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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: NastyNate on March 31, 2013, 01:19:45 PM

Title: Headers
Post by: NastyNate on March 31, 2013, 01:19:45 PM
So I am not sure if its possible but one of my projects that I have going on has some Rewarder Headers and the chrome is chipping off. My question is can they be re-chromed. And if they can what would be the best thing to do? Should I send them back to Rewarder (if they would re-chrome) or do I take them to any ole chrome shop?

Thanks
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: crewchief22 on March 31, 2013, 02:13:03 PM
Unless you're dead set on chrome your other choice would be to have them ceramic coated. 

Because of the chemicals used in the chroming process it's getting hard to find chrome shops and the cost is usually more than the part is worth.

Title: Re: Headers
Post by: beerjet on March 31, 2013, 03:13:47 PM
Chrome won't get you home but it'll get you laid!

-beerjet-
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: NastyNate on March 31, 2013, 09:29:05 PM
I'm not dead set on chrome. I just want them to look better then they do. Plus if you happen to touch them its like a damn razor. I have cut myself on them already and I have never had the boat in the water. Lol.

I will check out other options. I was also looking into powder coating. So if anyone has any pictures or advice on that process it would be helpful.

Thanks
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: Second Chance on April 01, 2013, 09:19:03 AM
If you decide to go the coating route, check out Embee Performance Coatings in Santa Ana.  :thumbup:
I'm sure you'll find a lot of their work on the boats around here.

Title: Re: Headers
Post by: jet fever on April 01, 2013, 10:20:38 AM
Powder coating is probly the cheapest route they would strip the chrome off shoot the powder on bake it and through a chemical reaction coat those bad boys. 

Title: Re: Headers
Post by: NastyNate on April 01, 2013, 11:15:09 AM
Ok so I heard back from Rewarder this morning and they told me that the chrome shop will re-chrome them for $350 with no guarantee.  Why would they say No Guarantee?

Does anyone know what it would cost to do Powder?
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: jet fever on April 01, 2013, 11:24:46 AM
Powder coat will be half as much

They most likely don't wanna guarantee some old headers especially not knowing what state the metal is.  If the foundation isn't great no one can promise it'll stay stuck on there.
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: NastyNate on April 02, 2013, 06:02:12 AM
Powder coat will be half as much

They most likely don't wanna guarantee some old headers especially not knowing what state the metal is.  If the foundation isn't great no one can promise it'll stay stuck on there.

I will be looking into the powder coating this week. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: mash on it on April 02, 2013, 10:32:56 AM
See if you can tell the condition of the primary tubes after the water injection. Mine are blued, and thin in this area. I'd hate to see ya have a set of good looking headers, then a blow-out.
Powder (ceramic?) coating is bad-azz :thumbup:

Daniel
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: NastyNate on April 02, 2013, 10:01:47 PM
See if you can tell the condition of the primary tubes after the water injection. Mine are blued, and thin in this area. I'd hate to see ya have a set of good looking headers, then a blow-out.
Powder (ceramic?) coating is bad-azz :thumbup:

Daniel

Thanks Daniel. I didn't even think about that. I guess that's why I ask the experts on here.

I'm going with Powder if everything is ok with the headers.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: Rpmsleek on April 05, 2013, 01:58:30 AM
Not powder coat. Make sure ceramic coated. Unless you want to burn off all the powder.
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: Mothyu812 on April 05, 2013, 06:35:40 AM
Well two days ago I just sent mine back.. Black ceramic coated headers. They look like shit. They looked like barbecue paint.  Scratches all over them and dents!!!! Bran new rewarder headers can't tell you who did it. UPS or a bad pair of headers. By the time I get a new pair I'm just going Crome. Not even out of the box
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: Mothyu812 on April 05, 2013, 06:39:24 AM
Scratches all over the pipes... The good thing is Rewarder Headers stand by their pipes and exchanged them for me.
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: 5150whiteboy on April 05, 2013, 07:33:42 AM
Don't powder coat them either re chrome them at El Monte plating they do great work or u can have young gun coating in Rancho Cucamonga ceramic coat them.


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Title: Re: Headers
Post by: NastyNate on April 05, 2013, 11:12:13 AM
Not powder coat. Make sure ceramic coated. Unless you want to burn off all the powder.

Why have I heard that there is a high temp powder coating that will not burn off.
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: NastyNate on April 05, 2013, 11:13:01 AM
Don't powder coat them either re chrome them at El Monte plating they do great work or u can have young gun coating in Rancho Cucamonga ceramic coat them.


