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Bigblock92557

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Ignition protection....?
« on: July 08, 2009, 02:38:23 PM »
So here it is guys, I have a Mallory series 50 Magnetic Breakless Igniton now i was on my way back to windsor ramp Sunday morning after the 4th and about 400 ft. or so the boat died, no crank no nothing so i checked my breaker and bingo it was popped, now upon reseting it  the engine would turn but no start so i figured i got no spark now after taking her back to the trailer i verify and sure no spark well the ignition module inside went out so i made the stupid mistake of buying another module on Monday without checking for a  short to ground possibly so i installed, ran a test and start the engine, now the boat starts runs for 10 to 15 second and senario all over again breaker main pops.... :banghead: I run my module test to see if it was ok only to find out that i f@#$%@&* it up again  :mad: I know i have to look for a short somewhere  but my question is, is there a way to protect the module i think  a fuse on the hot going to the module would'nt help since it would still get that spike before it would blow, maybe possibly a zener from the hot going in to the negative going to the engine block or a (MOV)Metal Oxide Varistor in place of the zener has any of you guys had this issue and all im trying to accomplish is protecting that module for me and anyone and save myself those $83 dollars not to mention that it could ruin your weekend since it's not your everyday autozone part....  :banghead:
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Marcsrollin

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Re: Ignition protection....?
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2009, 03:37:37 PM »
I work at a part store and this comes up all the time!! Try one of these!!

http://store.atechmotorsports.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MAA%2D29351&N=710+115&autoview=sku
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gregb

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Re: Ignition protection....?
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2009, 03:48:31 PM »
How are the rest of the grounds?  As in block to battery and those connections?   Is the module grounded to the block close to the distributor?  I know you have a magnetic distributor, but I've run a unilite for a long time and every  time I had a module problem it was because the  connections had become corroded, not necessarily the ones for the distributor but the main power and ground, and I use the power filter mentioned above. 
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Bigblock92557

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Re: Ignition protection....?
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2009, 06:51:11 AM »
All my grounds are good but I found the root of the cause, it was the altenator.. :banghead: took it down to autozone to test sure enough over charging and thanks for that link on that CHARGE GUARD i ordered one last night so i should be good to go for this weekend  :thumbup:thanks guys, very very helpful  ;D
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Fixitall909

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Re: Ignition protection....?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2009, 05:29:24 PM »
Throw it away & get a junkyard HEI!Rid of the vac advance & add a curve kit & voila!You will never find a hotter sparking,more accurate ignition system,parts are cheap & readily available.Dont waste your money on MSD or mallory hei's.Coils are weak at best & internal bushings & parts are designed to wear out.1 wire on a breaker,your boat wont know how to act,neither will you!theres always crank triggers if ya got a fat wallet. 
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GT Jets

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Re: Ignition protection....?
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2009, 10:40:20 PM »
Throw it away & get a junkyard HEI!Rid of the vac advance & add a curve kit & voila!You will never find a hotter sparking,more accurate ignition system,parts are cheap & readily available.Dont waste your money on MSD or mallory hei's.Coils are weak at best & internal bushings & parts are designed to wear out.1 wire on a breaker,your boat wont know how to act,neither will you!theres always crank triggers if ya got a fat wallet. 

We have used the GM OEM HEI's as spares, but they are more prone to water issues than any other distributor out there. They do work good, they also look like crap  :thumbdown: . An overcharging alternator can tear all sorts of stuff up, I would consider the problem found ;)

GT
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

IRRebel

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Re: Ignition protection....?
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2009, 12:31:32 AM »
Also, just because I read this late and was processing the MOV idea. Varistors I don't beleive are effective at all on DC circuits, unless they have changed since I was in the electronics industry. It would be a good thought, though.

Ray
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