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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: enginedoctor on September 15, 2009, 03:50:24 PM

Title: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: enginedoctor on September 15, 2009, 03:50:24 PM
Latest racing engine build  :   CHRYSLER   542 Hemi

Pic's to follow..   Goal is 850bhp on pump gas ,  naturally aspirated  :thumbup:  no nitrous  :thumbdown:

Boat should book  ;D
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: SnoC653 on September 15, 2009, 04:08:52 PM
Sounds like a respectable goal.  I'm shooting for the same HP numbers from a 512 RB block on race gas.  Make sure you point out any little Mopar tricks to make them last longer.  Always eager to learn. 
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: pw_Tony on September 15, 2009, 04:17:41 PM
Hell yea! I'm guessing the word "Indy" is in your future  ;D

Is it someone on the boards?
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: enginedoctor on September 15, 2009, 04:20:02 PM
Hell yea! I'm guessing the word "Indy" is in your future  ;D

Is it someone on the boards?

hey Tony... Indy  huh?   Sht if so please join me! :thumbup:

And no... Just an old customer ;D
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: pw_Tony on September 15, 2009, 04:28:39 PM
http://www.indyheads.com/

Get some pics!
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: enginedoctor on September 15, 2009, 04:47:37 PM
Thank's Tony  ...!
Great info :)
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: enginedoctor on September 17, 2009, 04:20:49 PM
Hemi update  :

Here is why u should  not over rev. your power plant   :screwy:

This guy spends  $20 K.  on this  thing.... built by a famous builder with a good rep.   Anyhay this is what followed.

1. This virtually had one day of running time.
2.  #5 piston absolutely destroyed.... # 5 intake valve snapped off at the keeper groove location.

3. The cause of failure....  Over rev'd, piston up and hits valve,then tears the keeper/valve apart ...duh  :sly:

  20K...down the drain.



Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: Ralph Brunt on September 17, 2009, 05:37:39 PM
or were the parts in the motor not worthy of the rpm ???
titanium valves, retainers ???
pro stock reving 10k plus, but, built for it
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: electrowoman on September 17, 2009, 06:03:18 PM
Why wasn't the insurance policy turned on?   REV LIMITER   :banghead:
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: pw_Tony on September 17, 2009, 06:09:12 PM
A guy the other week did that, had a stout BBC, with a panther pump.... didn't know when to lift the throttle... 8000 rpm is crazy  :screwy:
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: enginedoctor on September 17, 2009, 06:29:33 PM
or were the parts in the motor not worthy of the rpm ???
titanium valves, retainers ???
pro stock reving 10k plus, but, built for it

Ya guy's....Undesireable parts/ no rev. limiter :thumbdown :thumbdown
It's ok>....Me fix it   :)
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: enginedoctor on September 17, 2009, 06:31:09 PM
http://www.indyheads.com/

Get some pics!

Ralph has my camera  :sly:
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: SnoC653 on September 17, 2009, 09:03:08 PM
so doc are you a mopar type guy or just building this one because that's what the customer wants?
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: 76NORDIC on September 17, 2009, 09:33:53 PM
Nah hes a guy that will build them all :thumbup:
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: speedymopars on September 18, 2009, 09:32:24 PM
Huh?
There must have been valve float going on. The Hemi bottom end is WAYYYY stronger that anything else out there. Because a hemi has the valves opening into each other on opposing sides of the engine, any valve float will kill it. Don't skimp on the valve springs.
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: enginedoctor on September 19, 2009, 05:08:55 PM
Huh?
There must have been valve float going on. The Hemi bottom end is WAYYYY stronger that anything else out there. Because a hemi has the valves opening into each other on opposing sides of the engine, any valve float will kill it. Don't skimp on the valve springs.

Valve  Springs checked out  Ok..... Is valve float / Over revving not the same thing   ;D

Let me know  your up onion   :thumbup:
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: speedymopars on September 19, 2009, 08:11:52 PM
Over reving can also snap parts unrelated to the valvetrain.  ;D

Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: enginedoctor on September 20, 2009, 02:04:39 PM
Over reving can also snap parts unrelated to the valvetrain.  ;D



I agree....And it is always ugly  >:D
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: 429heads on September 20, 2009, 08:08:27 PM
Were they Manley valves from U.S.A or the stuff from Argentinean, Bead lock or square lock,

or whos valves? Did it break at top of lock grove or bottom, We just bent five
valves 8500 alc 410 sbc broke two rods took block out valves bent but didnt break
or kill the head these were 49cc heads 2.050 valves I.M.C.A Mod car  20m KS
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: enginedoctor on September 20, 2009, 08:17:33 PM
They broke at the bottom of lock grooves & they were Manley.
OVER REV. PERIOD .
Can't name the cyl. head manufacturer for obvious reasons  :sly:


By the way ... I am from  ARGENTINA  :screwy:
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: 429heads on September 20, 2009, 08:24:58 PM
You do no that Manley valves are now made in Argentina good or not I dont no
 but a lot valves were made down there in years past :banghead:
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: enginedoctor on September 20, 2009, 09:06:16 PM
You do no that Manley valves are now made in Argentina good or not I dont no
 but a lot valves were made down there in years past :banghead:

Why are you upset... I did not make the valves" Hot Shot "  :thumbdown:

From an engineering standpoint....  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Monster " 542 cid" Hemi in the Work's
Post by: enginedoctor on September 22, 2009, 07:48:00 PM
This Guy was running a blower on this thing too.... :sly: (He never mentioned that till today  871 )

Engine failure caused by :

1.  Fuel Wash

2. Valve Float

at least all the parts were shined  by gasoline :screwy:
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