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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: 76 Bonneville on May 07, 2008, 01:02:10 PM

Title: Legal Headers?
Post by: 76 Bonneville on May 07, 2008, 01:02:10 PM
What makes a set of headers legal? I thought it was all about decibel levels. Do you have to have mufflers, water injection or are any of these things grandfathered in on older boats?
Title: Re: Legal Headers?
Post by: Brad @ SCJB on May 07, 2008, 01:04:59 PM
im gunna run muffs, no h2o. we'll see how far i get this summer.
Title: Re: Legal Headers?
Post by: UNDONE on May 07, 2008, 01:15:04 PM
Most of the california lakes require water.... I know Castaic, Piru, and Pyramid all watch that pretty closely. I've heard Elsinore tends to check every now and then.

Why can't any of these rangers/police/lifeguards/other officials at the lake be power boat enthusiasts???
Title: Re: Legal Headers?
Post by: speedymopars on May 07, 2008, 01:30:56 PM
im gunna run muffs, no h2o. we'll see how far i get this summer.
Brad why don't you have a big dump and just a bleed (really a mist) to the headers through a valve, that way you can turn the water on if you need to if you need to get out of a ticket. 
Title: Re: Legal Headers?
Post by: UNDONE on May 07, 2008, 01:36:23 PM
Just the same way you have your breather tubes coming up to the headers... Just put the water in the bottom and like Speedy said a turn off.
Title: Re: Legal Headers?
Post by: 76 Bonneville on May 07, 2008, 04:45:13 PM
Is the water legally required to help with the decibel levels or safety issues (heat) or both? I only ask becaused it doesn't seem to do either very well.
Title: Re: Legal Headers?
Post by: Ralph Brunt on May 07, 2008, 05:09:32 PM

Why can't any of these rangers/police/lifeguards/other officials at the lake be power boat enthusiasts???
come on colby, you gotta know somebody (jk) ;D
Title: Re: Legal Headers?
Post by: speedymopars on May 07, 2008, 05:45:29 PM
Is the water legally required to help with the decibel levels or safety issues (heat) or both? I only ask becaused it doesn't seem to do either very well.

Heat I would assume. My Duster's headers after a 1/4 mile run are hot enough to melt (and catch fire) anything that touches them. I couldn't imagine headers after 6-7 (or more) MILES at 90-100% load. The water prob keeps them cool enough to still burn you, but not hot enough to start a fire. I have an Infrared temperature gauge, one day we should try it out and see what the temp difference is.
Title: Re: Legal Headers?
Post by: Jason1978nordic on May 08, 2008, 01:47:08 AM
Im in North Idaho and have just got my boat up with a new motor three weeks ago,three weekends in a row I was kicked off of Dworshak resivoir because of noise,I have been thru two sets of baffles and trying to figure out how to quiet it ,water made almost no difference on the decibel meter( 1/2 point) they were using the baffle swap did a little but the baffles that made a difference were very restictive oh well im going out on the snake river this weekend to see what happens .What ever happened to the saying loud pipes save lives????
Title: Re: Legal Headers?
Post by: UNDONE on May 08, 2008, 10:51:29 AM
They save lives but kill the bunnie's ears!

Speaking of which Ralph, when did you wanna head down to the shop?
Title: Re: Legal Headers?
Post by: SLCKREG on May 08, 2008, 12:38:32 PM
I have a brochure with Utah's laws, and it states that all motorboats must be equiped with a muffler system. Boats manuf. before 1993 may not exceed 90 decibles, and boats made after jan. 1 1993 can't exceed 88 decibles. Bla bla bla and then it states that cut outs, or muffler bypass systems are illegal. Oddly it says nothing at all about water. I assume these laws vary state to state.
Title: Re: Legal Headers?
Post by: UNDONE on May 09, 2008, 07:44:04 AM
Sometimes they're specifically a lake or County requirement...
Title: Re: Legal Headers?
Post by: 76 Bonneville on May 09, 2008, 10:42:44 AM
I just bought a set of dry Hooker headers, and now I'm not sure if I want to use them. I may just cut the bells off of the Gil headers and have them powdered.
Title: Re: Legal Headers?
Post by: UNDONE on May 09, 2008, 10:46:52 AM
I had a set of hookers on my boat. Jim at rewarder took care of the water lines and tapping for a really good price... I won't give specifics because I don't know what he's charging now. I will tell you it was under 200 for all...
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