantam...Whoohoooo!!!!
p-jet
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You've got that thing runnin' great snapper slapper....did you put a gear drive in that thing? It sure does humm along nicely, or maybe that is just the low sound quality of my laptop.
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Had a gear drive in it I just finnished installing the new billet double roller in her. That gear drive sounded bitchen but would get annoying real fast that thing was fuckn loud. Now she sounds real nice those headers sound good.
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here it is boys! 98% done
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the new wiring
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hey bri you have my picture of the sticker?
Big Brother
The Beav
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the swim steps i built
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yup
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heres the swim steps
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the new carpet
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where is the radio? :D :D :D
the beav
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shit i thought something was missing when i pulled it back in the shop. thats what i get for leaving the boat outside in santa fe springs
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ha ha ha....
The Beav
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shit i thought something was missing when i pulled it back in the shop. thats what i get for leaving the boat outside in santa fe springs
what got jacked? ???
and that steering wheel is a VERY nice touch. i like it a lot.
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thanks im glad I didnt let the beav talk me out of buying it. and yes i did get jacked by the beav
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that sure is nice carpet little brother ;D
ha ha ha
The Beav
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I think it turned out pretty nice. thanks for the carpet brosif
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well now that its comlete hopefully I can get this thing in the water hopefully it runs as good as it looks
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Way to go Brian. You did a great job. Did you fix the trailer? When Dave had it over here it had a broken leaf spring or something. I dont remember :screwy: Lets get em wet boys ;D
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Thanks! And no i didn't, I wasn't aware that the trailer was busted ill have to take a look at it today. I have all new led's for the whole trailer that I need to install before it goes out.
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Bri,
I dont know forsure if it was broken or not. It just sat and rode really low. To the point that it scraped the shit out of my driveway when we were putting the new motor in.
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Well the beav and I are gonna try to get her wet on sat. at elsi if anyones down. Well be there if all goes well with my boat, I started it tonight after work and there was a noise comming from the front of the engine that kind of had a knocking sound. tomarrow I'm gonna take a closer look at it and hopefully its nothing major ;D. Well at least i got my paddle stained and sealed today so maby i'll have to convert it to a row boat for the weekend ;D
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the new carpet
Nice interior, I miss my back seat
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Well I finaly got her wet. The beav and I took it out on monday to Elsinore. Still have a litte work to do and she should be running perfect. It was a little choppy but the boat handled it well and cut right through the chop. We had some timing issues and a little carb trouble :mad: :banghead: :'(. I think I might go with an HEI and maby an 850 demon that my buddy has. Should be back in the water in a couple weeks ;D. Ill have to get the pics off my chicks camera