SoCal Jet Boats
Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: IRRebel on May 09, 2011, 09:58:51 PM
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I was talking with Nordie yesterday and we were discussing engines and what I'm doing with the "locust" plague of 460's I have laying around. I pulled three around, apart and on stands this past weekend trying to figure a pretty inexpensive way to put one good one together quickly for my "Yellow Submarine" that my Aunt wants to buy. First one? not so good, rod bearings completely shot (Supposedly a turnkey engine, go figure, but I only paid I think $250 for it.......blocks good, crank can work, heads great,.....but not my point).
Put the second one on the stand, pulled the cast iron intake, WOW! cam looks NEW, no signs of water leakage anywhere, pushrods clean, double valve springs, new valve seals........flip it over and pull off the high dollar Dooley oil pan..........looks good, save for one thing I'll post pics of in a minute. Pulled ALL the rod and main caps (Which I figured on only spot checking), and they are great! Rotating the thing over, piston skirts have no slap marks, minor abrasions, the bores still have the crosshatch on them........perfect for what I am trying to do here!
But there's this pump/pickup dealio.........can someone explain to me why the fock anyone would do this on a fresh build...........
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Ray
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that looks like farmer welding for sure :o
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at least its a tube and not some flexi tube from autozone or something.
my pickup tube is tack welded to the oil pump... but nothing ghetto looking like that...
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all i can say is WOW
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Hey it worked....just looks like ass.
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Hey it worked....just looks like ass.
Amazingly enough, yes it apparently did! I'm not sure how the pump wasn't cavitating like a mother, or maybe it was, who knows, :screwy:
Not gonna use it though. Gonna use a Motorsports rear pan/pickup and new pump on this dealio though. THAT part up there ^^^^ is being retired to the WTF shelf.......
Ray
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Maybe B-rad could use it? j/k relaxe brutha
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I would get a hold of Dooley and get a pickup from them. It will fit the pan. I'm sure the backyard engineering was done for that reason. "Back in the Day"... we had our pickups brazed to the pump (BBC) after making sure it fit the pan correctly. We also doubled the washer under the relief check ball to improve oil pressure. (George Stregal trick).
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I think its one of those Harbor Freight OIL Pumps....
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Nothing wrong with that Ray, put a little JB weld on it to cover up the ugly weld and stick it back in there.
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LOL! :thumbup:
Nah! Ordered a new pickup from Dooley yesterday, $65 after sending pics of what was done to theirs, and a new M84D Pump, $30 ;)
All THAT work to save $30 and destroy the pickup tube in the process????? Really????
Ray
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lol, what a goatf*** !
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Put the second one on the stand, ....flip it over and pull off the high dollar Dooley oil pan..........looks good, save for one thing I'll post pics of in a minute. ... there's this pump/pickup dealio.........can someone explain to me why the fock anyone would do this on a fresh build...........
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Ray
Looks functional to me. Indeed, it's not particularly pretty but I'll take "function" over "form" any day.
That's a Dooley pickup, by the way. It appears to be the one originally intended for an M84BHV front sump pump,
but then someone cut off the pickup's pump mating flange and welded the press-in pump's pickup fitment in its place.
The funny thing is that Dooley already makes a pickup for the press-in pumps, but even though that's the case this
modified one has a nice feature that the Dooley version does not: the support bracket which secures the pickup to
the pump body. It might not be a pretty weld or a detailed bracket, but the pickup sure as hell ain't going anywhere
since it's secured in place. :)
Custom shit rocks 8) , and yes, some custom fab work looks better (or worse) than others. What matters most is
how well it serves its purpose.
LO
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Oh I'm with ya on that Paul! :thumbup: I'm all for custom and ingenuity........
The thing thats hard to see in the pics is that the original piece of pickup tube that goes into the pump is apparently just hammered into the Dooley tube. There is evidence of attempts at brazing it, but simply "pressed" in there.
I get some extra time I'll pull the pickup from the pump, but while it obviously worked......bearings all look like new......I can't help but fear cavitation or breakage issues if I reuse it. Particularly when the correct parts are readily available. ;)
Ray