SoCal Jet Boats

Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: 82daytona on August 18, 2007, 10:42:55 AM

Title: Motor trouble please help
Post by: 82daytona on August 18, 2007, 10:42:55 AM
So we tried to turn the motor by hand and nothing.We then took the heads off as wells the spark plugs to see if anything was inside the motor and still nothing,we even lubed the cylinders to try and break it free but still nothing now its to the point to where if we do get it to break free we are scared that it will gouge the cylinder walls someone pleas help  ???
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: Marcsrollin on August 18, 2007, 10:45:48 AM
Almost sounds like a busted crank! Did this happen while the motor was running or did it just sit a long time?
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: Ralph Brunt on August 18, 2007, 11:04:25 AM
does pump spin free.
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: Marcsrollin on August 18, 2007, 11:07:40 AM
if the pump spins free , I'd pull the oil pan before I tried to force it anymore.
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: 82daytona on August 18, 2007, 11:08:04 AM
The motor is 100% brand new and sat for 6 to 8 months and the pump does spin free??? :-\
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: 82daytona on August 18, 2007, 11:08:47 AM
What do we do after we pu;; the oil pan ?
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: Marcsrollin on August 18, 2007, 11:11:21 AM
Just look around and do a quick inspect to make sure there is nothing weged in there to stop it from turning.
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: HDriderTH on August 18, 2007, 12:16:24 PM
flywheel boltss too long?
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: 82daytona on August 18, 2007, 12:32:56 PM
We checked the flywheel bolts also and its not that so after talking to a few people weve decided to take it back to the guy that built it rather than just keep tearing it apart and then he says we made the problem so its none of the obvious hopefully its nothing major so hopefully the guy stands behind his work the guy i bought this project from spent about 12k with this guy so everyone please pray for my motor  ;D
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: HDriderTH on August 18, 2007, 12:38:56 PM
prolly sumpthin really stupid, dont worry...buy my flatty
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: 82daytona on August 18, 2007, 12:45:04 PM
Your flatty what ?
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: Desert Rat on August 18, 2007, 12:57:11 PM
i've got my motor back before with oversize bearings on a stock crank. I did all the same stuff trying to figure out why it wouldn't spin.
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: The Chaz on August 18, 2007, 01:57:08 PM
i've got my motor back before with oversize bearings on a stock crank. I did all the same stuff trying to figure out why it wouldn't spin.

That was my 1st thought, if the builder will cover his work then of course let him do it, if not check the bearing clearances with Plastigauge
http://jensenhealey.com/tech/plastigauge/how-to-use-plastigauge.html (http://jensenhealey.com/tech/plastigauge/how-to-use-plastigauge.html)
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: 2savage4you on August 18, 2007, 04:30:42 PM
The motor is 100% brand new and sat for 6 to 8 months and the pump does spin free??? :-\


 Believe it or not, "humidity" will cause the crank/ rod bearings to rust if so it will lock up. Depending on what rings you have they could rust to the cylinder, did you use a light weight oil in the cylinders?  the lighter the better, my new 454 project was locked up so i filled each cylinder with tranny fluid and the next morning she was loose as a goose ;D Did it have oil in the pan? what did the oil look like? How /where was it stored?

 Just a thought, Good luck.


2sav
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: HDriderTH on August 18, 2007, 06:44:07 PM
Your flatty what ?

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/boa/400244897.html
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: 82daytona on August 18, 2007, 07:46:14 PM
nice flatty at this point i wish i would have bought aa turn key boat like that and i would have saved a lot of money to,anyways the motor was stored in so. cal i dont think it had oil in due to the fact that it had never been started,as far as the bearings go im not sure what the motor has this is my first jet boat and not really sure what it is i have
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: hotrod56cars on August 19, 2007, 10:31:19 AM
http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/boa/400244897.html

 :'(
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: TIMINATOR on August 19, 2007, 12:55:32 PM
How did you come into this deal? That will decide where to go with it. Lets have the background info.  TIMINATOR
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: 82daytona on August 19, 2007, 02:08:34 PM
well thanks everyone for the help we found the problem,it was some sort of pin with the flywheel bolts that was pressed in to far  ::)
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: FORKEDUP on August 20, 2007, 10:30:26 AM
at least it was minor :)
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: 82daytona on August 20, 2007, 12:59:54 PM
yeah no shit im itching to put that thing in the water so if all goes well less than a month i just bought some cars today so were getting close
Title: Re: Motor trouble please help
Post by: FORKEDUP on August 20, 2007, 02:23:44 PM
sounds like we are working on the same timeline, keep me posed on your progress, and when done we will have to hook up.  i am going to get some updated pics this evening and start a project thread so i can document my progress.  by the way very good choice in boats ;D
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