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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: Beaveretriever on February 18, 2013, 12:43:42 PM

Title: Header spacing
Post by: Beaveretriever on February 18, 2013, 12:43:42 PM
Is there a difference between blower headers and NA headers? I have a set of headers that came with my daytona which came off a blower motor and they are TIGHT!! Any suggestions


Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: berkbryan on February 18, 2013, 12:54:48 PM
No difference try twistys or up swept
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: Beaveretriever on February 18, 2013, 12:57:13 PM
I have a set of upswepts and they wont even fit. One header tube is into the side of the boat.
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: SoCalPSD on February 18, 2013, 01:23:29 PM
Find a good welder and have the primary tubes shortened right off the header flange. Should be able to bring em in atleast an inch and a half and maybe roll em in to gain some more space
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: crewchief22 on February 18, 2013, 09:32:37 PM
Generally a set of true blower headers will have larger primary tubes than standard headers.

I found that the twisties are much wider than the traditional type.  I don't think I could even get a set of twisties in my hull.

On my Bassetts the second tube back sticks out the farthest.  You might look into a set of Rewarders to see if they are a different pattern.
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: ka0tyk on February 18, 2013, 09:40:24 PM
how far from the hull do headers need to be before stuff gets "too hot" ? 
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: GT Jets on February 18, 2013, 10:13:01 PM
how far from the hull do headers need to be before stuff gets "too hot" ?
you need to be at least 3" and run it fat.

Beaver,I have some Rewarder twisties that are fairly tight, I will measure them tomorrow... Or after I finish my Fat Tire...;D
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: GT Jets on February 18, 2013, 10:18:03 PM
OK. So measuring from the flange straight out at a90 degree angle, the Rewarders are 8-1/2" out. In contrast, my Borla's are 10-1/2"...

Lemme know.
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: Beaveretriever on February 18, 2013, 10:33:08 PM
I will measure my headers tomorrow. I think mine are rewarders. I might have to do what keith did but I dont think I even have room for those heat shields.
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on February 18, 2013, 10:50:58 PM
i think you should do logs n snails  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: Beaveretriever on February 18, 2013, 10:54:17 PM
Lol. I might just have too :(
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: SoCalPSD on February 19, 2013, 12:52:59 AM
Or make your own zoomies
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: SoCalPSD on February 19, 2013, 01:16:11 AM
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Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: mash on it on February 19, 2013, 07:41:32 AM
OK. So measuring from the flange straight out at a90 degree angle, the Rewarders are 8-1/2" out. In contrast, my Borla's are 10-1/2"...

Lemme know.

I measured my Bassetts the same way, #5 was 8.25" out. (2.25" primaries)

Daniel
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: RedSnapperSlapper on February 20, 2013, 06:59:02 PM
Buy a set of flanges and well make some at the shop. Or just put a blower on it and go with some zoomies
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: Beaveretriever on February 20, 2013, 07:32:13 PM
Buy a set of flanges and well make some at the shop. Or just put a blower on it and go with some zoomies

Is this project you speak of funded by redsnapperslapper racing? O0
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: Beaveretriever on February 24, 2013, 09:15:53 PM
So I measured my headers and they are over 10". i need to get a narrower set. Im looking to trade for some twisties in the same condition as my headers.

The Beav
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: Second Chance on February 25, 2013, 09:22:17 AM
Hey Dave, we tried twisties on the Daytona. They fit but would have been too close
heat wise. We ended up with straight Rewarders and the closest tube is approx.
3 1/2" from either side of the boat.
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1305.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs541%2FDGS60%2FHeaders002_zps3ff65e6f.jpg&hash=219fab75ad482e194f8ea54276ec2d61728e065b)


We run ours dry and the gunnels get pretty hot. but I do tend to run it pretty hard.  ( on occasion )  ;)

I would like to try a set of zoomies, but have not had the chance to try any for fit yet.
Maybe the laid backs would work well ?
Nick could allways make you up a set of custom stainless headers.  :thumbup:

Looking forward to seeing you guys and that purdy new boat on the water.   :)
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: Beaveretriever on February 25, 2013, 09:58:49 AM
Hey Dave, we tried twisties on the Daytona. They fit but would have been too close
heat wise. We ended up with straight Rewarders and the closest tube is approx.
3 1/2" from either side of the boat.
(https://www.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1305.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs541%2FDGS60%2FHeaders002_zps3ff65e6f.jpg&hash=219fab75ad482e194f8ea54276ec2d61728e065b)


We run ours dry and the gunnels get pretty hot. but I do tend to run it pretty hard.  ( on occasion )  ;)

I would like to try a set of zoomies, but have not had the chance to try any for fit yet.
Maybe the laid backs would work well ?
Nick could allways make you up a set of custom stainless headers.  :thumbup:

Looking forward to seeing you guys and that purdy new boat on the water.   :)

Hey Danny,

My headers i have now are like yours, except mine are off the head about 10" and are about 1" or less to the side of the boat. I have seen a ton of pictures with guys that have twisties and straight ones. i Think that the big problem is the spacing off the head. I would love to run zoomies but then i would need a blower and all that jaz
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: Beaveretriever on March 03, 2013, 08:06:07 PM
Im still looking for some headers. I would like some twisties and would trade my headers for some that are in good condition, since my headers are in great condition and are ceramic coated.
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: SoCalPSD on March 03, 2013, 09:33:57 PM
I dropped a link to some in your other thread
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: Beaveretriever on March 03, 2013, 09:39:33 PM
I dropped a link to some in your other thread

For the zomies. Believe me if I could run them I would. Zoomies make no sense on a NA boat unfortunately
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: SoCalPSD on March 03, 2013, 09:55:51 PM
Then buy a blower
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: Beaveretriever on March 03, 2013, 10:22:45 PM
Lol. One day, one day
Title: Re: Header spacing
Post by: mash on it on March 04, 2013, 07:40:19 AM
Beav,

PM sent

Daniel
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