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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: 2savage4you on May 14, 2009, 04:10:24 PM

Title: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 2savage4you on May 14, 2009, 04:10:24 PM: Im probably gonna catch hell for this but................ My boat runs like shit..

Just when you think you are going in the right direction and find out you should have left it alone..........

Ok i went from having to much pressure and a good running boat to not enough pressure and a boat that runs like shit....

I installed a electric pump, a Holley red to be exact. Im running two tanks into a water fuel seperator and then into my fuel pump and into the carb.
Fuel pump mounted on the transom.
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Fuel line running to carb with a inline filter all -8 fittings and hose.
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My fuel pressure :screwy:
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Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on May 14, 2009, 05:14:55 PM: in my southwind, this is how it is set up....

the 2 lines come out of each tank and go to an electic tank selector switch valve and feeds into one line

then into a fuel/water seperator

then into a electric fule pump

then into the mechanical fuel pump

yes, theres 2 fuel pumps....no sure why....some might say the electric is 'priming' the mechanical ???

i have no pressure regulator or gauge....i have no idea what my fuel pressure is....which does bother me and i plan on replacing the fuel line at the carb with a braided line/AN setup with a NPT port for a gauge to see where im at...and put a regulator in line as well.
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 2savage4you on May 14, 2009, 06:22:41 PM: I called the parts house (checkers) and told them it was not working, they said Holley has a warranty so bring it in and we will exchange it..

I told them im done with Holley and want my money back..........

I got the famous last words, bring it in, we'll see what we can do :sly:

So tomorrow is another day of the 2sav saga 8)

Gonna order a reg and put the old pump back on.....................................
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: GT Jets on May 14, 2009, 06:28:02 PM: 2Sav, I never ever use the Holley Reds for the above reason, I have a Holley Blue on my BBC and it is regulated to 7 PSI, the fuel pressure never fluctuates and it has run pretty good even with a plugged fuel filter (bad fuel when I got it).

The Red pumps are normally only good for about 5# of pressure, perfect for a stock engine in a car, not up to the demands of a hard running overcarbed Big Block IMHO.......

Sorry for your woes...again....still :sly: ;D Sorry, had to ;)

GT
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 2savage4you on May 14, 2009, 06:36:35 PM: Yeah, it was advertised as a 7psi pump, only reason why i got it :screwy:
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: GT Jets on May 14, 2009, 06:44:59 PM: Quote from: 2savage4you on May 14, 2009, 06:36:35 PM
Yeah, it was advertised as a 7psi pump, only reason why i got it :screwy:

AKA, not to exceed 7 PSI ;)

GT
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: HDriderTH on May 14, 2009, 06:57:26 PM: Put yer old pump back on, shitcan the gauge and lets go. ::)
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 2savage4you on May 14, 2009, 07:01:52 PM: Quote from: HDriderTH on May 14, 2009, 06:57:26 PM
Put yer old pump back on, shitcan the gauge and lets go. ::)

Im on it ;)
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: beerjet on May 14, 2009, 07:26:41 PM: Quote from: HDriderTH on May 14, 2009, 06:57:26 PM
Put yer old pump back on, shitcan the gauge and lets go. ::)

Cough , cough ....... :sly:

-beerjet-
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: maddogg20 on May 18, 2009, 02:09:15 PM: on my kona im running 2 tanks into a T fitting to combine them,

Then into an aeromotive fuel filter

Then into the pump,

Then into another aeromotive filter

then into the fuel/water seperator,

then to the regulator,

then to the carb.

I know that it may not make any damn difference at all but maybe put the fuel/water seperator after the pump and see what happens. Its easier for the pump to push fuel thru the seperator then it is for it to suck it thru.
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 2savage4you on May 18, 2009, 03:00:31 PM: Both tanks are ran to a "T"
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then to a water/fuel seperator.
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Pay no attention to the electric POS on the transom... Its been removed ;D
Then to a Summit fuel filter.
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Then into the fuel pump.
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then into a Aeromotive reg....
Still waiting for it to arrive :sly:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=AEI-13205
then into my carb.
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Well aparently there is no carb so use your imagination ;D

I got this man.................................... .........
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 76NORDIC on May 18, 2009, 06:39:20 PM: Hey Steve the whole problem is the dammnn dizzy, its at the wrong end :screwy: :screwy: Sorry I just had to do it ;D ;D ;D Mark
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 2savage4you on May 18, 2009, 06:58:51 PM: Quote from: 76NORDIC on May 18, 2009, 06:39:20 PM
Hey Steve the whole problem is the dammnn dizzy, its at the wrong end :screwy: :screwy: Sorry I just had to do it ;D ;D ;D Mark

Yeah, i know..

But you know whats funny......If we ever get to hang out, that dizzy is all your gonna be seeing :D :D :D :D :D

Silly Ford boys, never gonna learn >:D
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: Nordie on May 18, 2009, 07:04:22 PM: steve its ok! cause if you refer to a chick like you refer to motors what end really is the wrong end ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 76NORDIC on May 18, 2009, 07:08:32 PM: Quote from: 2savage4you on May 18, 2009, 06:58:51 PM
Yeah, i know..

But you know whats funny......If we ever get to hang out, that dizzy is all your gonna be seeing :D :D :D :D :D

Silly Ford boys, never gonna learn >:D
Tooo funny, Steve, there will be a time we get to hang out. :sly: and you will see how us silly Ford guys have learned to show the delussional chebbie boys whats up >:D >:D
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 2savage4you on May 18, 2009, 07:27:30 PM: Quote from: 76NORDIC on May 18, 2009, 07:08:32 PM
Tooo funny, Steve, there will be a time we get to hang out. :sly: and you will see how us silly Ford guys have learned to show the delussional chebbie boys whats up >:D >:D

Sounds like a gooood time , can't wait ;D
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 2savage4you on May 22, 2009, 12:51:01 PM: Well here it is all finished up......
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Im starting to have my doubts about this fuel gauge, it seems like it fluctuates ALOT...