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Have you used El Monte Plating? Are their prices reasonable? I would much rather have them chromed.
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: 5150whiteboy on April 05, 2013, 04:18:14 PM
I have been going to El Monte plating for 8-10 years great work and good pricing


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Title: Re: Headers
Post by: TrollerDave on April 05, 2013, 09:18:23 PM
Don't powder coat them either re chrome them at El Monte plating they do great work or u can have young gun coating in Rancho Cucamonga ceramic coat them.


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When I had mine re-chromed (about 15 years ago), the shop said they had to paint in between the primary tubes.
They said they can't buff or polish in between so they use hi-temp paint.
I'm not familiar with the chroming process, so I don't know how true that is.

Ceramic coating seems to be the preferred way to go because it's supposed to help keep the headers much cooler.
I read somewhere that they can also ceramic the inside of the headers.

I have read good things about Young Guns.
Embee comes highly recommended, Jeff ( goes by Tiki on the Perfomance Boats forums).
 
Thread about powder coating headers
http://www.performanceboats.com/jet-boats/59039-poweder-coated-headers-3.html] [url]http://www.performanceboats.com/jet-boats/59039-poweder-coated-headers-3.html (http://[url)[/url]

Remember we like pics. Let's see what you're dealing with.
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: NoRestraint on April 06, 2013, 11:43:20 AM
High heat stove paint from Kragen 👍haha
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: NastyNate on April 07, 2013, 08:49:33 AM
This is what the look like. 
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: NastyNate on April 07, 2013, 08:51:08 AM
Here is what the tips look like.
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: 5150whiteboy on April 07, 2013, 09:33:47 AM
El Monte will clean all that up before they re chrome them. Any place that does it for you wether it be chrome or ceramic coating should chemically clean them before applying the new finish to them.


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Title: Re: Headers
Post by: NastyNate on April 07, 2013, 10:44:32 AM
El Monte will clean all that up before they re chrome them. Any place that does it for you wether it be chrome or ceramic coating should chemically clean them before applying the new finish to them.


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Thanks for the help. I will be going by there Tuesday.
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: Rpmsleek on April 14, 2013, 12:19:52 PM
There is hi temp powder that wants to act like ceramic coat but it still burns off. Just ceramic coat them and be done. The coating is inside and outside. It helps tubes run cooler too. Lasts 5-7 years , just make sure motor not too lean. 
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: NastyNate on April 16, 2013, 08:07:50 PM
Ok I know I said I was going to chrome my exhaust but I seen these and thought I would ask how this can be.
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: NastyNate on April 17, 2013, 10:26:44 PM
Photo.
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: NastyNate on April 17, 2013, 10:29:56 PM
Photo
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: NastyNate on April 17, 2013, 10:30:25 PM
This POS phone.
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: NastyNate on April 18, 2013, 11:58:51 AM
Finally got the picture uploaded correctly. Im not sure why but I couyldnt upload the photo on the mobile app.

So are these headers powder?
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on April 18, 2013, 12:53:38 PM
rebooting your phone sometimes helps.

I think you can ceramic coat headers any color, I'd call embee in santa ana.

those headers are powder coated....they water jacketed and run cooler so you can powder coat them.
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: Beaveretriever on April 18, 2013, 03:50:24 PM
I have some headers for sale that came off my daytona. Bbc water lines and covers

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Title: Re: Headers
Post by: NastyNate on April 18, 2013, 10:05:28 PM
I have some headers for sale that came off my daytona. Bbc water lines and covers

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Thanks Beaver but I'm running a BBF.
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: Mothyu812 on April 30, 2013, 12:09:14 PM
Here's some 460 I have
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: Mothyu812 on April 30, 2013, 12:10:10 PM
1 more pic
Title: Re: Headers
Post by: NastyNate on May 01, 2013, 01:48:44 PM
rebooting your phone sometimes helps.

I think you can ceramic coat headers any color, I'd call embee in santa ana.

those headers are powder coated....they water jacketed and run cooler so you can powder coat them.

Thanks Brad on sending me to embee...Dropped off my headers today and they will be finished in 2 weeks. The only bad thing is that they have only 5 colors and they are black, white, a chrome look, dark gray and a light gray. So i just went with the chrome look. The good thing is that its only going to cost $250 for them to get ceramic coated. I was actually going to do them white but Jeff at embee said that wasnt a good idea. My boat is Orange and White and thought they would look good white but he said not to. I hope they come out looking good.

If anyone is going to go there and ask for that price make sure you say that you are a performanceboat.com member. That took $50 off the original price of $300.
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