I get it set for 7psi and then it starts dropping to 5 ???

I dont know what im doing wrong but i think im going to replace it for a better gauge
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 76NORDIC on May 22, 2009, 01:54:33 PM: Lookin dammn good Steve ;) Nice work
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: IRRebel on May 22, 2009, 02:14:04 PM: Don't worry about the GD guage, if it runs, and runs at speed, F-it and have fun! You're the only person who over analyzes shit more than me, STOP IT!

Ray
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 2savage4you on May 22, 2009, 03:13:48 PM: Quote from: IRRebel on May 22, 2009, 02:14:04 PM
Don't worry about the GD guage, if it runs, and runs at speed, F-it and have fun! You're the only person who over analyzes shit more than me, STOP IT!

Ray

I over analyze cause thats what i do best ::)

As far as the gauge goes................................... well!!!!!

it seem's to work fine, now that i read the direction for the reg ;D
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: HDriderTH on May 22, 2009, 06:04:00 PM: So.......................are we ready?
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 2savage4you on May 22, 2009, 06:47:43 PM: Quote from: HDriderTH on May 22, 2009, 06:04:00 PM
So.......................are we ready?

No i am replacing the steering , the rotary is sticking so im going with a rack ;)

Just a few more days, besides testing on a weekend like this is just :screwy:

Been hearing boats run up and down the river all day.. and i love it 8)
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: IRRebel on May 22, 2009, 06:57:02 PM: I know you're gonna kill me but.......

How's the floor? >:D

Ray
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 2savage4you on May 22, 2009, 07:43:26 PM: Quote from: IRRebel on May 22, 2009, 06:57:02 PM
I know you're gonna kill me but.......

How's the floor? >:D

Ray

Well i will put it this way, thats gonna be my winter how to thread ;D

It needs to be redone but not till i have a summer of use out of it........
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 76NORDIC on May 22, 2009, 08:43:27 PM: Ya think ya might figure out how to put the dizzy at the right end also during the winter break ??? ??? Just messing with ya again Steve. ;D ;D But ya did one helluva job on that chebby, looks great O0
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: Nordie on May 24, 2009, 10:14:18 AM: steve i cant much more of this! get it wet! looks good
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 2savage4you on May 24, 2009, 10:15:29 AM: Quote from: 76NORDIC on May 22, 2009, 08:43:27 PM
Ya think ya might figure out how to put the dizzy at the right end also during the winter break ??? ??? Just messing with ya again Steve. ;D ;D But ya did one helluva job on that chebby, looks great O0

Thanks again bro ;)

Well she is 100% ready for testing... I finished installing the new rack & pinion this am ;D

Probably put her in the drink tomorrow, or maybe later today :sly:
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 2savage4you on May 24, 2009, 10:16:46 AM: Quote from: Nordie on May 24, 2009, 10:14:18 AM
steve i cant much more of this! get it wet! looks good

If all this was coming out of your pocket, i could understand...

Patience. Im broke and doing the best i can
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: Nordie on May 24, 2009, 10:22:50 AM: trust me i understand!
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: propless on May 24, 2009, 12:36:37 PM: Quote from: 2savage4you on May 24, 2009, 10:15:29 AM

Well she is 100% ready for testing... I finished installing the new rack & pinion this am ;D

Probably put her in the drink tomorrow, or maybe later today :sly:

Say it isn't so. Your 100% done ??? This just cant be true. Are you sure you don't want to take it back a part to resand the bilge or something ? You did install the new loader bearing, right ? And are you sure the steering turns the proper way, some folks around here have issues with that, so I hear. >:D

JK, Steve. Good luck getting it wet, and take lots of pics !!!!
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 2savage4you on May 24, 2009, 12:47:44 PM: Quote from: propless on May 24, 2009, 12:36:37 PM
Say it isn't so. Your 100% done ??? This just cant be true. Are you sure you don't want to take it back a part to resand the bilge or something ? You did install the new loader bearing, right ? And are you sure the steering turns the proper way, some folks around here have issues with that, so I hear. >:D

JK, Steve. Good luck getting it wet, and take lots of pics !!!!

Yes, i think so ;D

Although i did see a leak in the intake, i should probably pull the engine and re'set the intake.... Just because.......

Loader bearing is installed and heavily greased with KY :o

The steering is set up for high speed passes only.......No right turn or left, just straight. So point me in the right direction and im good to go O0

Now why is it everytime i see a thread on "steering" i think of B-rad ???

Pics ???

thats funny cause im filming a documentary :D
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: propless on May 24, 2009, 01:09:35 PM: As long as your going to reset the intake, you might as well set the pump back. After all, "how hard can it be" . ;) ;D
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 76NORDIC on May 24, 2009, 06:55:50 PM: Good boating to ya Steve, and dont forget the PICS >:D
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: IRRebel on May 24, 2009, 07:47:10 PM: Yeah, have a good time with it Steve! Look forward to seeing it in the water!

Ray
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: Nordie on May 24, 2009, 07:50:00 PM: my intake leaks too! just install a second bilge pump!
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 76NORDIC on May 26, 2009, 12:32:24 PM: Well Steve, whats the verdict ??? Inquiring minds want to know ???
Title: Re: I spoke to soon!!!!!!!
Post by: 2savage4you on May 26, 2009, 12:41:18 PM: Quote from: 76NORDIC on May 26, 2009, 12:32:24 PM
Well Steve, whats the verdict ??? Inquiring minds want to know ???

No time to mess with the boat this weekend, maybe later today ???